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From what I've heard, as in don't know where, insurance is going to be a real mess there. But DeathSantis will be okay until the election. It will take many more months before people realize how bad that situation will be.
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AndyinPA wrote: Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:59 pm From what I've heard, as in don't know where, insurance is going to be a real mess there. But DeathSantis will be okay until the election. It will take many more months before people realize how bad that situation will be.
Insurance was already very hard to get, in general you could usually renew your policy, for multiples of what it used to cost, but getting a new policy is an ordeal, more than a few companies have exited the market.
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Ian may bankrupt some FL insurance companies. Even those who have insurance may not be able to collect any money.

The election is just over a month away. Between now and then there will be endless bad news about the storm recovery.

Some people in Texas still have not received promised help following Harvey.
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Who here doubts that DeSantis would screw up recovery for 6 weeks so he can say 'The Federal Government is screwing you"?
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Am I wrong in thinking the best thing that could happen right now is for the Federal presence to be seen but to be deferring to the Governor. And to refer to him by name rather than just by office when asked. "Until Governor DeSantis makes a formal request, the law limits what we can do...." "Governor DeSantis has asked us to make this other thing a priority..." and so on?
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I don't remember where I read it but an initial announcement from the WH said that they had provided everything that the Florida government asked for. They were also talking to the mayors, if available.

I thought that was interesting language. Their SOP may be to follow the requests of the Gov but I don't remember them stating it that way. It sounds like they were working to head off the blame game from DeSantis.
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Great column. Much more at link.
Tread on us, please. Florida needs a new socialism-friendly slogan after Hurricane Ian

Dear America:

Please tread on Florida.

I know. I know. This isn’t the message you’ve been hearing from us on the $25 T-shirts for sale on the Gov. Ron DeSantis re-election site.

But we here in Florida are temporarily suspending all criticisms of federal handouts and any other form of socialism. And as for those “Don’t Tread on Florida” T-shirts, ball caps and flags, we’re not in a go-it-alone mood anymore.

Maybe we could just unload that outdated-messaged merchandise as rags for the relief workers from other states who will come here to help us in our time of need.

You see, Hurricane Ian has temporarily washed away our bootstraps with the storm surge. And now we can’t pull them up on our own.

So, what we really need right now is to rejoin the United States of America so we can rely on the all-for-one ethos of this country, an ethos we’ve suddenly become fond of.

We’re through posturing ourselves as a breakaway state operating in defiance of the federal government.

Sure, we’ve acted that way a lot recently, refusing to participate in national health care expansions, and being the only state to refuse submitting a plan for using federal relief dollars for schools, and pre-ordering COVID-19 vaccinations for children.

Freedom, shmeedom. We’ve suddenly outgrown that pablum for the feeble-minded. Please send FEMA.
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Imagine how pissed DeSantis is going to be when it finally dawns on him how many immigrants are going to come into the state as workers to fix all the damage. He may need to fly some back from Martha's Vineyard.
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Tucker Carlson questioned DeSantis about whether the Biden administration would come through for Florida in the wake of Hurricane Ian. The Governor affirmed he is “cautiously optimistic” that would happen.

“So, I actually spoke with the President, and he said he wants to be helpful,” DeSantis said. “We did submit a request for reimbursement for the next 60 days at 100%. That’s significant support, but it’s a significant storm.”

“We haven’t heard back from him,” DeSantis continued. “But I’m actually cautiously optimistic that we do. As you say, Tucker, we live in a very politicized time.”

“But you know, when people are fighting for their lives, when their whole livelihood is at stake, when they’ve lost everything, if you can’t put politics aside for that, then you’re just not going to be able to,” DeSantis reasoned. “So, I’ll work with anybody who wants to help the people of Southwest Florida and throughout our state.”
Hmmmm.. and who is working overtime to make it a very politicized time?
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DeSantis sounds sobered. He's been hit with a massive dose of reality.
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He won’t learn a lesson until he stumbles and can’t get up on his own. He’s from the Entitled part of America. If it works out for him this time he’ll take all credit.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:38 pm He won’t learn a lesson until he stumbles and can’t get up on his own. He’s from the Entitled part of America. If it works out for him this time he’ll take all credit.
He won’t learn a lesson regardless. He’ll take credit for anything good, and blame others for anything that doesn’t go well.
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SuzieC wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:30 pm DeSantis sounds sobered. He's been hit with a massive dose of reality.
He sounds just as sobered as he needs to sound to get what he wants.
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I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
Has everybody heard about the bird?
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keith wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:46 am I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
I think that was for Sandy.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:19 am
keith wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:46 am I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
I think that was for Sandy.
yeah, that makes more sense.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:19 am
keith wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:46 am I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
I think that was for Sandy.

From Axios:

The Senate passed a stopgap bill Thursday to fund the government through December that included an $18.8 billion fund for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to help states with natural disasters, CNBC reports.

Scott voted against the bill, per the Senate roll call. Rubio was not present for the vote.

The House voted in favor of the bill Friday. All 16 GOP members of Florida's Congressional team voted against it, according to the Tallahassee Democrat.
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So, they voted down FEMA indirectly as part of the larger stopgap budget bill, not as a direct thumbs down on emergency spending for Florida.
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bill_g wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:41 am So, they voted down FEMA indirectly as part of the larger stopgap budget bill, not as a direct thumbs down on emergency spending for Florida.
Except parsing that to excuse their vote is a courtesy they never give the other side. So I am disinclined to provide it on their behalf, myself.
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Ben-Prime wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:01 am
bill_g wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:41 am So, they voted down FEMA indirectly as part of the larger stopgap budget bill, not as a direct thumbs down on emergency spending for Florida.
Except parsing that to excuse their vote is a courtesy they never give the other side. So I am disinclined to provide it on their behalf, myself.
Understood. I didn't phrase it well enough. The unspoken part is they can't find their butt with both hands in the dark. Within the continuing resolution was FEMA money, and every one of them should know that Florida is a major recipient of fed emergency funds because of hurricanes. Far more than say Oregon or Washington for example. Yet, they vote against their own best interests to bolster their street cred while chopping themselves off at the knees. Unfortunately, no one seems ready to shout this from the mountaintops (metaphorically) in Florida. It's deliberate ignorance.
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Judge favors free speech arguments in Warren vs. DeSantis case

Dan Sullivan, Tampa Bay Times
Fri, September 30, 2022 at 11:14

The federal judge considering Andrew Warren’s challenge to his suspension by Gov. Ron DeSantis declined in a written order Thursday to immediately reinstate the ousted state attorney, but appeared to favor Warren’s arguments that his removal violated his free speech rights.

The governor is not Warren’s boss, the judge opined, and has no right to tell him how to do his job.

In a 29-page order filed Thursday, U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle elaborated on thoughts he expressed amid arguments in the case two weeks ago, including his preference for Warren and DeSantis to hash out the case in a trial.

“When the facts are known, the case could come out either way,” Hinkle wrote.

Warren, who was twice elected to be the top prosecutor in Hillsborough County, was escorted from his office Aug. 4 by an armed sheriff’s deputy. It happened after DeSantis signed an executive order suspending him from office.

The governor’s reasons included Warren having signed onto a pair of written statements with other elected prosecutors and law enforcement officials throughout the nation in which they pledged not to prosecute cases involving abortion or transgender health care. The governor also cited policies Warren enacted within his office that discouraged prosecutions of certain low-level crimes.

DeSantis appointed Susan Lopez, a Hillsborough County judge and former longtime Tampa prosecutor, to replace Warren as state attorney. Her first acts included reversing some of Warren’s policies.

Warren sued in federal court, alleging that the governor’s action was retaliation for his expression of free speech. He also argued that the suspension exceeded the governor’s authority. Lawyers for DeSantis asked for the case to be dismissed.

Judge Hinkle heard arguments from both sides Sept. 19. He declined a request from Warren for an order that would block the suspension and restore him to office while the case continued. He indicated he wanted to avoid the destabilizing effect of reinstating Warren only for an appeals court to possibly overturn the decision.

He reiterated as much in his order Thursday.

“Changes at the top of any enterprise can be disruptive,” Hinkle wrote. “The Governor has replaced Mr. Warren with a new state attorney, and she has made substantial changes. If Mr. Warren is to be reinstated, it should happen once. Reinstating him now, when it cannot be predicted with confidence that he will ultimately prevail in the litigation, risks further disruption.”

The judge’s order also addressed some of the issues raised in the lawsuit.





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Word on the bird site is that DeSantis is refusing aid from NJ. Dunno what is up with that, but hear it is political. Waiting on a reputable story. :bored:
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sugar magnolia wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:19 am
keith wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:46 am I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
I think that was for Sandy.
Nope, they voted against it for this, safe in the knowledge that it would pass without their vote.

New rule! If you vote against an appropriation, none of it goes to your district. Pass or not.
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Gregg wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:48 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:19 am
keith wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:46 am I read somewhere that all Florida GOP House reps voted no to Fed Aid

Can that be true?

What was the vote?
I think that was for Sandy.
Nope, they voted against it for this, safe in the knowledge that it would pass without their vote.

New rule! If you vote against an appropriation, none of it goes to your district. Pass or not.
So since Rubio and Voldemort voted against fed aid, Florida gets none? I'm agin that, the folks there don't deserve that. But it would be nice if they would elect better representatives. Maybe mandatory signs saying "Your tax dollars at work, no thanks to Rubio and Voldemort who voted against federal aid."
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