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A General thread for 2024 Presidential Elections

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:46 pm
by Suranis
That gets my :stamp: of agreement.

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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:04 am
by bob

Well, Uygur got his wish and can sue somebody. :roll:

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:49 pm
by Flatpoint High
and then, there's Flynn

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/10/mike ... e_vignette
"We've had enough, he declared. "We are running out of time."

He warned, "We have maybe one more year left before we have an election."

And here comes the projection: "Whether or not we have that election, this administration is going to play all kinds of games."

The only administration that played games was the Trump administration. Let's be real: The biggest concern with Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House is whether he will allow the 2024 election to be certified if Joe Biden wins it.
Video in post.

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:13 pm
by RTH10260
The author assumes that Mike Johnson survives a year in his new function. :violin:

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:29 pm
by Suranis
I have a feeling this invisible man is going to get ripped apart in weeks. There's going to be 15 people shouting in his ear demanding to control him and all shouting contradictory orders.

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:09 am
by Foggy
Good. :oldman:

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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:34 pm
by busterbunker
https://news.gallup.com/poll/513305/dem ... roval.aspx

Democrats' Rating of Biden Slips; Overall Approval at 37%
October 26, 2023
By Megan Brenan

President Joe Biden’s job approval rating among Democrats has tumbled 11 percentage points in the past month to 75%, the worst reading of his presidency from his own party. This drop has pushed his overall approval rating down four points to 37%, matching his personal low.

At the same time, Biden’s approval among independents has declined four points, to 35%, while Republicans’ rating remains unchanged, at just 5%.
...
Biden’s immediate and decisive show of support for Israel following the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas appears to have turned off some in his own party, resulting in Democrats’ worst assessment of the president since he took office. Biden’s overall approval rating likewise matches his personal low. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict comes at a time when Americans remain pessimistic about the economy, the Biden administration is struggling to deal with increasing numbers of migrants attempting to enter the country, and debate continues about how much aid to provide to Ukraine in its war with Russia.

As events in the Middle East continue to unfold and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza worsens, Biden’s guidance on Israel could affect not only the outcome of the war but also how he is viewed at home.

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:34 pm
by bob

Why would Uygur be attending this dumb ole meeting? First item on the November 2nd agenda:
NHBLC wrote:Appeal from Cenk Uygur regarding the decision of the Secretary of State not to place his name on democratic ballot for President of the United States.
Where's Taitz when you need her?

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:44 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
It's a birther wet dream! A candidate denied access to the ballot, thus ensuring standing! He's not even Puerto Rican, so SCOTUS has no reason to dodge the issue!

:yankyank: "Clean up on Aisle 45"

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:00 pm
by neonzx
I used find Cenk somewhat intelligent. :shrug: :smoking:

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:16 pm
by bob
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:44 pm It's a birther wet dream! A candidate denied access to the ballot, thus ensuring standing! He's not even Puerto Rican, so SCOTUS has no reason to dodge the issue!
Laity, "DeMaio," etc. believe Haley and Ramaswamy aren't natural-born citizens, but no one has challenged their ballot placements. :confuzzled:

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neonzx wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:00 pm I used find Cenk somewhat intelligent.
Intelligence and grifting aren't mutually exclusive.

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:21 pm
by SuzieC
busterbunker wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:34 pm
https://news.gallup.com/poll/513305/dem ... roval.aspx

Democrats' Rating of Biden Slips; Overall Approval at 37%
October 26, 2023
By Megan Brenan

President Joe Biden’s job approval rating among Democrats has tumbled 11 percentage points in the past month to 75%, the worst reading of his presidency from his own party. This drop has pushed his overall approval rating down four points to 37%, matching his personal low.

At the same time, Biden’s approval among independents has declined four points, to 35%, while Republicans’ rating remains unchanged, at just 5%.
...
Biden’s immediate and decisive show of support for Israel following the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas appears to have turned off some in his own party, resulting in Democrats’ worst assessment of the president since he took office. Biden’s overall approval rating likewise matches his personal low. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict comes at a time when Americans remain pessimistic about the economy, the Biden administration is struggling to deal with increasing numbers of migrants attempting to enter the country, and debate continues about how much aid to provide to Ukraine in its war with Russia.

As events in the Middle East continue to unfold and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza worsens, Biden’s guidance on Israel could affect not only the outcome of the war but also how he is viewed at home.
Says Gallup, whose poll response rate is 0.4%.

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:04 pm
by bob
NHBLC wrote:Appeal from Cenk Uygur regarding the decision of the Secretary of State not to place his name on democratic ballot for President of the United States.
Sit down: NHBLC denied Uygur's appeal.

The commission noted that Uygur tried to avoid a perjury trap by (essentially) deleting "natural-born" from his application. :fingerwag: Because Uygur didn't complete the form, he couldn't be a candidate.

It also noted that Uygur admitted to being an ineligible naturalized citizen, and briefly noted Hassan v. New Hampshire, which already rejected the argument that Uygur (and Ayyadurai) are recycling.

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:05 pm
by bob
Per 538 ABC, the next Republican debate likely will be between Christie, DeSantis, Haley, Ramaswamy; Scott is close to qualifying.

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:51 pm
by raison de arizona
Republican Accountability @AccountableGOP wrote: Asa Hutchinson on Donald Trump:

“We do not need to have a president that undermines our rule of law, that goes in the courtroom, as he did today in New York, and acts like a child, a petulant child.”

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:10 pm
by Slim Cognito
He ain't wrong. He may not have a snowball's chance in hell, but he ain't wrong.

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:26 pm
by bob
Sit down: NHBLC denied Uygur's appeal.
Even after NHBLC's decision, which explained all this, Uygur is still plugging the canard that the 14th Amendment somehow abrogated the natural-born-citizen clause:

It is as if Uygur isn't acting in good faith. :think:

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:37 am
by jez
Foggy wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:04 pm Those are the easy cases. Wait till we get the child of a US military family that was stationed in ... oh, say Cuba :mrgreen: and they had the child in hospital in Havana, not on a US military base.

'Course, birthers won't take a position without seeing the color of the child's skin. :blackeye:
I think was talked about. In this case, as long as one of the parents is a US Citizen, then it doesn't matter if they were born in Havana or Moscow. The birth does need to be registered with a consular report of a birth abroad (or something like that).

US Military bases are not considered US soil. They are leased from the host country. Now, a US Embassy (and I think Consulate) would be considered US soil, so to speak.

I think that was covered on a Wednesday in "Various Certificates of Birth 203" at the Fogbow University of Birthers and Other Stuff.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:21 am
by MsDaisy 2
Foggy wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 5:04 pm Those are the easy cases. Wait till we get the child of a US military family that was stationed in ... oh, say Cuba :mrgreen: and they had the child in hospital in Havana, not on a US military base.

'Course, birthers won't take a position without seeing the color of the child's skin. :blackeye:
That very thing happened to me in Japan. I woke up at 5 am and Brian was born at 5:30. They medevac’d us to the nearest military hospital but they couldn’t give us a birth certificate because he wasn’t born in the facility.

Talk about a pain in the ass! We had to go to the American Embassy and produce both our original birth certificates, which Stephan didn’t have, and a copy of his orders. The child was almost 7 months old before he finally got a birth certificate.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:06 am
by Foggy
They medevac’d us to the nearest military hospital but they couldn’t give us a birth certificate because he wasn’t born in the facility.
Umm ... so where was he born? In a helicopter? :confuzzled:

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:00 am
by MsDaisy 2
Foggy wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:06 am
They medevac’d us to the nearest military hospital but they couldn’t give us a birth certificate because he wasn’t born in the facility.
Umm ... so where was he born? In a helicopter? :confuzzled:
On the Base they had a little clinic for mostly walk in stuff, but if you need a hospital they fly you by helicopter to the main military hospital in Yokota that wasn't really that far away, but trying to drive anywhere in Japan is a can be a long slow process. We did make it to the clinic at Zama and he was born there like 5 minutes after we got there, but they weren't classified as a hospital and couldn't issue the paperwork needed for a birth certificate. My first child took 11 hours to arrive, with this one I woke up with a big cramp at 5am and he was born at 5:30.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:03 am
by neonzx
Was not John McCain born "off base"? I seem to recall that as an issue during the Obama nbc crisis.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:12 am
by MsDaisy 2
neonzx wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:03 am Was not John McCain born "off base"? I seem to recall that as an issue during the Obama nbc crisis.
Yep in Panama. We lived there too.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:13 am
by cjroberts
MsDaisy 2 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:12 am
neonzx wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:03 am Was not John McCain born "off base"? I seem to recall that as an issue during the Obama nbc crisis.
Yep in Panama. We lived there too.
I think in a 4-0 decision in 1984 McCain was declared a model citizen.

The Honorable David Lee Roth Presiding

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:06 pm
by bob
neonzx wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:03 am Was not John McCain born "off base"? I seem to recall that as an issue during the Obama nbc crisis.
Yes, and there was an interesting law review article that argued McCain wasn't born a U.S. citizen because he was born in an unincorporated territory. The law that retroactively made him a U.S. citizen could not have (the article argued) made him a natural-born citizen.

The few court decisions about McCain's eligibility focused on his parents' U.S. citizenship.