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Collateral estoppel, how does it work?
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SIT DOWNraison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:49 pm I guess we know what happens now when yer pretty lawyer fakes being smart.
Also...
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1751008 ... 79768?s=20Acyn @Acyn wrote: Habba: You are not allowed to be told that you can't bring it up…
ps. ..... bring it up on appeal, that you on behalf of your client have been prohibited from throwing ketchup
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Well, she may be pretty now but she is almost forty so she will pass her sell by date (in Trump's opinion) very soon.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:05 pmI don't understand how she could have lost. She's pretty, right? Does that not count for anything anymore? What is this America we are living in?Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:04 pm Ya know....I'm starting to get the impression that this Habba lady might not be very good at this lawyerin' stuff....
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Yeah, has anyone else noticed that the damages for defamation against her were much higher than the damages for sexually assaulting her in the first place? I noticed that, but I will not object. If today's jury gave a little crossover penalty, there's no way to prove it.
In fact, I think pointing that out to him might help him with his blood pressure, which simply is not high enough.
Jeez, did it really shut him up for a while?
In fact, I think pointing that out to him might help him with his blood pressure, which simply is not high enough.
Jeez, did it really shut him up for a while?
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Life after "T" - will she qualify to serve cofeve at Bill Barrs collection of attorneys at law
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Always good advise to a jury that finds against a mob boss.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:56 pm https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/175100 ... 82847?s=20Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan wrote: Much more important than the 83 million dollar verdict is the recognition from a member of the U.S. judiciary that Trump and his supporters remain a violent threat to ordinary Americans.erica orden @eorden wrote: Judge Kaplan, to jurors: "My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury."
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Oh, he'll appeal. Grounds? What are those for?
https://x.com/BrianManookian/status/175 ... 99067?s=20
https://x.com/BrianManookian/status/175 ... 99067?s=20
Brian Manookian @BrianManookian wrote: Let me ruin the suspense for everyone. Trump doesn't have an appeal.
I know the talking heads on TV (who have never tried a case or appealed a jury verdict) have to mention it. Here's why it isn't going to fly.
To have a meritorious appeal, you have to preserve a reversible error at the trial level. This is why you hire competent counsel. You need someone who actually knows the rules of evidence and procedure.
Alina Habba had no clue what was occurring throughout the trial. She not only failed to preserve any remote grounds for appeal, like a moron, she repeatedly and unintentionally waived them over and over.
For example, she kept saying "no objection" as exhibits were entered into evidence.
It appeared to me that she was saying that because she that's something she had heard real lawyers say before.
Unfortunately for Mr. Trump, what she was doing over and over was waiving his ability to appeal over those evidentiary issues. Because she is a moron who would rather *play* lawyer than do the research to *be* a lawyer.
There's no appeal here. And because people have asked me in the past, no, there is no such thing as an incompetent counsel defense in civil cases. That's for criminal matters.
Take this verdict to the bank.
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Alina, you're a pretty little thing, but you're not a really smart lawyer. So I got Beck's Badasses from the Midgar slums here to explain what "compensatory damages" are. Let me know if this is a bit too intellectual for you.
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Shawn Crowley was just on with Chris Hayes. He announced that E. Jean and Robbie Kaplan will be on Rachel Maddow Monday night.
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That $90M he needs isn't going to grift itself.
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I know I'm very late on this response, but this is the first chance I've had to get to the computer.
I suspect that EJCarroll's chances of collecting anything from the orangeasshole are just about equal to me winning the $200million Australian Powerball jackpot this Thursday.
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Making Cofevee
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I expect her estate will eventually collect from his estate.
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Usually it's capped at 3x compensatory, correct? So likely about $57M after it gets reduced.
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Not mine, but seen elsewhere:
At this rate Melania will have to marry E Jean Carroll to see any of Trump’s money.
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At this rate Melania will have to marry E Jean Carroll to see any of Trump’s money.
Edit: more better English
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For most areas of law, there is no hard cap.W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:54 pm Usually it's capped at 3x compensatory, correct? So likely about $57M after it gets reduced.
But several courts have seemed to settle on an unofficial rule that anything over 4:1 (and sometimes 3:1) violates due process. But there are outlier cases (on either end).
And there are reasonable policy concerns that wealthy defendants won't be motivated by less-than-painful punitive damages.
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Some reddit lawyer claims the full judgment has to be put into court-controlled escrow before there can be an appeal.
I have no idea if that's factual, but it is entertaining.
I have no idea if that's factual, but it is entertaining.
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Heard by ways of MTN that he started truthing, and he gives himself shocked over this prosecution by Bidens goons, but he totally did not mention any names, no judge, no plaintiff.
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Just saw a great Robbie Kaplan interview with Anderson Cooper. She gives her take on the ratio for punative damages--she ways 6:1--and how much TFG will have to cough up for bond in order to appeal--20 percent.bob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:22 pmFor most areas of law, there is no hard cap.W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:54 pm Usually it's capped at 3x compensatory, correct? So likely about $57M after it gets reduced.
But several courts have seemed to settle on an unofficial rule that anything over 4:1 (and sometimes 3:1) violates due process. But there are outlier cases (on either end).
And there are reasonable policy concerns that wealthy defendants won't be motivated by less-than-painful punitive damages.
Here's a link to the interview. Must watch!
https://x.com/AC360/status/1751059241345974286?s=20
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Fun!
$83. 3 Million dollars that was the verdict! $83. 3 Million dollars Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll so pay up.... TRUMP!!
https://x.com/itsJohnWalsh/status/17510 ... 93616?s=20
$83. 3 Million dollars that was the verdict! $83. 3 Million dollars Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll so pay up.... TRUMP!!
https://x.com/itsJohnWalsh/status/17510 ... 93616?s=20
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I may be thinking of sanctions on attorneysbob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:22 pmFor most areas of law, there is no hard cap.W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:54 pm Usually it's capped at 3x compensatory, correct? So likely about $57M after it gets reduced.
But several courts have seemed to settle on an unofficial rule that anything over 4:1 (and sometimes 3:1) violates due process. But there are outlier cases (on either end).
And there are reasonable policy concerns that wealthy defendants won't be motivated by less-than-painful punitive damages.
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They exaggerate. He’s hardly Truthed anything and what he has was pretty tame.
So far.
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He's not the one who typed up that "Truth."
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