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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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I'm still bummed out Barr got the AG job over Taitz. My hope now is that Trump hires Taitz to represent him in the event he gets impeached. I can just see Taitz impassioned defense in the Senate. And we'll be especially lucky if she brings her projector with her and puts up her zibits. "Left, left, down, a little to the right, down, up, up, to the right. Ah, perfect."
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Post by Northland10 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:37 pm

Dropping without comment since my stop is coming. Latest denials in the 2006 Klayman v JW case.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/sh ... cv0670-604
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Post by bob » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:12 pm

Northland10 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:37 pm
Dropping without comment since my stop I still coming. Latest denials in the 2006 Klayman v JW case.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/sh ... cv0670-604
D.D.C. wrote:This is the fourth time in ten years that Klayman has sought [Colleen Kollar-Kotelly]'s voluntary recusal and/or disqualification from this case. See Klayman’s Recons. & Recusal Mot. at 12-14; Klayman v. Judicial Watch, Inc., 628 F. Supp. 2d 98 (D.D.C. 2009) (“Klayman First Recusal Opinion”); Klayman v. Judicial Watch, Inc., 744 F. Supp. 2d 264 (D.D.C. 2010) (“Klayman Second Recusal Opinion”); Klayman v. Judicial Watch, Inc., 278 F. Supp. 3d 252 (D.D.C. 2017) (“Klayman Third Recusal Opinion”).
Klayman's attempt to disqualify this judge in other cases is part of the tale of his looming D.C. bar suspension.


The bigger news is that Judicial Watch (and Fitton) sought to attach Klayman's wages from Freedom Watch. :rotflmao: The court had stayed the attachment, but lifted that stay in this ruling. :popcorn:

The court also deferred ruling on Judicial Watch and Fitton's motion for attorney's fee until the appeals are complete, i.e., until Klayman's bill will be even larger.
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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:21 pm

So much winning.

Does Larry get any salary from his one man idiot show?

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Post by bob » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:27 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:21 pm
Does Larry get any salary from his one man idiot show?
That is a good question.

I suspect in the coming months we will learn more about Freedom Watch's financial operation. In theory, Klayman as its chair (ob. "and general counsel"), draws a salary, or is at least paid somehow.

But I suspect Klayman soon will figure out some method not to paid (directly) by Freedom Watch.
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Post by Orlylicious » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:57 pm

Very nice ending. Looks like GIL will get garnished. How oh how will he pay for all those Denny's Grand Slam Jury breakfasts now? :(

Hope all his friends see this. Imagine Tom Fitton will pump it with all his little might.

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does he still owe the ex?

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Post by Somerset » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:18 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:27 pm
Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:21 pm
Does Larry get any salary from his one man idiot show?
That is a good question.

I suspect in the coming months we will learn more about Freedom Watch's financial operation. In theory, Klayman as its chair (ob. "and general counsel"), draws a salary, or is at least paid somehow.

But I suspect Klayman soon will figure out some method not to paid (directly) by Freedom Watch.
I wouldn't be surprised if Freedom Watch is run like a sole proprietorship and GIL pays a lot of personal expenses with company funds.

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:19 pm

Whip wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:07 pm
does he still owe the ex?
I would assume he still pays child support to his ex-wife for children -- towards whom he was "grossly inappropriate" while bathing them, according to a family law judicial officer. (I suspect his right to see his children has been curtailed; lucky for the kids.)

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Post by bob » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:24 pm

Whip wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:07 pm
does he still owe the ex?
IIRC, he does. The ex- craftily got the proceeds from Klayman's defamation verdict against Judicial Watch. But that verdict ($180k, IIRC) didn't satisfy all of the money that Klayman owes her.
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:34 am

Are Freedom Watch and Judicial Watch actually legal tax exempt non-profits, or are they more like Taitz's pretend foundation?
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:21 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:34 am
Are Freedom Watch and Judicial Watch actually legal tax exempt non-profits, or are they more like Taitz's pretend foundation?
They are both 504(c)3s and even Freedom Watch's 990s have been available. I pulled a few awhile back from Guidestar.

I wrote this earlier on this thread.
Northland10 wrote:
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GIL's Freedom watch apparently has had some problems filing 990s. He was revoked at some point, so filed 2011, 2012 and 2013 last October. Well, we are now in March of 2016 and 3 years from 2013 so, from GuideStar:
FREEDOM WATCH INC
WASHINGTON, DC www.freedomwatchusa.org

This organization's exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years. Further investigation and due diligence are warranted.
I took a quick glance at the existing 990s and Freedom Watch claimed in contributions:

2011: 889K
2012: 1.5M
2013: 2.1M

As President working 70 hours a week (yeah, right), he is paid around 320K down from 344K in 2011. Yet, he manages to find time to claim poverty.

Ted Baehr and Louise Benson are both listed as directors, so they may be some of the cadre of Klayman donors.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:42 am

He did get his determination back and has filed 990s. The financials look basically the same though sagging. Almost half of their income goes to advertising and marketing, i.e. probably those direct mailing companies. He stopped listing his parapro individually in top compensated but I assume he still has one and the other staff he uses from time to time.

The travel budget is substantial.

He has a simple issue with JW. Their yearly contributions in 2017 were 49 million. FW was 1.2 million.
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Post by fierceredpanda » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:23 am

Honestly, there are days when I wonder why I haven't gotten into the 501(c)(3) law firm/advocacy/throw-poo-at-wall racket. A former law professor of mine founded a particularly obnoxious right-wing group, the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty (the name of which, so far as I can tell, is 75% false, since it is not an institute of any kind and definitely does not stand for law or liberty). I'm sure he has some well-heeled conservative donors with more money than sense funding the whole operation so he can take idiotic cases pro bono, like defending a public school that got caught having a batshit crazy pastor give an insane prayer at their graduation, or suing the governor for using the line-item veto power in exactly the same way that Scott Walker did.

If anyone has contact information for some absurdly rich liberal/secular types who wouldn't mind funding a tax-exempt nuisance suit mill that would pay me low-to-mid six-figures, I'd really appreciate it.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:14 pm

This I still not the best week for GIL's attempts to disqualify judges and get reconsideration. In his 2 cases against the DC Bar (Fox and Lim), his motions were denied.

Fox (the older of the 2)
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/sh ... 8cv1579-40

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https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/sh ... 8cv2209-29
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Post by Orlylicious » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:51 pm

:lol: Thank you Northland!

Meanwhile, Tom Fitton posts beefcake photos...

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This episode is filled with Klayman's sour grapes, e.g., he twice sniped about "Fitton wearing tight shirts." Meeeeeeeow!

"I know I'm rambling today, but I very emotional," said Klayman (in a near monotone).


In "news," Klayman claims he's going to "try" Mueller "in the fall." :roll: And there will be more "indictments" then as well. :roll:

And the Bundy appeal response to the government appeal will be filed in the 9th "next week."
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Post by Orlylicious » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:49 pm

To be fair, Tom looks hot in tight fitting clothes ;)

Bob brought this up in the Arpaio topic but it's a good roundup of Klayman fail:

Judge Dismisses Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Defamation Lawsuit Against The New York Times
from the next-time,-bring-facts,-rather-than-a-stunt-lawyer dept
Wed, Aug 14th 2019 12:34pm — Tim Cushing

Attorney Larry Klayman is building himself quite the portfolio of high-profile losses. He's well on his way to seeing his lawsuit on behalf of Judge Roy Moore tossed by an irritated court. His lawsuit against social media companies for their banning of noted tire slash expert Laura Loomer has already been dismissed. [Really? Didn't know about the Loomer dismissal, funny how they don't mention their losses]

Well on his way to having his law license suspended, Klayman has just seen another one of his ridiculous lawsuits tossed by a federal court. [h/t Adam Steinbaugh]

This one claimed three publications -- including the New York Times -- besmirched the previously-unsullied reputation of (ex) Sheriff Joe Arpaio, preventing him from successfully running for Senator.

Reciting the litany of terrible things Arpaio had done over his career, the New York Times pointed out Arpaio is pretty much defamation-proof. Even though the Times screwed up by calling him a convicted felon rather than a convicted misdemeanant, everything else written about him was true or protected opinion.

The court points out Arpaio's Klayman-authored complaint is a skeleton partially garbed in useless invective. The decision [PDF] is concise, running only 11 pages, but it still provides enough space to completely dismantle the former sheriff's arguments.

Even with the court siding with the plaintiff at this stage of the pleadings, there's not enough in Arpaio's complaint to push this past the NYT's motion to dismiss. When you come to court, you need to bring facts. That's not exactly Klayman's strong suit.
Plaintiff’s Complaint comes nowhere close to pleading sufficient facts that plausibly establish “actual malice.” Indeed, Plaintiff pleads no facts at all. Instead, throughout his Complaint, he does no more than recite the applicable legal standard.
There's lots more and articles are linked at https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190 ... imes.shtml


:lol: GIL is the biggest loser. When he gets disbarred, let's have a chatroom party! :bar:
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Post by bob » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:26 pm

Klayman v. The Blacks (nee Pennie v. Obama, N.D. Tex. No. 16-2010) was dismissed [in 2017].
Klayman's site: Dallas Police Sergeant Files Defamation and Civil Rights Complaint Against Dallas Morning News and Others for $290 Million:
Larry Klayman, a former federal prosecutor and founder of both Judicial Watch and now Freedom Watch, in his private capacity filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas (Case No. 3:19-CV-01945-N) alleging defamation and racial and other forms of invidious discrimination on behalf of Dallas Police Sergeant Demetrick "Tre" Pennie. The complaint prays for over $290 million in actual and punitive damages . . . .

The Backstory

On September 7th 2016, the Dallas Morning News publicly endorsed then-Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton for President. On September 16th 2016, Sgt. Pennie filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas against Black Lives Matter, and a several others including Barack Obama, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam, and then presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. The lawsuit alleged that the defendants incited violence against the police and generally stoked a race war. On September 19th 2016, the Dallas Morning News responded to Sgt. Pennie's lawsuit by saying "DPD sergeant's suit against Black Lives Matter does more harm than good." The article went on to say that Pennie didn't understand the issues that led to racial tensions in these communities. The fallout between Sgt. Pennie and Dallas Morning News carried over into 2018.

The Alleged Set-Up

On July 6th 2018, Sgt. Pennie's foundation filed a lawsuit against another organization for allegedly stealing checks and then downplaying it as an accident. The case was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas on case #4:18-cv-00481.[*] Later that month, Sgt. Pennie met with the Dallas Morning News in "good faith" about the impending case. Sgt. Pennie would later learn that the DMN article was not about the case, but instead a "hit piece" about him.

Then on August 17th 2018, the alleged defamatory news article was published by the Dallas Morning News regarding Sgt. Pennie and his two foundations.[**] Sgt. Pennie alleged that the article was a "decapitation attempt" on his character for suing the other organization and his prior lawsuit against Black Lives Matter et. al. Sgt. Pennie alleged that this was a coordinated attempt by the Dallas Morning News, the former Dallas mayor, and other involved organizations to destroy his reputation and harm him in other ways. Pennie stated "the cronyism and corrupt discriminatory practices that have governed the City of Dallas for years has to end. The backroom politics and slanted media stories have negatively affected me and my family and has put us at great risk of even physical harm."

About Sgt. Demetrick Pennie

Sgt. Demetrick "Tre" Pennie is currently running for U.S. Congress Texas District 30. He has a doctorate degree from Texas Tech University and has previously served as an adjunct professor for the University of Phoenix. Prior to joining the police force, Sgt. Pennie served honorably in the U.S. Army as an artillery specialist. He is currently the President of the Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation.
The complaint ("curiously" hosted on FW's site) names as defendants the Dallas Morning News (and two of its writers), Mayes Media Group (and its president), Dallas Police Association (and its president, a member, its Assist the Officer Foundation, the foundation's president and an "affiliate" of it), and the City of Dallas (and its former mayor). The complaint alleges: employment discrimination, racial discrimination, retaliation, and 42 USC sec. 2000d [CRA of 1964] violations against the city (and its mayor); and three counts of defamation against everyone but the city. $290M prayer.

Because nothing says, "I stand with cops" like suing the city and the police association. :roll:


* Dallas Fallen Officer Foundation v. Frazier; not one of Klayman's.

** DMN: DPD sergeant collected millions for fallen officers. A fraction went to the families; see also DMN: If you run a charity for slain police officers, give all the money to the families.
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Post by pipistrelle » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:32 pm

The complaint prays too also.

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Post by bob » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:28 pm

On the Twitter machines, @FreedomWatchUSA blocked some jerk.* Yet @LarryEKlayman hasn't (yet). :think:


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FW: Freedom Watch Opens Investigation of Epstein Murder!:
BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON NUMBER ONE SUSPECTS!

President Trump is Right!


The apparent murder of Jeffrey Epstein last weekend — a felon who along with Bill Clinton and hordes of other "beautiful" people, sexually abused and exploited underage girls for their perverted sexual pleasure — came as no surprise. Murdered in a federal prison, when he was supposed to be on "suicide watch," can only be explained by realizing that this was likely a "Mafia Hit."

The number one user and abuser of Epstein's evil was of course former President Bill Clinton, who for just starters it is known traveled on Epstein's private plane with underage girls at least 23 times.

Clinton is known for his sexual perversion and abuse of women and the Monica Lewinsky scandal is just one small example. I know personally because I represented the women who were sexually and otherwise abused by Bill and Hillary Clinton during the Clinton years. And who was the person who sought to harm and did harm these women? You guessed it: Hillary Clinton who had the IRS sicced on them, sent private investigators to threaten their children and did other felonious deeds to keep their mouths shut, especially during the impeachment proceedings which I as the founder of Judicial Watch, helped start.

During the Clinton years and thereafter, Bill and Hillary Clinton committed over 40 scandals ranging from Chinagate, to Filegate, to Travelgate to IRSgate and Ron Browngate, to name just a few. It is thus no wonder that over 80 persons, many of whom were material witnesses and had knowledge about the Clintons crimes, were found dead. As just two examples, there was Vince Foster, Hillary's former partner at the Rose Law Firm and Deputy White House Counsel, and a prime player in the Filegate scandal, and Jim McDougal, who had the goods on the Clintons in the infamous Whitewater scandal. McDougal, like Epstein, was found dead in his jail cell. Just a coincidence? I think not!

And, in the course of my hard-hitting cases against the Clintons, when I deposed Linda Tripp, who had worked with Vince Foster in the Clinton White House, and the two whistleblowers who exposed the first Hillary Clinton email scandal — where about a million emails implicating the Clintons in crimes were suppressed from production to me at Judicial Watch, independent counsel Ken Starr and Congress — a list of these 80 plus dead persons were left on the chairs of Ms. Tripp and the whistleblowers, among other material witnesses.

Thus, even if the Clintons did not indeed have any of these persons and material witnesses murdered, they wanted persons who had evidence which would implicate them in even more crimes, to know that they were at risk and would be murdered if they talked.

I can go on and on, but I do not need to. We all know just how evil Hillary and Bill Clinton are — worse than even Bonnie and Clyde, who also murdered innocent people at will.

That is why I, the only person ever to have a court rule that Bill Clinton committed a crime, must now again spring into action and investigate, and then through Freedom Watch's citizens grand juries indict, try and convict the Clintons of murder when this evidence bears out!

Sure the Clintons did not themselves go into the prison and kill Epstein, a slimy pedophile, criminal and also witness who could have finally put the Clintons away for life. Instead, they undoubtedly had a Mafia hit man do it for them, as it is widely known that the Clintons do have ties to the Mafia. Some of their highest confidants and political advisers have known Mafia ties. This is no secret! I deposed some of them during the Clinton years in the White House!

Epstein himself likely was Mafia. To this day, it is not known how Epstein acquired his fortune, such that he had private jets, a fantasy island, large mansions and somehow acquired other massive wealth. The Mafia was thus the likely vehicle, and it did not want Epstein to talk and provide evidence against their dons and other "leaders." Thus, it would take little for the Clintons to have their Mafia friends eliminate Epstein, before he entered into a cooperation agreement with his prosecutors.

Sound far fetched? NO, YOU FELLOW PATRIOTS KNOW THE SCORE! AND DO NOT COUNT ON OUR COMPROMISED AND CORRUPT JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS AND HAVE HEADS ROLL!

Just last week our Attorney General Bill Barr predictably took a dive and decided not to prosecute the number one criminal which caused Special Counsel Mueller's phony "witch hunt" against President Trump, former Obama FBI Director James Comey. Now with regard to Epstein's murder, he is taking another dive! Perhaps fearing for his own life or political standing in the DC swamp, he assigned the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) to conduct an obviously bogus investigation. It is BOP who is in effect the fox in charge of the henhouse and, for likely secret payoffs, those inside BOP had to have participated with the Clintons and their Mafia friends in having Epstein hit before he could implicate them in crimes.

That is why fellow patriots forget about our compromised Justice Department, as BOP is part of the Department and has been corrupted with the rest of the federal law enforcement establishment. So the American people now need to turn to their real Justice Department, Freedom Watch to get the job done!

We must finally bring the Bonnie and Clyde of American politics to justice and have them locked away for the rest of their despicable lives! Only Freedom and Larry Klayman, yours truly, will hold them legally accountable, peacefully and legally, fearlessly without restraint!

I will not sell out and I will not take a dive like our so called attorney general.

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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:02 pm

Err Larry, while you accuse the Clintons of supposed improprieties, you are known to have treated your children inappropriately. Pot calling kettle...

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:53 pm

All those words to say so little. And almost none of it true.

Strange how trump isn’t mentioned even though he palled around with Epstein too and Epstein was in the custody of the federal government at the time of his demise.

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Post by Northland10 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:29 am

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:02 pm
Err Larry, while you accuse the Clintons of supposed improprieties, you are known to have treated your children inappropriately. Pot calling kettle...
Hey now. It's malicious defamation to reprint what GIL files in a public court document. However, GIL harassing and accusing the Clintons of things without any proof is freedom. You're just biased against him because he's a dude.
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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:47 am

You're just biased against him because he's a dude.
I always considered that I was a dude.
I am biased against idiots.

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