Proud Boys

[Kendra]

Proud Boys Jan 6 conspiracy case returns to court at 2pm

Waiting to see how the Justice Dept responds to a request for change of venue by defense. And waiting to hear if Enrique Tarrio's defense addresses ruling that Tarrio must remain jailed until trial

[Kendra]

BREAKING: DOJ has added *seditious conspiracy* charges against the Proud Boys leadership, including national chairman Enrique Tarrio.

https://justice.gov/usao-dc/press-relea ... 1/download

[Kendra]

At approx. 215pm ... Grand jury returned *seditious conspriacy* charges against accused Proud Boys leaders in US Capitol riot

Now.. it's OathKeepers and Proud Boys accused of seditious conspiracy

Do read the whole thread. Wow.

With the action picking up with Proud Boys and J6Assault, should this thread be moved to the insurrection topics section and/or create a new thread in that section for the prosecutions Proud Boys, charges, et al?

[Kendra]

Moar:

[Kendra]

ALERT;

Enrique Tarrio and group of Proud Boys defendants plead NOT GUILTY to seditious conspiracy and other Jan 6 charges from superseding indictment

[Kendra]

"F[xxx] all these p[xxx]y liar politicians. Trump should have them all executed... America needs a civil war.”

Proud Boy Ryan Ashlock pleaded guilty this morning.

"Defendant brought a handgun with him on the trip... Kuehne brought two AR-15 or similar assault rifles on the trip..."

From the agreed upon statement of offense. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .148.0.pdf

[Foggy]

Off Topic

With the action picking up with Proud Boys and J6Assault, should this thread be moved to the insurrection topics section and/or create a new thread in that section for the prosecutions Proud Boys, charges, et al?

Thanks for asking. Now that it's been a few years since Malheur, I think there has been a ... I dunno, maybe a split? Between the "Bundys and Their Elk" - which I believe is primarily a Western US, anti-government movement based on fantasies of seizing public lands, and the white supremacist movement, which is nationwide and not anything to do with the federal government owning a lot of land.

Yes, the Bundys have shown they are racist, too also. But the Proud Boys are based on racism, whereas racism had very little to do with Cliven trying to keep his cattle or Ham and Eggs seizing Malheur.

Having said that, the truth is some people (Proud Boys) are several different kinds of stupid and crazy, and they belong in various different categories of a forum devoted to following stupid and crazy people.

I shall consider a bit of reorganization, and then hopefully this thread will be correctly filed.

.

Edit: Wow, it's been a long time since I reminded everyone that I predicted the ambush on the road to John Day a half hour before we learned it happened! In case you forgot!

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

I like the separate Proud Boys thread. Keeps my mind straight about who is the who doing the stupid stuff.

[Kendra]

I like the separate Proud Boys thread. Keeps my mind straight about who is the who doing the stupid stuff.

Agreed, but now the talk about Proud Boys is focusing more on the J6 cases and plea deals and my was should they be in the insurrection thread now. It's Foggy's playpen though

[jemcanada2]

I like the separate Proud Boys thread. Keeps my mind straight about who is the who doing the stupid stuff.

Narrator: they’re all doing stupid stuff

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

I sees the dilemma, Kendra.

[raison de arizona]

FWIW. IMHO. I like the more specific threads. Yes, they are insurrectionists, but more specifically, they are Proud Boys (or Oaf Keepers.) I suppose they could go in the Assault thread, but more specific is better so they go with their ilk in their specific brand of nonsense thread. Those insurrectionists that don't fit into a more specific category can live in the Assault thread.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Yeah that!!! Well said, raison!

[Kendra]

FWIW. IMHO. I like the more specific threads. Yes, they are insurrectionists, but more specifically, they are Proud Boys (or Oaf Keepers.) I suppose they could go in the Assault thread, but more specific is better so they go with their ilk in their specific brand of nonsense thread. Those insurrectionists that don't fit into a more specific category can live in the Assault thread.

Yes. I was just hoping we could have a break out for the J6/Proud Boy court stuff, so I can avoid getting my hand slapped if I keep posting about those matters in this thread

It's Foggy's playpen though. If it's a lot of work to move the court case stuff to a thread in the insurrection forum, we can start fresh and move forward?

[RTH10260]

https:// twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1536743502972866564

"F[xxx] all these p[xxx]y liar politicians. Trump should have them all executed... America needs a civil war.”

Proud Boy Ryan Ashlock pleaded guilty this morning.

"Defendant brought a handgun with him on the trip... Kuehne brought two AR-15 or similar assault rifles on the trip..."

From the agreed upon statement of offense. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .148.0.pdf

I continue to be astonished what some people believe the powers of potus are in the US.

And some need the awareness what a real war is. Drop them over the Ukraine without a parachute. NADT.

[Foggy]

The question I answered was not about separate threads, but where to move this one (without separating it at all) in the overall forum structure (meaning the Board Index page).

It's in "Bundys and their elk". Are the Proud Boys part of the Bundy poots? No, so this thread is in the wrong place. I'm working on where to move it.

[Kendra]

Sorry Foggy, didn't follow you too well

My vote is the insurrectionist thread. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewforu ... 257e2aee3d

[Foggy]

Yeah, I'm thinking we need a White Supremacist forum. But today is too bizzy, I will ponder on it later.

[bob]

Yeah, I'm thinking we need a White Supremacist forum. But today is too bizzy, I will ponder on it later.

They could have their own topic, akin to the Bundys, in the "Sovereign Citizens and Other Fringe Craziness" forum, i.e., "Board index > Sovereign Citizens and Other Fringe Craziness > Proud Boys."

With the quibble that the Proud Boys sadly no longer are "fringe."

Ditto that they deserve their own topic, as they continue to do things besides insurrecting.

[pipistrelle]

Crossposted.

If you watch nothing else today, watch 17 minutes of how the Proud Boys led the assault. Intentional and coordinated. No subscription needed.

[Foggy]

Yeah, just for completeness, as they say, I did move this thread into the new "White Supremacists and Neo-Fascists" subforum, and just in time apparently, because it turns out that there may actually have been some coordination between the Proud Boys and the White House, as disgusting and evil as that is. The President of the United States of America, conspiring with a far-right, neo-Fascist group to overthrow a legitimate election held under our Constitution. I still have trouble getting my mind around how huge a crime it was, and how close it came to success.

Anyway, stand back and stand by, I mean, more will be revealed ...

[Kendra]

Accused Proud Boy asks to move his Jan 6 trial outta Wash DC. In court filing he cites impact of House Jan 6 Cmte hearings

"The hearings so far are slick, choreographed with
the assistance of a former president of ABC News, far beneath the dignity of the United States Congress"

And... defense lawyer refers to residents/prospective jurors in the District of Columbia as:

"Dorky, wonky, media-attentive Washingtonians"

[Kendra]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

Rep. Dan Crenshaw and his staff were violently confronted at the Republican Party of Texas convention a short time ago, when far-right social media activist Alex Stein and others whom witnesses described as Proud Boys began shouting “eyepatch McCain” at him – an attempted insult coined by Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson.

A witness to the incident tells Mediaite that in addition to Stein and others being escorted out of the building, some arrests were made at the scene.

“They got physical with multiple people, including hitting them with cameras,” a witness at the scene said. “His campaign manager was assaulted by being pushed aggressively into a pillar.”

You can see that part in the video above, which was shared by Stein and his blog.

In a photo shared with Mediaite, some of the ejected persons are seen outside the building wearing Proud Boys gear.

[Volkonski]

Thought Crenshaw was a RWNJ himself. Have he and Tucker Carlson feuded?

[Slim Cognito]

Eyepatch McCain - Carlson must be so proud.