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Funny, if you are not underneath. Not so funny otherwise. :biggrin:
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johnpcapitalist wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:54 am :snippity:

I know nothing of Australian politics or of parliamentary systems in general, but what the hell was he thinking?
Why aspire to be like Jesus, when I could aspire to be like God?
Is there precedent in Australian or other countries' politics for something like this?
Sure. Augustus Caesar maybe? Genghis Khan? Ms. Schicklegruber's son? Uncle Joe? Those are all go to callouts, and low hanging fruit, but maybe Cromwell is the closest. But none did it in secret.
Even if you don't understand the maneuvering, how could he possibly not imagine that when this was discovered (as it inevitably would be), that it would blow up massively?
I have never heard anyone, even his closest admirers, accuse Scott Morrison of having an imagination.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:52 am Wow!!!! Love that movie, btw.
You and me both. I love this movie and recommend if anyone here hasn't seen it give it a go, I think most people who see it really enjoy it. It's a fun, clean, cute, and funny romp. I don't recall any foul language or anything that would be offensive to anyone. Younger kids may not get some of the humor, but it's suitable for family. Stricly Ballroom is the name of the movie, I think it's way up in the thread by now.
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Whoo hoo...

Sir Lunch-a-lot gets more convictions to add to his resume. :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/ ... /101793168

Former NSW Labor minister Ian Macdonald found guilty of corruptly awarding mining licence

In a briefing note from the previous year, the Department of Primary Industries advised against the direct allocation of a licence and instead recommended a competitive tender process.

The verdict is the result of a retrial in front of a judge alone, after an appeal court found the jury in the first trial was misdirected.

Macdonald is already behind bars, having been convicted in a separate matter concerning a coal licence in Bylong Valley.
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And from the other side of the country and political spectrum

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-20/ ... /101790688

Former WA MP Brian Ellis sentenced after hindering Corruption and Crime Commission investigation

A "shameful" former WA politician has been given a 10-month suspended jail term and fined $20,000 for hindering a corruption investigation, which found he had improperly used taxpayer funds to pay for personal expenses, including visits to a strip club and Japanese bath house.

Key points:
The probe found Ellis used taxpayers' money for personal expenses
He hindered the investigation by throwing his phone into the ocean
He also lied under oath about what he had done with the phone

Brian Ellis, a member of Western Australia's Legislative Council for a decade, pleaded guilty to two charges arising from the secret 2019 Corruption and Crime Commission (CCC) investigation into the misuse of electoral allowances.
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The recent scare where searchers were looking for this gadget for days after report of its loss
Tiny radioactive capsule lost in Australian outback found by side of 1,400km stretch of road
Coin-sized radioactive device, missing for more than two weeks in WA, posed a significant public health risk

Henry Belot
Wed 1 Feb 2023 08.10 GMT

A tiny radioactive capsule that was lost in the Australian outback for more than two weeks and posed a “significant public health risk” has been found by the side of the road.

The 8mm by 6mm capsule, which fell from a secure device on a truck that was travelling from a Rio Tinto mine site in the Pilbara region of Western Australia to Perth, was found south of the town of Newman.

The Australian defence force is now verifying the small radioactive device by its serial number. It is being stored at a secure location in Newman, before being transported to Perth on Thursday, inside a lead container to shield people from radiation.

The radioactive capsule was part of a gauge used to measure the density of iron ore feed at the mine in the state’s remote Kimberley region.

A 20-metre exclusion zone has been established where the device was found, just a short distance from where it began its 1,400km journey to Perth. Authorities will now survey the area for any contamination.

WA’s chief health officer, Andrew Robertson, said an investigation had been launched to determine how the device was lost. If negligence is proved then charges may be laid.

“I have responsibility as the chair of the radiological council to actually investigate and if required, prosecute offences under the act,” Robertson said.

“We have a number of authorised officers who are doing that. Our radiation health branch, within the Department of Health, is conducting that investigation and they will be looking at all aspects of this event.”

Robertson said he was not aware of any injuries or people exposed to radiation.

“It does not appear the device has moved,” he said. “It appears to have fallen off the truck and landed by the side of the road. It is remote enough that it is not near any major community.”




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RTH10260 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:53 am The recent scare where searchers were looking for this gadget for days after report of its loss
Tiny radioactive capsule lost in Australian outback found by side of 1,400km stretch of road
Coin-sized radioactive device, missing for more than two weeks in WA, posed a significant public health risk

Henry Belot
Wed 1 Feb 2023 08.10 GMT

A tiny radioactive capsule that was lost in the Australian outback for more than two weeks and posed a “significant public health risk” has been found by the side of the road.

The 8mm by 6mm capsule, which fell from a secure device on a truck that was travelling from a Rio Tinto mine site in the Pilbara region of Western Australia to Perth, was found south of the town of Newman.

The Australian defence force is now verifying the small radioactive device by its serial number. It is being stored at a secure location in Newman, before being transported to Perth on Thursday, inside a lead container to shield people from radiation.

The radioactive capsule was part of a gauge used to measure the density of iron ore feed at the mine in the state’s remote Kimberley region.

A 20-metre exclusion zone has been established where the device was found, just a short distance from where it began its 1,400km journey to Perth. Authorities will now survey the area for any contamination.

WA’s chief health officer, Andrew Robertson, said an investigation had been launched to determine how the device was lost. If negligence is proved then charges may be laid.

“I have responsibility as the chair of the radiological council to actually investigate and if required, prosecute offences under the act,” Robertson said.

“We have a number of authorised officers who are doing that. Our radiation health branch, within the Department of Health, is conducting that investigation and they will be looking at all aspects of this event.”

Robertson said he was not aware of any injuries or people exposed to radiation.

“It does not appear the device has moved,” he said. “It appears to have fallen off the truck and landed by the side of the road. It is remote enough that it is not near any major community.”




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We were just talking a out this at cards last night.

What if it had got lodged in the tread of a passing truck? It could have gone anywhere.
What if an emu picked it up and swallowed it? We could have had a 1950's style "attack of the 50 foot emus" live action movie going on.
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keith wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:22 pm We were just talking a out this at cards last night.

What if it had got lodged in the tread of a passing truck? It could have gone anywhere.
What if an emu picked it up and swallowed it? We could have had a 1950's style "attack of the 50 foot emus" live action movie going on.
Or gotten lost where a cassowary could have gotten it.
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Indigenous history instead of King Charles
Government backs Reserve Bank decision to replace Queen Elizabeth II’s portrait with design ‘honouring culture and history of First Australians’

Jordyn Beazley
Thu 2 Feb 2023 02.50 GMT

King Charles III will not feature on Australia’s $5 note after a decision by the Reserve Bank to replace Queen Elizabeth II’s portrait with a design “that honours the culture and history of the First Australians”.

With the Australian government backing the decision, the move to balk at the presumed tradition of having Australia’s head of state on the note has already generated fierce debate.

Australia’s opposition leader, Peter Dutton, weighed in shortly after the announcement on Thursday on Sydney radio station 2GB, saying the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, would “have been central” to not placing King Charles on the note and should “own” the decision.

“I think it’s another attack on our systems, on our society and our institutions,” he said.

Once the change is made, there will be no portraits of UK monarchs on any current Australian banknote.

The Australian Monarchist League also disapproved, accusing Albanese – who is a long time supporter of Australia becoming a republic – of “trouncing Australian democracy”.

“It is virtually neo-communism in action,” said Philip Benwell, chair of the league.

However, Australian Greens party senator and Gunnai, Gunditjmara and Djab Wurrung woman Lidia Thorpe called the change a “massive win for the grassroots, First Nations people who have been fighting to decolonise this country”.

Thorpe has previously called for the Aboriginal actor and activist Uncle Jack Charles, who died in September, to feature on the note.



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pipistrelle wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:14 am
keith wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:22 pm We were just talking a out this at cards last night.

What if it had got lodged in the tread of a passing truck? It could have gone anywhere.
What if an emu picked it up and swallowed it? We could have had a 1950's style "attack of the 50 foot emus" live action movie going on.
Or gotten lost where a cassowary could have gotten it.
No doubt. But it really would have to have travelled to get to cassowary country.

Cassowaries live in Queensland (and New Guinea and a few other islands) but not Western Australia where the thing was lost.

Emus, on the other hand, are everywhere in Oz
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RTH10260 wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:43 am
Indigenous history instead of King Charles
:snippity:

Thorpe has previously called for the Aboriginal actor and activist Uncle Jack Charles, who died in September, to feature on the note.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ng-charles
Uncle Jack would be an outstanding choice in my opinion.

But it is going to take a couple years to finalize the design. I think it would be fine to do a simple swap, Chuck for Brenda in the meantime, to honor the coronation. The low number issued in the meantime would become collectables.

In any case, he won't be snubbed altogether. He will be on all the coins.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-16/ ... /101981264

A new visa will allow up to 3,000 people from the Pacific region to migrate to Australia as permanent residents each year, under a scheme modelled on a New Zealand immigration program.

Key points:
The then-opposition revealed plans for the visa in April 2022 as part of a wider scheme to deepen ties with the Pacific
On Thursday, the bill for the new visa will reportedly be introduced to parliament
If passed, the 3,000 successful applicants can bring partners and dependent children

The Pacific Engagement Visa has a two-step application process, under which applicants must first register in a ballot and pay a fee of $25.

"In the second stage, applicants selected by the ballot will be able to then apply for the visa," the government said in a statement.

Applicants will need to have a formal job offer with an employer in Australia, be aged between between 18 and 45 years, and satisfy basic English language and health and character requirements, it said.

"Applicants can include their partners and dependent children in their application," the statement said.

The government aims to have the new visa up and running by July.
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Me: Just nipping down to the shops for a bite...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-20/ ... /101997050

A highly venomous snake that hitched a ride in the car of an unsuspecting driver has been caught in Adelaide's largest shopping centre — after being on the loose for two days.

Key points:
The red-bellied black snake was seen by a customer at Adelaide's largest shopping centre
The snake was found and safely captured two days later
It is believed the venomous reptile hitched a ride with a motorist who did not know the snake was in their car

(ps when we go away for more than a week the snakes move back closer to the house, the other week we came home to a red-belly black by the porch and a green tree snake on the garden path.)
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Dave from down under: (ps when we go away for more than a week the snakes move back closer to the house, the other week we came home to a red-belly black by the porch and a green tree snake on the garden path.)
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https://animalstime.com/red-belly-black-snake-facts/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-bellied_black_snake
The red-bellied black snake (Pseudechis porphyriacus) is a species of venomous snake in the family Elapidae, indigenous to Australia. Originally described by George Shaw in 1794 as a species new to science, it is one of eastern Australia's most commonly encountered snakes. Averaging around 1.25 m (4 ft 1 in) in length, it has glossy black upperparts, bright red or orange flanks, and a pink or dull red belly. It is not aggressive and generally retreats from human encounters, but can attack if provoked. Although its venom can cause significant illness, no deaths have been recorded from its bite, which is less venomous than other Australian elapid snakes. The venom contains neurotoxins, myotoxins, and coagulants and has haemolytic properties. Victims can also lose their sense of smell.
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https://backyardbuddies.org.au/backyard ... tree-snake
Green Tree Snake – the full story
The Green or Common Tree Snake is one of the most commonly seen snakes in suburban backyards, parks, and even inner city gardens. It lives in northern and eastern Australia.

Green Tree Snakes have no fangs and no venom. They are very reluctant to bite and would rather slither away. If provoked, a Green Tree Snake will rise up, inflate its throat and body, and make a stink from its anal glands – so best not to get too close.

Look out for Green Tree Snakes sunbathing on rocks, windowsills, fences, on outdoor furniture, climbing on the beams or railings of the veranda, pergola, shed or garage. They are fast climbers that spend most of their time up in the trees. They are usually active during the day and come down to the ground to hunt.

Mainly active during the day, Green Tree Snakes eat frogs, skinks, geckos, lizards, reptile eggs, small mammals, stranded tadpoles and fish, and even the occasional water skink if they can catch them. They are active hunters and sniff out their prey as they probe leaves and loose soil with their heads.

Green Tree Snakes are very inquisitive and will have a good look at you if you spot it in the garden. They have large eyes and keen eyesight. It can camouflage itself amongst tree branches where it often looks like a branch, but also amongst leaves, plants and leaf litter. Its colour varies from grey to olive-green in NSW and most of QLD, dark brown, black or blue in northern QLD, golden yellow with a bluish head in the NT. The skin between the scales is light blue.

At night the Green Tree Snake sleeps in tree hollows, rock crevices, narrow caves or abandoned buildings. During winter, groups of snakes congregate together to conserve heat.
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If provoked, a Green Tree Snake will rise up, inflate its throat and body, and make a stink from its anal glands ...
Copycat. :fingerwag:
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From TRL's data dump:
The red-bellied black snake … venom contains neurotoxins, myotoxins, and coagulants and has haemolytic properties.
So it fries your nerves, wrecks you muscles, clots your blood and splats your blood cells. Mm.
Victims can also lose their sense of smell.
If they're still alive to sniff anything!
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War Crimes should be pursued - regardless of nationality

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-20/ ... /102119554

SAS veteran Oliver Schulz arrested as part of war crimes investigation into killing of Afghan man in field


Police have arrested a decorated former SAS soldier following a years-long investigation into alleged Australian war crimes in Afghanistan.

Former trooper Oliver Schulz, 41, was shown in an ABC Investigations-Four Corners story in 2020 shooting an Afghan man in a wheat field in Uruzgan Province in southern Afghanistan.

The ABC understands Mr Schulz was arrested this morning by the Australian Federal Police (AFP) in the Goulburn area, in the New South Wales Southern Tablelands.

He is expected to be charged today over the 2012 killing.

The investigation was carried out by the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI), the body set up to probe alleged war crimes following an Inspector-General of the Australian Defence Force inquiry led by Paul Brereton, an Army Reserve major general and NSW Supreme Court judge.

ABC Investigations understands that a dedicated OSI team made up of homicide detectives and an intelligence officer examined the killing for more than two years.

The ABC understands NSW Police assisted on today's operation.

The AFP has declined to comment.

An AFP spokesman told the ABC the AFP and OSI do not comment on operational matters, as a matter of longstanding practice.
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I'm surprised this story hasn't cropped up here yet (maybe FB1.0? - its been going on long enough).

Background:
Wikipedia: Adass Israel School sex abuse scandal
The Adass Israel School sex abuse scandal (Hebrew: פרשת מלכה לייפר, lit. 'the Malka Leifer scandal/affair'[1]) is a criminal case and extradition dispute regarding allegations of child sex abuse at a Jewish religious school in Melbourne, Australia. A former principal, Malka Leifer, will stand trial in 2022 on 70 sex offence charges laid by Victoria Police, with accusations from at least eight alleged victims.[2][3][4][5][6] Leifer, a dual Israeli-Australian citizen,[7] fled under suspicious circumstances shortly before a warrant could be issued, and remained in Israel from 2008 until January 2021, under varying levels of police and court supervision, pending the resolution of her extradition case.[8] Leifer's trial will not address other alleged sex crimes in Israel and the West Bank because they did not occur in Australia.[4][5]

The degree of freedom she enjoyed in Israel prompted worldwide media coverage and criticism of Israel's justice system;[9][10] activist Manny Waks described the case as "a farce"[11] and "an embarrassment".[12] Leifer lived an apparently normal life for some time in the Israeli settlement of Emmanuel, despite a court ruling that she was mentally unfit for proceedings.[13][14] She was eventually rearrested after media and police scrutiny of her behavior,[9] but continued to evade extradition, with more than 70 court hearings and appeals requested by her legal team, and delays due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[15] In January 2021, after more than 13 years as a fugitive, Leifer was extradited to Australia; she appeared before a Melbourne judge via video link in April 2021, her first appearance in Australian court, and remains jailed without bond as of 2021.
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The Adass Israel Congregation is a Jewish group in Melbourne that traces its origins to a split in the Elwood Shule in the early 1940s; some of its early members were boys and men who had been sent to Australia by the British on the infamous Dunera in 1941.[22][23] The community's synagogue is in Ripponlea, and its school and chevra kadisha (Jewish funeral society) are located in nearby East St Kilda and Elsternwick.

The community is "ultra-Orthodox".[7][24] Children are raised without television, Internet access, or radio, but have access to Jewish newspapers and magazines that cover worldly matters.[7] After the age of eight, boys and girls are kept entirely separate outside family homes, and the stories they are told never involve friendships between boys and girls. There is no sex education in schools of the community, but before marriage the bride and groom attend educational classes to discuss sex and other topics about marriage. The rabbi of the community acts as the ultimate authority for members.
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In 2007, a woman in Israel, Dassi Erlich,[note 1] sought counseling when she started to have recurrent nightmares and anxiety about events that had taken place at Adass Israel School when she was in high school.[8][7] These incidents allegedly happened at the hands of Leifer, the principal of the school.
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A meeting was arranged with the president and some members of the school board. Leifer was telephoned at the meeting and denied the allegations, saying: "You have destroyed my reputation. I'm not going to stand for this."[7] On the evening that the allegations came to light, in March 2008, the wife of a school board member rang a travel agent to say a flight to Israel was needed urgently. The school arranged, paid for, and booked tickets for Leifer and four of her eight children on an aircraft that departed at 1:20 am the same night, without having informed the police.
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Leifer's husband, Rabbi Yaakov Yosef (Jacob) Leifer, fled to Israel with her, where he now heads the small Chust Hassidic community in Immanuel where he and his wife had been living since 2016, and where she was arrested.[29] In June 2018, Immanuel was cited as a "haven for paedophiles" by The Sydney Morning Herald, which exposed further alleged child sexual abuse there by Leifer, committed "without consequence."[5] The father of Rabbi Leifer and former leader of the Khust Hasidic, Grand Rabbi Baruch Pinchas Leifer, was arrested, in January 2022, and charged with historical sexual abuse of a minor to whom he is related, and a then 18 year-old male; he denies the charges, which are before Jerusalem Magistrate Courts.
OK, so its a long story and I've already copied too much, so read the Wikipedia article - there is lots more.

TL;DR: Liefer fought extradition in Israel, claiming mental illness, etc. etc. etc. Over 70 court hearings over the years.

Finally brought back to Australia for trial, the jury is out for its deliberations now.

Malka Leifer: jury retires to determine fate of former Melbourne principal
Jurors have begun deliberating over allegations former ultra-Orthodox Jewish principal Malka Leifer sexually abused three vulnerable students.

After nearly six weeks of evidence and addresses from lawyers, 12 jurors retired to consider their verdicts on Wednesday afternoon.

Leifer is facing 27 charges over the alleged abuse of sisters Nicole Meyer, Dassi Erlich and Elly Sapper when she was head of religion and principal of the Adass Israel school in Melbourne’s east between 2003 and 2007.
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I remember the story, just checked TFB1.0 but cannot find a reference. Maybe I only ready about it on the web without posting. Somehow the last thing I remember the extradiction proceedings initiated in Israel.
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There are some more details in this news articles at

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-22/ ... /102127144

The jury in the Malka Leifer child sex abuse trial has retired to consider its verdict, after hearing evidence over a six-week period.

Warning: This story contains details of allegations of sexual abuse.

Key points:

The jury in the Malka Leifer trial has retired to consider the 27 charges levelled against the former principal
Two charges were previously dropped during the six week trial
Mrs Leifer has maintained her innocence and pleaded not guilty to all charges

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