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Uninformed wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:46 pm
Kendra wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:12 pm If some hears of a Cohen interview on this news, please let us know.
https:// www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/08/18/ ... ny-vpx.cnn
TY, I did see that earlier live, but good to watch again when I'm not distracted by work. :faint:
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humblescribe wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:44 pm I recall reading on CNN that he also must pony up $2x106 in back taxes, penalties, and interest to New York State and City.
Depp or Trump's guy?
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Somebody was on MSNBC last night as I was driving home who said Weisselberg could come in, say Trump had no personal knowledge that it was illegal and it was his total responsibility as CFO. Company gets fined, all the people named Trump walk away.

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Kriselda, Weisselberg has to pay the dough to New York.
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humblescribe wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:13 pm Kriselda, Weisselberg has to pay the dough to New York.
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Gregg wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:21 pm Somebody was on MSNBC last night as I was driving home who said Weisselberg could come in, say Trump had no personal knowledge that it was illegal and it was his total responsibility as CFO. Company gets fined, all the people named Trump walk away.

:cantlook:

Several talking heads with legal experience with New York's corporate laws said that one of the remedies about this could be a forced dissolution of the corporation and/or rather large fines. Sorta like what happened with the tRump Foundation.

While it would be nice to see tfg and his issue lined up in Central Park in pillories for a couple of years, kicking them out of the family business for an extended period of time and having a trustee or referee or special master operate them to clean them up might cause tfg to stroke out.

I don't think a jury is going to buy the putative "tRump had no knowledge" testimony. He owns and operates billions of dollars of assets that generate untold revenues. He owns 99.5% of the shares. Is is plausible that the owner of businesses like these has no idea what is going on with compensation of key individuals?

The Trump Corporation isn't some mini-mart selling gasoline, super-size sodas, and cigarettes.
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humblescribe wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm I don't think a jury is going to buy the putative "tRump had no knowledge" testimony. He owns and operates billions of dollars of assets that generate untold revenues. He owns 99.5% of the shares. Is is plausible that the owner of businesses like these has no idea what is going on with compensation of key individuals?

The Trump Corporation isn't some mini-mart selling gasoline, super-size sodas, and cigarettes.
Organizing admissible proof might not be so easy.
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Somebody was on MSNBC last night as I was driving home who said Weisselberg could come in, say Trump had no personal knowledge that it was illegal and it was his total responsibility as CFO. Company gets fined, all the people named Trump walk away.
So cooperation agreements usually require the pleading defendant to be truthful.

This cuts both ways. A prosecutor doesn't want a cooperating witness to lie to make the prosecution's case stronger because juries can smell that kind of stuff; they'll discount the singing witness and maybe even find some reasonable doubt.

On the other hand, a defendant who pulls the Mafia move of promising to sing for a lenient sentence, and then lies to protect the boss will soon find the agreement being undone. So the defendant will be looking at the full bill, plus some bonus perjury time.

So if Weisselberg lies to protect the boss, he'll basically die in prison.
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Would that wash? I dunno about US/NY law but my Yurpean accountants make it clear that it's my legal responsibility as director to ensure that the accounts we file for Centipede Yurp Inc. are correct.

"Waaah! The accountant did it" doesn't absolve me.
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humblescribe wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:54 pm :snippity:

The Trump Corporation isn't some mini-mart selling gasoline, super-size sodas, and cigarettes.
But if it was, they'd be the best 'Big Lie" Sodas ever. Big Lie Soda like you've never seen, they're YUUUGGGEEE!
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No bueno.
Don Lewis @DonLew87 wrote: Judge says no delay for Trump Org in tax fraud trial. Adding this beauty: "One of the accusations is the defense is trying to stall. It's starting to feel that way a little bit...I am repeating. We are not delaying this trial. It's starting Oct. 24th and we're going forward."

Article - https://news.yahoo.com/no-delay-trump-o ... 17621.html
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N.Y. Attorney General May Sue Trump After Rejecting Settlement Offer
The attorney general, Letitia James, is also considering suing at least one of the former president’s adult children as part of her Trump Organization inquiry.

By Ben Protess, Jonah E. Bromwich and William K. Rashbaum
Sept. 15, 2022, 5:00 a.m. ET

The New York attorney general’s office has rebuffed an offer from Donald J. Trump’s lawyers to settle a contentious civil investigation into the former president and his family real estate business, setting the stage for a lawsuit that would accuse Mr. Trump of fraud, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.

The attorney general, Letitia James, is also considering suing at least one of Mr. Trump’s adult children, the people said. Ivanka, Eric and Donald Trump Jr., have all been senior executives at Mr. Trump’s company, the Trump Organization.

The likelihood of a lawsuit grew this month after Ms. James’s office rejected at least one settlement offer from Mr. Trump’s lawyers, the people said. While the Trump Organization for months has made overtures to the attorney general’s office — and the two sides could still reach a deal — there is no indication that a settlement will materialize anytime soon.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/nyre ... ement.html
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Shut it down, it's no less a scam than his fake charity.
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Livestream link for announcement by NYAG James: (Scheduled for 10:30 AM EDT today)

https://ag.ny.gov/livestream
Edit: No surprise. They are running late. :waiting:
Update: Now showing 11:30 AM start.
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!

This is like Christmas morning, but I can't come downstairs until the grownups wake up!

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The site just changed the time to 11:30 AM.
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That never happened on Christmas! :lol:
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Foggy wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:47 am Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!

This is like Christmas morning, but I can't come downstairs until the grownups wake up!

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Temporarily locked, see the new thread

I am not permanently locking the thread, we have stuff about NYC investigations and there may be more state stuff coming, but for today we need to discuss the new case in its own thread.
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