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Opinion What to look for if Trump is indicted by the DOJ
By Andrew Weissmann and Ryan Goodman

Much has been written in the last 24 hours about where charges against former President Donald Trump would be brought with respect to his handling of government documents and obstructing the investigation into that conduct. The Constitution requires each criminal charge be brought in the location where the criminal conduct at issue occurred, but often that is in multiple jurisdictions, leaving the government free to choose from a variety of locations after considering a variety of factors.

But what if.

What if Special Counsel Jack Smith charges Trump in Washington DC, wins a criminal conviction from a jury finding the former president guilty of all charges, but also finding that the conduct occurred outside of DC and thus should never have heard the case? Can Smith try again in Florida?

Maybe not.

Kendra wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:40 am

Opinion What to look for if Trump is indicted by the DOJ
By Andrew Weissmann and Ryan Goodman

https://wapo.st/3NkdpC3

Gifted link.

wapo wrote:We believe that the rule of law requires that Trump be charged, based on the wealth of publicly available facts and the history of the Justice Department charging people who did far less. Just last week, a former Army lieutenant colonel was sentenced to three years in prison for illegal retention of classified documents.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:19 pm Friday news dump?

So both David Harbach (who tried cases against former U.S. Senator John Edwards and former Virginia Governor Robert F. McDonnell) and Jay Bratt (chief of DOJ’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section and long time national security prosecutor) are in Miami…

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:29 pm Pointer Sisters have been consulted, the Muse is sated, just waiting for Jack so I can drop one on you, FogBow.

1. I think I have another possible explanation for why there's another Trump grand jury in South Florida. After I skimmed through the #TaylorBudowich Jan 6th Committee transcript where his role in the Save America Pac was addressed I thought perhaps he lived
2. in Florida but I don't think he does. I think they are building a case about the PACs as a grift along with other fund raising activities that were the reason #45 started to plan the attack on Congress. But the reason they are in Florida, if this pans out, will blow
3. what's left of Trump's mind. Trump used MAL to commit crimes. I think they may be planning to seize it. From the new DOJ manual:

4. Venue for an 'in rem' civil forfeiture is clearly in that district. And in a civil forfeiture they can seize it before he's convicted if the property was used to commit crimes. Just like a drug smuggler's plane or boat.
5. And now I'm going to watch for a grand jury in New Jersey. Isn't that where he waived a purloined classified document bagging to all present about it?

Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:12 pm

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 1:29 pm Pointer Sisters have been consulted, the Muse is sated, just waiting for Jack so I can drop one on you, FogBow.

Are you so excited you just can’t hide it?