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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:56 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Today's SpaceX launch of a Starship experienced a "rapid unscheduled disassembly." Funny how that's what Musk is currently doing to Twitter.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:48 pm
by neonzx
chancery wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:43 pm Musk's bumptious threat provoked Popehat to make a brief return to twitter:

DoneHat
@Popehat
There are about fifty reasons your petulant flounce is nonsense, you emotionally spavined freak, but let’s start with the first clause of the first sentence: it’s 2023 and you e-file complaints now. You don‘t have to wait for the courthouse to be open. You utter vagina.
It is Pophat so I will allow it.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 pm
by noblepa
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:42 pm Here's a link to the story shown in the tweet above - Elon Musk to file ‘thermonuclear lawsuit’ as advertisers desert X
IANAL, but it seems to me that those companies are free to advertise on X or to not advertise on X. They have no legal obligation to advertise there, nor does X or Musk have legal right to their advertising dollars. They can withdraw their advertising for any reason, or no reason. It is entirely up to them.

Even if more than one advertiser communicated and together decided to withdraw their advertising, I'm not sure that that is illegal or an actionable tort that Elmo could sue over.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:00 pm
by Foggy
But he's not filing a regular lawsuit. He's filing a thermonuclear lawsuit, so that's different somehow.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:31 pm
by Reality Check
Foggy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:00 pm But he's not filing a regular lawsuit. He's filing a thermonuclear lawsuit, so that's different somehow.
A thermonuclear lawsuit filed by a vagina. Legal history could be made.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:33 pm
by MN-Skeptic
neonzx wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:48 pm
chancery wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:43 pm Musk's bumptious threat provoked Popehat to make a brief return to twitter:

DoneHat
@Popehat
There are about fifty reasons your petulant flounce is nonsense, you emotionally spavined freak, but let’s start with the first clause of the first sentence: it’s 2023 and you e-file complaints now. You don‘t have to wait for the courthouse to be open. You utter vagina.
It is Pophat so I will allow it.
We women want nothing to do with Musk. He's a dick. Not a vagina.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:36 pm
by Foggy
Sorry if anyone is trying to write the word p*u*s*s* etc., the word censor is set to prevent that word. Also the C word.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:42 pm
by bob
noblepa wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 pm
Even if more than one advertiser communicated and together decided to withdraw their advertising, I'm not sure that that is illegal or an actionable tort that Elmo could sue over.
There's always plain ole defamation.

Too also, in theory, it could be other causes of actions. Some jurisdictions recognize the torts of intentional interference with prospective economic advantage and intentional interference with contractual relations.

There are actually rather difficult to plead and prove, but, in Ahmurika, anybody can sue anybody for anything. :towel:

And if Klayman was filing this lawsuit, he'd shirley throw in some trademark claims or other such nonsense. Anything that a spaghetti shotgun could fire to see what sticks.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:55 pm
by neeneko
noblepa wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 pm IANAL, but it seems to me that those companies are free to advertise on X or to not advertise on X. They have no legal obligation to advertise there, nor does X or Musk have legal right to their advertising dollars. They can withdraw their advertising for any reason, or no reason. It is entirely up to them.
There is a bit of a trend with cultural 'free market' fighters that feel there are legitimate reasons to not do business and illegitimate reasons, and of course they decide which is which, thus if you decide not to give them money you are ruining capitalism. These are the same people who feel they get to decide what is offensive to others etc.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:19 pm
by Slim Cognito
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:33 pm
neonzx wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:48 pm
chancery wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:43 pm Musk's bumptious threat provoked Popehat to make a brief return to twitter:


It is Pophat so I will allow it.
We women want nothing to do with Musk. He's a dick. Not a vagina.
Damn straight. He lacks warmth and depth (as the saying goes).

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:35 pm
by Suranis
Foggy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:36 pm Sorry if anyone is trying to write the word p*u*s*s* etc., the word censor is set to prevent that word. Also the C word.
You guys deny yourselves perfectly good descriptive words by denying yourselves them. Just saying. Especially since People at Trumps Scottish Golf course used them all the time to describe him.

Edit, for the record, the word Popehat used started with T.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:47 pm
by Shizzle Popped
Off Topic
Not that this matters to this discussion at all, but I've been told that the T word is not all that offensive across the pond where it's much more widely used.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:58 pm
by Suranis
Shizzle Popped wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:47 pm
Off Topic
Not that this matters to this discussion at all, but I've been told that the T word is not all that offensive across the pond where it's much more widely used.
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Nope. It's basically just a more contemptuous version of "Twit."

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:12 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Suranis wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:58 pm
Shizzle Popped wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:47 pm
Off Topic
Not that this matters to this discussion at all, but I've been told that the T word is not all that offensive across the pond where it's much more widely used.
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Nope. It's basically just a more contemptuous version of "Twit."
I have heard cu** and fu** in conversations, but I have NEVER heard tw** spoken. It's just not said wherever I've been.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:26 pm
by Suranis
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https://www.joe.co.uk/life/a-definitive ... est-122544
A definitive ranking of every swear word from worst to best
FFS

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:28 pm
by chancery
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In deference to the precedent set in this discussion, I've asterisked the word in question in the quotation below.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/language ... 01814.html
In 1841, [the English poet Robert] Browning published the long dramatic poem Pippa Passes, now best known for the lines “God’s in His heaven/ All’s right with the world.” Toward the end of it, he sets up a kind of Gothic scene, and writes:

Then, owls and bats,
Cowls and tw*ts,
Monks and nuns, in a cloister’s moods,
Adjourn to the oak-stump pantry!

The second of these lines created no stir at all, presumably because the middle class had truly forgotten the word “tw*t” (just as it had forgotten “quaint,” so that Marvell’s pun on the two meanings in “To His Coy Mistress” has fallen flat for six or eight generations now). A few scholars must have recognized the word, but any who did behaved like loyal subjects when the emperor wore his new clothes, and discreetly said nothing. No editor of Browning has ever expurgated the line, even when Rossetti was diligently cutting mere “womb” out of Whitman.

The first response only came forty years later when the editors of the Oxford English Dictionary, collecting examples of usage, like Johnson before them, and interested to find a contemporary use of “tw*t,” wrote to Browning to ask in what sense he was using it. Browning is said to have written back that he used it to mean a piece of headgear for nuns, comparable to the cowls for monks he put in the same line. The editors are then supposed to have asked if he recalled where he had learned the word. Browning replied that he knew exactly. He had read widely in seventeenth-century literature in his youth, and in a broadside poem called “Vanity of Vanities”, published in 1659, he had found these lines, referring to an ambitious cleric:

They talk’t of his having a Cardinall’s Hat;
They’d send him as soon an Old Nun’s Tw*t.

If you are sufficiently delicate and sheltered, it is possible to take the last word as meaning something like a wimple, and Browning did. A fugitive and cloistered virtue can get into difficulties that even Milton didn’t think of.
I'll note that "cutting mere 'womb' out of Whitman" is ... a remarkable turn of phrase.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:20 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Suranis wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:26 pm
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https://www.joe.co.uk/life/a-definitive ... est-122544
A definitive ranking of every swear word from worst to best
FFS
Suranis - Have you actually heard of all of those words? A number of them are completely new to me in the U.S.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:38 pm
by roadscholar
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:33 pm
neonzx wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:48 pm
chancery wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:43 pm Musk's bumptious threat provoked Popehat to make a brief return to twitter:


It is Pophat so I will allow it.
We women want nothing to do with Musk. He's a dick. Not a vagina.
These type dicks are big defenders of freedom until other people's freedoms harm (or merely offend) them.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:25 pm
by Suranis
MN-Skeptic wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:20 pm
Suranis wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:26 pm
Off Topic
https://www.joe.co.uk/life/a-definitive ... est-122544
A definitive ranking of every swear word from worst to best
FFS
Suranis - Have you actually heard of all of those words? A number of them are completely new to me in the U.S.
Off Topic
About 85% of them I have, ya. Tho haven;t are way out there and very English. But then there is the good old Irish word "Gobshite," which isn't on it. Comes from the Irish for Mouth, "gob." You work out the rest.

And there is a local slang for travelers/Gypsys:- "Paveys."

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:39 pm
by Ben-Prime
Foggy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:00 pm But he's not filing a regular lawsuit. He's filing a thermonuclear lawsuit, so that's different somehow.
I think it involves WOPR/Joshua from Wargames.

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Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:53 pm
by Frater I*I
Ben-Prime wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:39 pm
Foggy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:00 pm But he's not filing a regular lawsuit. He's filing a thermonuclear lawsuit, so that's different somehow.
I think it involves WOPR/Joshua from Wargames.
Greetings Professor Musk....

A strange game...the only winning move is not to play....




I'll come in again... :bag:

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:09 am
by Sam the Centipede
Yeah, that's an English (as in England,, the country not the language) list. It has no Scots words. And no Irish feck!

For referernce, in GB, tw@t is multi-mraning, typically either female pudenda (rude) or to hit something or somebody (colloquial). "… then he twatted the prat." means "… following the altercation he punched the aforementioned annoying person."

F$nny is to be used carefully in Britain. Its meaning is identical anatomically to tw@t and similar, however non-American speakers of English are exposed to enough US entertainment that they recognize the mismatch. A f$nny pack became a bum bag in GB, bum meaning the gluteal region of a person's anatomy.

One can f£nny about meaning to engage in unproductive activity when more pressing or meritorious alternatives exist. One can also bum around, meaning to explore in a desultory fashion or very cheaply.

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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:29 pm
by Volkonski
Ron Filipkowski
@ronfilipkowski@bird.makeup
This is a post from Stephen Miller, who would have a senior role in a second Trump Admin, calling on Republican DAs to jail reporters with Media Matters because of their dispute with Musk.

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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:07 am
by Phoenix520
The Republicans practically invented the modern boycott, ffs. Gays allowed to enter Disneyland? Horrors! Boycott! Used a trans person in an ad campaign? Boycott!

This is a glorified boycott, more effective maybe than theirs but in their mold. How can they now say… oh, right. Never mind.

I really really hate this timeline.

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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:18 am
by keith
Foggy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:36 pm Sorry if anyone is trying to write the word p*u*s*s* etc., the word censor is set to prevent that word. Also the C word.
Sorry, I get to start at the right place, but I can't make it stop. Feel free to stop it after about 30 seconds.