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Europe presses Turkey to rethink ditching violence-on-women pact

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-turk ... ce=twitter

OK, as I think I mentioned previously on the now lost Fogbow 1.0 the first American Volkonski came to the USA after being rescued from his fishing boat in the Mediterranean by the frigate USS Constitution (Old Ironsides) after his Greek island home (Patmos) was overrun by the Turks about 1830 and his family slaughtered.

Now, I'm not one to hold a multigenerational grudge. ;) So I merely advocate that the USA adopt Volkonski's "Modest Proposal"-

European Turkey and western Anatolia to be ceded to Greece. :thumbsup:

Eastern Turkey to be divided between Armenia and the Kurds. :thumbsup:

A rump Turkish state to be established around Ankara without access to salt water ports, without NATO or UN membership and with a crushing liability for reparations to Greece, Armenia and a new independent Kurdistan. :thumbsup:

I think that's fair and far more lenient than making Turkey a joint US-Russia nuclear weapons test site which to be clear I do not advocate. :nope:
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Biden rebukes Turkey after it quits accord protecting women
US president calls move ‘deeply disappointing’ as women’s rights advocates say convention is crucial


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... 1616346229
Conservatives in Turkey had claimed the charter damaged family unity and encouraged divorce, and that its references to equality were being used by the LGBT community to gain broader acceptance in society.

Istanbul mayor Ekrem İmamoğlu, one of Erdoğan’s main rivals, tweeted that the decision “tramples on the struggle that women have been waging for years”.

Gökçe Gökçen, deputy chair of the main opposition CHP party, said abandoning the treaty meant “keeping women second-class citizens and letting them be killed”.

“Despite you and your evil, we will stay alive and bring back the convention,” she said on Twitter.
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Two Presidents Visited Turkey. Only the Man Was Offered a Chair.
A protocol mishap involving Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commission president, was cited by critics as symbolic of Turkey’s treatment of women. It also underlined divisions within the European Union.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/worl ... tw-nytimes
Whether by design or by oversight, Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, was left awkwardly standing as her colleague Charles Michel, the president of the council representing the bloc’s 27 members, and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey took the only two available seats between the E.U. and Turkish flags.

“Uhm …” Ms. von der Leyen was heard saying in a video as she stood, lingering, in the grand room in the Turkish presidential palace on Tuesday while Mr. Michel and Mr. Erdogan settled in their gilded seats, perfectly centered for a photo op. Still standing, she raised a questioning hand.

She ended up propped up by cushions on a side sofa several feet away, and lower than the two men. Adding further insult to the faux pas, her position was mirrored on the other side of the room by Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, whom she outranks. Ms. von der Leyen, who is president of the European Commission, and Mr. Michel, who heads the European Council, are of equal rank in the E.U. hierarchy.

“There’s a reason why protocol arrangements exist: to try to take the element of atmospherics and drama out of the equation,” said Ian Lesser, the director of the German Marshall Fund in Brussels. “These things are not supposed to happen.”
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EU should adopt Volkonski's "Modest Proposal"!
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Volkonski wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:01 pm EU should adopt Volkonski's "Modest Proposal"!
It will never happen.

Volkonski leaves the question of Cyprus hanging out there like a sore Gaza.
Has everybody heard about the bird?
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Only took a century.


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U.S. officials say President Joe Biden is preparing to formally acknowledge that the systematic killing and deportation of hundreds of thousands of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire in modern-day Turkey more than a century ago was genocide.
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Helen Kennedy
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This is going to make Turkey crazy. Given the last few years, I’m okay with that.
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Biden told Erdogan he plans to call 1915 massacres of Armenians genocide -sources http://reut.rs/3awMChN

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Jordan Fabian
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Just in: President Biden formally recognizes the Armenian genocide
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Armenia observed the country's 'Genocide Remembrance Day,' marking the beginning of the Ottoman Empire's deportations and killing of Armenians in 1915.

An estimated 1.5 million Armenians were killed more than 100 years ago. https://abcn.ws/3dNESKH
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Biden seems have taken care never to say "Turkey" or "Turks" in his statement. He refers to a "Ottoman-era genocide," and mentions "Constantinople," rather than "Istanbul."
Istanbul Not Constantinople
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jcolvin2 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:20 pm Biden seems have taken care never to say "Turkey" or "Turks" in his statement. He refers to a "Ottoman-era genocide," and mentions "Constantinople," rather than "Istanbul."
Istanbul Not Constantinople
The name was officially changed to Istanbul in 1930. When the genocide occurred it was still Constantinople.
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Volkonski wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:28 pm
jcolvin2 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:20 pm Biden seems have taken care never to say "Turkey" or "Turks" in his statement. He refers to a "Ottoman-era genocide," and mentions "Constantinople," rather than "Istanbul."
Istanbul Not Constantinople
The name was officially changed to Istanbul in 1930. When the genocide occurred it was still Constantinople.
Understood. My point was that there was an effort on Biden's part to place this event squarely in the past, where only those who have a firm grip on history would link it to the modern country of Turkey.
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Turkey says it will respond in time to 'outrageous' U.S. genocide statement

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U.S. President Joe Biden's declaration that massacres of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire constituted genocide is "simply outrageous" and Turkey will respond over coming months, Turkey's presidential spokesman said on Sunday.
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Turkey's President Erdogan tests positive for COVID-19 http://reut.rs/3Gs5jAv
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George Papadopoulos @GeorgePapa19 wrote: While Russia attacks Ukraine, Turkey is now conducting mock air attacks against fellow NATO member Greece in the Aegean Sea
Turkish fighter jets fly over Greek islets
24.02.2022 • 11:02

A pair of Turkish F-16 jets flew over the islets of Anthropofagi and Makronisi in the eastern Aegean on Thursday morning at 20,000 feet.

Three minutes after 10 a.m., a second pair of fighter jets flew over the sea islets at 11,000 feet.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/11782 ... -islets-3/
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Erdogan is a problem.
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The Republic of Türkiye changed its official name from The Republic of Turkey on 26 May 2022 in a request submitted to the Secretary-General by the country's Minister of Foreign Affairs.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ye-country
The US state department has said it will largely stop writing the word Turkey and instead call the country Türkiye, agreeing to a request by the Turkish government, which resents the inadvertent association with poultry.

In a statement announcing measures to disrupt financiers of the Islamic State group, the state department wrote of joint action between “the United States and Türkiye”, written with an umlaut over the u.

“The Turkish embassy did request that we use this spelling in our communications,” state department spokesman Ned Price said.
Turkish diplomat Ayse Inanc behind the new Türkiye nameplate at the United Nations.
Turkey officially changes name at UN to Türkiye
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“The department will use the spelling that you saw today in most of our formal diplomatic and bilateral contexts, including in public communications,” he said.

But he said “Turkey” was not forbidden when “in furtherance of broader public understanding” as it is “more widely understood by the American public”.
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... agreeing to a request by the Turkish government, which resents the inadvertent association with poultry.
I resent the umlaut. Turkiye works for me. But not the umlaut.
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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My Kindle doesn't give me an accent mark for French much less an umlaut for Turkiye. :bag:
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The iPad does, but I'm okay without it.
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:55 am My Kindle doesn't give me an accent mark for French much less an umlaut for Turkiye. :bag:
On an iPad, you hold down the u key for a moment and five different u's with various markings appear for you to select from. Does the Kindle do the same thing?
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:42 pm
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:55 am My Kindle doesn't give me an accent mark for French much less an umlaut for Turkiye. :bag:
On an iPad, you hold down the u key for a moment and five different u's with various markings appear for you to select from. Does the Kindle do the same thing?
It works! :groupdance: Thank you!!!!!!!!
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