Gun Control

[RTH10260]

Fewer Americans support assault weapon ban: survey

Olafimihan Oshin
Mon, April 24, 2023 at 7:37 PM GMT+2

Less than half of Americans in a new Monmouth University Poll said they’ll support an assault weapons ban in the country, down from a similar poll taken last year.

The poll, published on Monday, found that 46 percent of respondents said they’d support the banning of future assault weapons sales in the country, while 49 percent of those surveyed said they would oppose a ban.

That marks a nine-point drop from the 55 percent of respondents who supported a ban in a June 2022 poll, which came in the wake of the Uvalde, Texas, school shooting, in which a teenage gunman with an AR-15 style rifle shot dead 19 students and two teachers.

This year has again seen a deadly string of mass shootings, including a shooting at a Christian school last month that left three students and three adults dead. The shooter had three guns, including an AR-15-style rifle, and reportedly fired 152 rounds during the attack.

The new poll found majority support for some other gun control measures.

Nearly three-quarters of respondents said they’ll support a federal red flag law that would allow police to temporarily take away the guns of someone who poses a threat to themselves or others. And 81 percent said they would support a measure requiring comprehensive background checks for all gun purchasers.

Asked whether U.S. states should be allowed to limit who can carry a concealed weapon by requiring permit applicants to demonstrate they need the weapon for their current employment or protection, 56 percent of respondents said yes.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/fewer-americ ... 08959.html

(original: The Hill)

[AndyinPA]

[RVInit]

Sadly, a large portion of our population just concerns themselves with the latest "new thing". Right after a slaughter those people have enough awareness to see that assault weapons are a problem in our country. A month later when gas prices are up 5 cents a gallon they are all angry about the economy. And a month later, it's something else. And it may not even take a month for most of them to rush to some other concern.

[raison de arizona]

Nothing could have been done to prevent this, tots and pears!

Mass Shootings 2023:

America ( Population 331million)
- 184

Mass Shootings 2023:
Germany
UK
France
Italy
Spain
( Tot. Population 325Million)
- 1

IT’S YOUR FUCKING GUNS!

[raison de arizona]

Warnock: "It is not right for us to live in a nation where nobody is safe no matter where they are. We're not safe in our schools. We're not safe in our workplaces. We're not safe in the grocery store... there's no sanctuary in the sanctuary... it's only a matter of time"

Warnock: "Thoughts and prayers are not enough. In fact, it is a contradiction to say you are thinking and praying and then do nothing. It is to make a mockery of prayer. It is to trivialize faith."

[Dave from down under]

Me: Gun control is easier with sane gun laws..

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-04/ ... /102302554

A Canberra man has been charged after police allegedly discovered five 3D-printed guns during raids at properties in the ACT and New South Wales.

Key points:
Police say they found the 3D-printed guns and other items during raids on properties in Turner, ACT and Braidwood, NSW
A 38 -year-old man faced a Canberra court today and pleaded not guilty to eight charges
He did not seek bail and was remanded in custody
Andrew Kay, 38, was charged with eight offences including five counts of unauthorised manufacture of guns and other gun and ammunition possession charges after the raids in Turner and Braidwood yesterday.

[Volkonski]

[raison de arizona]

[raison de arizona]

Good thing nobody put that wanker Kavanaugh in a position where he could do some real damage.

A new Supreme Court case seeks to legalize assault weapons in all 50 states
A case on the Court’s “shadow docket” could strike down state and local bans on AR-15s and similar weapons.

The Supreme Court could hand down a decision any day now in National Association for Gun Rights v. City of Naperville, a case that could legalize assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in all 50 states.

The case challenges a Naperville, Illinois, ordinance and a similar Illinois state law, both of which ban assault weapons, which the state law defines to include certain semiautomatic rifles such as AR-15s and AK-47s. Additionally, the state law prohibits the sale of a “large capacity ammunition feeding device,” which the statute defines as long gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, or handgun magazines that hold more than 15 bullets.

The plaintiffs, which include a gun shop owner and a gun rights group, claim the two statutes violate the Second Amendment.

Should the Supreme Court accept that argument and overturn these laws, it would have sweeping implications for the entire country. That decision would need to be followed throughout the entire nation — which would most likely mean that neither any state nor the US Congress could ban assault rifles or high-capacity magazines.

And there is good reason to fear that this Court could, at the very least, decide to make semiautomatic assault rifles legal throughout the United States. In 2011, a federal appeals court upheld the District of Columbia’s ban on assault weapons — over the dissent of an up-and-coming right-wing judge named Brett Kavanaugh.

Although the Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) permitted lawmakers to ban “dangerous and unusual weapons,” Kavanaugh read that decision narrowly in his 2011 opinion. He reasoned that semiautomatic rifles are neither more dangerous than lawful weapons such as handguns, nor are they especially unusual — among other things, he argued that at the time of his opinion, “about two million semi-automatic AR-15 rifles have been manufactured.”

https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/5/9/2 ... -kavanaugh

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18-to-20-year-olds can’t be barred from buying handguns, judge rules

By Salvador Rizzo
Updated May 11, 2023 at 6:29 p.m. EDT|Published May 11, 2023 at 3:02 p.m. EDT

A federal judge in Virginia has declared unconstitutional a set of laws and regulations that prohibit federally licensed firearms dealers from selling handguns to 18-to-20-year-olds, finding that the measures violated the Second Amendment.

“Because the statutes and regulations in question are not consistent with our Nation’s history and tradition, they, therefore, cannot stand,” U.S. District Judge Robert E. Payne, who sits in Richmond, concluded in a 71-page opinion.

Gun-control advocates say the decision, if allowed to stand, would significantly increase gun access for a population that research shows is more impulsive and responsible for a disproportionate number of fatal shootings. But attorneys on both sides of the case said they expected the Justice Department to appeal and request a stay, which would prevent Payne’s ruling from taking effect while higher courts weigh the case.

Elliott M. Harding, the attorney who argued to nullify the laws and regulations, said people under 21 years old are, for the moment, not allowed to purchase handguns from licensed dealers because a final order had not been entered. The judge set a May 18 deadline for attorneys to submit recommendations “for future proceedings in this matter.”

Although 18-to-20-year-olds previously could buy handguns in private sales — or have a parent purchase a weapon for them — the decision issued Wednesday would dismantle a legal framework that for decades has prevented licensed dealers from selling handguns “to teenagers,” said William T. Clark, an attorney with the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which filed an amicus brief in the case calling for the laws at issue to be upheld.

“It’s a significant decision — we disagree with the outcome,” Clark said, adding that “there is compelling scientific evidence showing that teenagers are more impulsive and face unique elevated dangers from firearms.”

Attorneys in the case noted that 18-year-olds already were allowed to purchase some firearms such as shotguns and rifles — but not handguns sold by the nation’s nearly 53,000 licensed dealers, as tallied by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).




https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... year-olds/

[raison de arizona]

What happened to "enforce the laws we have"? Now we're just about overturning them all, damn the torpedoes.

[neeneko]

What happened to "enforce the laws we have"? Now we're just about overturning them all, damn the torpedoes.

I guess now there are no laws, only 'tradition' and the fight to decide who's tradition is the law of the land.

[Dave from down under]

And the winner will be the merchants of death and their pocket political operatives

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After school shooting, Tennessee governor signs bill to shield gun firms further against lawsuits

By JONATHAN MATTISE
today

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee has signed off on additional protections for gun and ammunition dealers, manufacturers and sellers against lawsuits within a bill that lawmakers passed after a deadly school shooting in March.

The Republican governor quietly signed the legislation Thursday. Its provisions kick in on July 1.

The state Senate gave final passage to the bill in mid-April, just weeks after the March 27 shooting at The Covenant School in Nashville that killed six people, including three 9-year-olds. The House had passed it before the shooting.

Lee’s choice to sign the bill comes as he keeps pushing for the same Republican lawmakers, who hold supermajorities in the House and Senate, to pass a proposal that aims to keep guns away from people who could harm themselves or others. Lee plans to call lawmakers back into an August special session that aims “to strengthen public safety and preserve constitutional rights” after they adjourned last month without taking up his “temporary mental health order of protection” proposal. His office hasn’t released the parameters of what version of that proposal, or others, will be considered in the session yet.

The expansion of civil immunity for gun companies was hardly in doubt after lawmakers passed it. Lee has never issued a veto, which lawmakers would have the numbers to override. However, he occasionally has allowed bills to take effect without his signature to signal his concerns or disapproval of a policy.

Democratic lawmakers have blasted the move to prioritize legal protections to the gun industry in the wake of the shooting. Three Senate Republicans voted against the legislation, which came before them in the middle of weeks of public pressure, protests and marches to pass gun control reforms. Only Democrats opposed the bill in the House vote before the shooting.

“With regards to the law, the GOP supermajority is more focused on protecting firearms and manufacturers and dealers than protecting our children and communities,” Rep. John Ray Clemmons, the House Democratic caucus chairman from Nashville, said in an interview Monday.

The bill’s sponsor, Republican Sen. Joey Hensley from Hohenwald, said during a floor debate last month that his legislation doesn’t prevent any other proposal from passing to make changes after the shooting. He said the bill aims to help out businesses in Tennessee’s booming firearms industry.

The Tennessee bill spells out a half-dozen situations in which gun and ammo companies could be held civilly liable in Tennessee state courts, exempting others.




https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-gu ... ddb292d8a6

[raison de arizona]

Good to see some action, not just thoughts and prayers.

Oh wait...

[raison de arizona]

My kid would stop riding the bus.

Serious question to conservatives: if another parent at this bus stop felt threatened - I mean, there’s a creepy guy with an assault rifle everyday at your kid’s bus stop! - would they be justified in coming from behind and choking him to death? Or no? Just wondering.

Tonight on @wbaltv11: A man with an AR-15 has been showing up for weeks to a school bus drop off for local elementary school students.
Parents say their kids are afraid, the man says he’s protesting @GovWesMoore’s new gun control law. You’ll hear from both sides at 5+6pm.

A reminder, Jordan Neely was allegedly being ‘threatening’ but wasn’t carrying an assault rifle. (Or any kind of weapon.)

[Dave from down under]

The kids who are feeling threatened should just gun him down - they would not be convicted if they could sneeze-cry as needed.

[AndyinPA]

[keith]

What the hell are we doing crying about a few grade schoolers getting shot once in a while?

6000 teens are dying EVERY DAY from smoking pot and you are belling aching about a little lead poisoning?

[neeneko]

The kids who are feeling threatened should just gun him down - they would not be convicted if they could sneeze-cry as needed.

All they have to do is make sure to shoot him while he is down, then it is their word against his that he raised his gun and looked like he was going to shoot.

[Dave from down under]

The kids who are feeling threatened should just gun him down - they would not be convicted if they could sneeze-cry as needed.

All they have to do is make sure to shoot him while he is down, then it is their word against his that he raised his gun and looked like he was going to shoot.

Shoot him 4 times to make sure he is dead and he won’t be able to testify…. You can make up whatever lies you like about his threatening actions snd how you felt scared…

Then, since he is a POC, and some murder supporter will find that a person with a similar name and/or appearance once had been suspected of connection to a crime, and/or mental health issue and that will boost your GiveSendGo grift into the millions and then their will be the TV paid appearances, the sponsorship from gun and ammo and coffee sellers etc etc.

After all you were afraid and just so happened to have a gun for hunting or show & tell or just because the 2A need for a well regulated citizen army has been pretzeled into a license to terrorise/maim/kill.

[Gregg]

What the hell are we doing crying about a few grade schoolers getting shot once in a while?

6000 teens are dying EVERY DAY from smoking pot and you are belling aching about a little lead poisoning?

I'm speechless. Are there really people this stupid outside of institutions? I've spilled more that that out of the end of a badly rolled joint before, sure as hell no one ever died from that much.

[pipistrelle]

If 6,000 teens were dying every day, it'd be bigger news.

Edit: That's 2,190,000 a year.

[neeneko]

I'm speechless. Are there really people this stupid outside of institutions? I've spilled more that that out of the end of a badly rolled joint before, sure as hell no one ever died from that much.

Looking at some of their other posts, it really looks like a joke to me. Another image was of a pair of steaks and a captain claiming that a single joint will make your lungs look like this. And another saying pot caused 9/11. A real whackjob christian twitter would be unlikely to pass up the opportunity to blame jews or satanists or muslims or catholics for 9/11.

[pipistrelle]

I'm speechless. Are there really people this stupid outside of institutions? I've spilled more that that out of the end of a badly rolled joint before, sure as hell no one ever died from that much.

Looking at some of their other posts, it really looks like a joke to me. Another image was of a pair of steaks and a captain claiming that a single joint will make your lungs look like this. And another saying pot caused 9/11. A real whackjob christian twitter would be unlikely to pass up the opportunity to blame jews or satanists or muslims or catholics for 9/11.

Yeah, I doubt anyone believes 2 million teens die a year from pot. That you have to check is another indicator we're in an alternative timeline.