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The order from Judge Maya Guerra Gamble halts the anti-abortion group Texas Right to Life and its associates from suing abortion providers and workers at Planned Parenthood clinics under Texas’s highly restrictive new abortion law, S.B. 8.

“The Court finds that S.B. 8 creates a probable, irreparable, and imminent injury in the interim for which plaintiffs and their physicians, staff and patients throughout Texas have no adequate remedy at law if plaintiffs, their physicians, and staff are subjected to private enforcement lawsuits against them under S.B. 8,” Gamble wrote.

The ruling applies only to the parties in the lawsuit and does not invalidate the new law, which prohibits abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which can occur as early as six weeks after a woman becomes pregnant.

But what exactly do we mean when we talk about a "fetal heartbeat" at six weeks of pregnancy? Although some people might picture a heart-shaped organ beating inside a fetus, this is not the case.

Rather, at six weeks of pregnancy, an ultrasound can detect "a little flutter in the area that will become the future heart of the baby," said Dr. Saima Aftab, medical director of the Fetal Care Center at Nicklaus Children's Hospital in Miami. This flutter happens because the group of cells that will become the future "pacemaker" of the heart gain the capacity to fire electrical signals, she said.

But the heart is far from fully formed at this stage, and the "beat" isn't audible; if doctors put a stethoscope up to a woman's belly this early on in her pregnancy, they would not hear a heartbeat, Aftab told Live Science. (What's more, it isn't until the eighth week of pregnancy that the baby is called a fetus; prior to that, it's still considered an embryo, according to the Cleveland Clinic.)

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:25 pm Thanks! Of course, the women haters will Shirley find another site post haste.

Texas abortion providers won a temporary restraining order against Texas Right to Life and its associates Friday, blocking them from suing providers and health care workers at Planned Parenthood health centers in the state under a new law.

Planned Parenthood sued the anti-abortion group in state court to stop the group from enforcing Texas’ new six-week abortion ban.

Texas’ six-week law creates a “probable, irreparable, and imminent injury in the interim” for Planned Parenthood, its physicians, staff, and patients throughout Texas, Judge Maya Guerra Gamble of the Texas District Court for Travis County wrote in the temporary restraining order.

Providers would have no adequate legal remedy for that injury if they’re subjected to private enforcement lawsuits against them, Gamble said.

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

bob wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:52 am

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

The law says we can, and has provided damages to incentivize suing.

A state court may eventually impute a harm requirement for those suing. "May" being operative.

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:13 am PS - the back of my head recalls a time when Republicans were all about tort reform, capping awards, and stopping frivilous lawsuits.

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:11 amDo I have to provide supporting evidence / findings / witnesses with my allegation?

If my case fails, does the defendant now have grounds to countersue for defamation?

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:02 pm

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

How do you prove someone had an abortion without violating HIPAA?

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:02 pm

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

How do you prove someone had an abortion without violating HIPAA?

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:25 pm

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:02 pm

bill_g wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:46 am Mrs asked a good question: on what grounds do we have to sue someone for their abortion? How did their abortion harm us?

How do you prove someone had an abortion without violating HIPAA?

I could be wrong, but I don't think, under the law, that the accuser has to prove the event. It's up to the defendant to prove her innocence.

Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:31 pm I'm in. Mask and all. I have my protest sign idea ready to go.

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(and the Halloween stores are opening. I can't wait to put this together.)

The Republican Party: Unregulated militias and highly regulated uteruses.

An online whistleblower portal created by an evangelical organization to punish anyone providing abortion services in Texas has reportedly found a new home alongside neo-Nazis and white supremacists after getting the boot Friday by hosting provider GoDaddy. Epik, a hosting provider that has in the past worked with other entities no one else would touch, has welcomed ProLifeWhistleblower.com to its client roster.

To facilitate enforcement of the law, Texas Right to Life set up a digital tip line that lets Texans file anonymous reports about suspected violations. When a user clicks on the site’s “Send an anonymous tip” button, a brief questionnaire appears asking for details. Users can also upload photos and video of any evidence that supports their claims. “We will not follow up with or contact YOU,” the site states.

GoDaddy had informed Texas Right to Life late Thursday that it would no longer be hosted, and to find another provider within 24 hours. After getting the boot from GoDaddy’s platform, ‘Epik’ welcomed ProLifeWhistleblower.com to its client roster, according to domain registration data cited by Ars Technica.

Epik’s CEO is a Dutch-American businessman in his 50s named Robert Monster—which is indeed his real name. In 2007, he found religion. One of Epik’s selling points was that it would work with anyone who could pay.
“I came to the deeply-researched conclusion that the God of the Bible is in fact the Creator of the Universe, and that the decision to accept the free gift of salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ is the path to eternal life,”

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:18 pm Things change fast.



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