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Uninformed wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:24 pm “Rwanda asylum flight cancelled after legal action”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61806383

“The first flight scheduled to take asylum seekers from the UK to Rwanda on Tuesday has been cancelled after a last-minute legal battle.
Up to seven people had been expected to be removed to the east African country.
But the flight was stopped after an intervention from the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR).”
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Next stop, legislation to ignore the ECtHR.
Amusingly, the Good Friday agreement itself says they can't. I am so loving the pretzel this is becoming.
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People arriving in UK on small boats to be electronically tagged
Rights campaigners say ‘appalling’ pilot scheme treats those fleeing conflict and persecution as criminals

Anna MacSwan
Sat 18 Jun 2022 11.38 BST

Refugee rights campaigners have described a new Home Office scheme to electronically tag asylum seekers as “appalling”, saying the move treats people fleeing conflict and persecution as criminals.

Under a 12-month pilot, which began on Wednesday, some people arriving in the UK in small boats or in the back of lorries will be electronically tagged.

Critics say the “draconian” move will do nothing to stop people from taking risky journeys to reach the UK in search of asylum.

Boris Johnson defended the plans on Saturday morning, saying it was essential that people did not simply “vanish” into the rest of the country.

Under the plans, asylum seekers will have to regularly report in person to authorities and may be subject to a curfew or excluded from certain locations, while failure to do so could result in them being returned to detention or prosecuted.

Enver Solomon, the chief executive of the Refugee Council, said: “It’s appalling that this government is intent on treating men, women and children who have fled war, bloodshed and persecution as criminals.

“This draconian and punitive approach not only shows no compassion for very vulnerable people; it will also do nothing to deter those who are desperately seeking safety in the UK.”




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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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How will they hire 40,000 agency temp workers at a day's notice?

Do those agencies even have workers with railway training?
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I bet that was one more of Johnsons spledid ideas. Trained train staff are not available thru agencies but thru unions....

I wonder it he already forgot the delays at ferry ports when a ferry company went for agency shipping workers.
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FWIW
Times journalist: I stand by my Johnson scoop
Times journalist Simon Walters stands by his story which claims Boris Johnson wanted to give Carrie a £100,000-a-year role

Simon Walters, the journalist whose byline appeared on the Times‘s scoop about Boris Johnson attempting to make his then mistress Carrie Symonds his £100,000-a-year chief of staff when he was foreign secretary, has told Mandrake he stands by the story, even though it was mysteriously dropped after its first edition.

“I stand by the story 100 per cent,” Walters told me. “I was in lengthy and detailed communication with No 10 at a high level, Ben Gascoigne and Mrs Johnson’s spokeswoman for up to 48 hours before the paper went to press. At no point did any of them offer an on-the-record denial of any element of the story.”




https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/simon- ... son-scoop/

prior article
Mystery surrounds Times exclusive claiming Boris Johnson wanted to give Carrie Symonds a £100,000 role
Why did one of the scoops of the year suddenly disappear from newspapers friendly to the prime minister?

You might have thought it one of the scoops of the year – the allegation that when he was foreign secretary, Boris Johnson wanted to install his then-lover Carrie Symonds as his chief of staff on a salary of at least £100,000 a year, before senior colleagues made it clear that such a “flagrant abuse of ethics” would have been unacceptable.

Yet the story was turned down by one leading newspaper, then picked up and printed by another before disappearing altogether.



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Volkonski wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:38 pm How will they hire 40,000 agency temp workers at a day's notice?

Do those agencies even have workers with railway training?
Ah, see, I had read 'agency workers' and thought 'related government agency' -- i.e., they were being allowed to bring in workers from the Transport Ministry or whatever -- not 'temp agency'.

I mean, not optimal either one, but one is slightly less stupid than the other.
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This is just downright funny.

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Yeah, a bit unhinged, mentioning the miners in 1980. Trying to suggest that todays strike rules were the same as back then. There was a reason why Thatcher had to take some bold actions in those days. Cause back then the picket lines tended to get violent against workers that still tried to get to work. Also too, iirc, back then it was not only about salaries but about coal mines getting shut down.
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Up to 1,000 GPs could be deported as Home Office threatens to force them out of UK
New recruits have been sent letters warning of their 'removal' just weeks after completing training. Health Education England fears 1,000 temporary visas will expire by March 2023

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21:50, 18 Jun 2022

Up to 1,000 foreign GPs could be lost to the NHS because the Home Office is threatening to force them out of Britain.

New recruits have been sent letters warning of their “removal” just weeks after completing training.

Complex immigration rules mean skilled workers can only apply for a permanent visa after five years.

But GPs usually complete training in three years – leaving a two-year gap during which they must secure sponsorship if they want to stay in the UK.

Health Education England fears 1,000 temporary visas will expire by March 2023.

Dr Pushpo Hossain, 32, said: “These are tax-paying qualified GPs who were trained using taxpayer money and are so vital for the NHS.

“GPs are being blamed for A&E departments being overwhelmed.

The UK needs these overseas GPs – and more – to combat the current crisis.”

The Royal College of General Practitioners said some foreign trainees were “literally going from celebrating that they’ve become a GP to receiving letters threatening deportation”.

The Doctors’ Association UK said it was “utterly appalled”.

Co-chair Dr Ellen Welch said: “We desperately need these doctors. If the Government is serious about bolstering the workforce they need to ensure they are granted indefinite leave to remain to use their skills within our crumbling health service.”

The NHS in England has lost the equivalent of 2,000 GPs since 2015.

This month, the Doctors in Unite union claimed the UK as a whole is short of 20,000 GPs.
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Dr Pushpo Hossain, 32, said: “These are tax-paying qualified GPs who were trained using taxpayer money and are so vital for the NHS.
I guess they could consider it foreign aid? Wtf.
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In lieu of NHS hospitals the UK should establish euthanasia centers so sick people can die painlessly.

This will also reduce the UK's demand for food and fuel.

It is win win. Less money sent on doctors. Less money spent on imported food.

Just need a good recipe for soylent green.

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Volkonski wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:44 pm In lieu of NHS hospitals the UK should establish euthanasia centers so sick people can die painlessly.
We already have them. They're called Greggs. And they are "centres", not "centers".
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anowlcalledsage wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:20 pm

We already have them. They're called Greggs. And they are "centres", not "centers".
Here now, Greggs are an institution. Where would we be without a vegan sausage roll?
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Tory's - they don't like protesters
Police swoop to seize Stop Brexit Man’s speaker under new law banning 'noisy protests'

28 June 2022, 13:02 | Updated: 28 June 2022, 14:32
By Asher McShane

A large group of police surrounded well-known anti-Brexit activist 'Stop Brexit Man' and shut down a demonstration as new protest laws came into force.

Former coin dealer Steve Bray, turned failed Lib Dem parliamentary candidate and pro-EU activist, was surrounded by a group of around twenty uniformed officers on Tuesday.

The officers seized his hi-fi equipment as they prevented him from setting up in Westminster this afternoon.

Under the Police Crime Sentencing and Courts Act which came into force today, he was informed he was forbidden from conducting a ‘noisy protest’ within a designated area outside the Palace of Westminster.

Mr Bray told LBC: "I'm here, protesting as normal, I've been protesting for the last six years or so and the police warned me twice and I said, 'no we're a protest, I'm not recognising this fascist law that Priti Patel has pushed through Parliament'.

"I put the amp on again... and they came over and started to seize the two amplifiers.

"I'm very angry but at the end of the day amplifiers are replaceable. We need more people here, we need more noise because I ain't going to let these b******* grind me down, none of us are."

Mr Bray added that he was "absolutely not worried at all about being arrested", adding "this has fast become a fascist state, when the laws don't suit them, they change them to suit them and that's when we need to start worrying".

He said that for every amp the police confiscated he would replace them with another 10.



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If you visit the UK pack some sandwiches.
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Main issue: fertilizer cost, and a fertilizer support package promised in a government handout was once again Johnson vapourware. And should something appear on the horizon it's too late for this crop season. Also too farmer will no longer invest in crops they are unable to harvest cause visas for foreign labour does not get approved. Again it seem from the snippets I see, if eventually approved too little too late.
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Volkonski wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:10 pm https:// twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1542220787352051713?t=iL4o96nPpETcqGxoevsKjQ&s=19

If you visit the UK pack some sandwiches.
In contrast to entering the EU where they will confiscate your third country sandwich you can still bring in anything to the UK. They have for the umphteen times delayed the implementation of import checks....
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Looks like Boris has at last exasperated enough of his own party with his persistent lying.

“Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Health Secretary Sajid Javid quit Boris Johnson's cabinet amid a row over the handling of misconduct claims against ex-Deputy Chief Whip Chris Pincher”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
If you can't lie to yourself, who can you lie to?
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Uninformed wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:02 pm Looks like Boris has at last exasperated enough of his own party with his persistent lying.

“Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Health Secretary Sajid Javid quit Boris Johnson's cabinet amid a row over the handling of misconduct claims against ex-Deputy Chief Whip Chris Pincher”:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
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bbc wrote:Johnson is under pressure over what he knew of complaints against Pincher when he appointed him earlier this year - and what he has said since
From several news snippets elsewhere it looks like Johnson was informed / warned about the missteps of Pilcher.
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WaPo has a live stream set up at No.10, expecting something to happen, active for 45 minutes at the time of this posting,
the quietness before the storm

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