Roe vs. Wade, American abortion rights

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Ben-Prime wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:24 am Waiting for the challenge to this on religious freedom grounds that not all religious believe life begins at fertilization.
The Republican Party is a private organization; it likely would argue it isn't preventing anyone from joining.
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bob wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:14 pm
Ben-Prime wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:24 am Waiting for the challenge to this on religious freedom grounds that not all religious believe life begins at fertilization.
The Republican Party is a private organization; it likely would argue it isn't preventing anyone from joining.
Oh, I don't mean on the platform itself, I meant on legislation based on it. I should have been more clear.
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This Texas teen wanted an abortion. She now has twins.
Brooke Alexander found out she was pregnant 48 hours before the Texas abortion ban took effect


Brooke found out she was pregnant late on the night of Aug. 29, two days before the Texas Heartbeat Act banned abortions once an ultrasound can detect cardiac activity, around six weeks of pregnancy. It was the most restrictive abortion law to take effect in the United States in nearly 50 years.

For many Texans who have needed abortions since September, the law has been a major inconvenience, forcing them to drive hundreds of miles — and pay hundreds of dollars — for a legal procedure they once could have had at home. But not everyone has been able to leave the state. Some people couldn’t take time away from work or afford gas, while others, faced with a long journey, decided to stay pregnant.

Nearly 10 months into the Texas law, they have started having the babies they never planned to carry to term.

Texas offers a glimpse of what much of the country would face if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade this summer, as has been widely expected since a leaked draft opinion circulated last month. If the landmark precedent falls, roughly half the states in the country are expected to dramatically restrict abortion or ban it altogether, creating vast abortion deserts that will push many into parenthood.
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Volkonski wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:47 am
Texas and other bullshit states have already announced they are coming after companies that do this.
Businesses that help employees get abortions could be next target of Texas lawmakers if Roe v. Wade is overturned
Fourteen GOP legislators warned Lyft that they’d seek to ban companies that pay for abortions from doing business in Texas. The extent of support for the idea is unclear.

With Texas poised to automatically ban abortion if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, some Republicans are already setting their sights on the next target to fight the procedure: businesses that say they’ll help employees get abortions outside the state.

Fourteen Republican members of the state House of Representatives have pledged to introduce bills in the coming legislative session that would bar corporations from doing business in Texas if they pay for abortions in states where the procedure is legal.

This would explicitly prevent firms from offering employees access to abortion-related care through health insurance benefits. It would also expose executives to criminal prosecution under pre-Roe anti-abortion laws the Legislature never repealed, the legislators say.
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time for mass strikes across these states.
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It is one those historic moments like JFK assassination where were when you heard about the event

Look out Dred Scott and Citizens United you have competition as the worst decision.
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This is just the beginning.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/24/in-a-6 ... -decision/
"The Consitution does not confer a right to abortion," Justice Samuel Alito wrote in the majority opinion, a draft of which was leaked to much uproar months ago. "It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives."

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas and Brett Kavanaugh all wrote their own concurring opinions. In his concurrence, Thomas wrote that the court should now "reconsider" its decisions that found a right to contraception, sex between consenting adult men, and same-sex marriage — and "correct the error" made in cases like "Griswold, Lawerence and Obergefell."
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Where does it say AK-15 in the Constitution? :mad:
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At least Roberts stopped pretending not to be activist.
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pipistrelle wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:00 pm At least Roberts stopped pretending not to be activist.
Exactly the opposite. The claim is that we are finally free of an activist court. Been hearing it all morning, must be true.
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Now that abortion is no longer a hot button issue with Republicans against Democrats it leaves only guns, taxes, and socialism.
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I think it's time to increase the number of supreme court Justices to at least 15 AND to set 10 year term limits. This disaster will not affect me, I'm old and no longer in possession of a uterus, but my heart is breaking for all the women who's lives this is going to destroy :crying:
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I have an almost-thirteen-year old granddaughter. I'm in a safe state--for now.
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Jim wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:39 am time for mass strikes across these states.
Biden speaks out against moves by Texas, Florida, and their ilk to prevent their citizens from seeking access to healthcare in other states.
Daily Wire @realDailyWire wrote: Biden: “If any state or local official… tries to interfere with a woman exercising her basic right to travel, I will do everything in my power to fight that deeply un-American attack.”
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Jesus that list is too long.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:11 pm
Biden: “If any state or local official… tries to interfere with a woman exercising her basic right to travel, I will do everything in my power to fight that deeply un-American attack.”
I just got this wonderful image of there being a National Guard hotline that women could call to help them cross state lines to get an abortion.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:11 pm
Jim wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:39 am time for mass strikes across these states.
Biden speaks out against moves by Texas, Florida, and their ilk to prevent their citizens from seeking access to healthcare in other states.
https:// twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1540380650959781890
Daily Wire @realDailyWire wrote: Biden: “If any state or local official… tries to interfere with a woman exercising her basic right to travel, I will do everything in my power to fight that deeply un-American attack.”
With women needing to travel to a different state for healthcare, does this establish a case for federal intervention based on "interstate commerce"?
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neeneko wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:34 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:11 pm
Biden: “If any state or local official… tries to interfere with a woman exercising her basic right to travel, I will do everything in my power to fight that deeply un-American attack.”
I just got this wonderful image of there being a National Guard hotline that women could call to help them cross state lines to get an abortion.
or protect abortion clinics?
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RTH10260 wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:00 pm or protect abortion clinics?
Heh.

On another forum I frequent there is a poster that loves talking about how we should have a prime time show involving USMC people beating up 'liberals'. Now I could actually kind picture a COPS style reality show where National Guard troops protect clinics and camera crews film them dealing with anti abortion protesters.
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