Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

Who is next to get the ax?

Alex Azar, Health and Horrible Services
4
11%
Stephen Miller, Senior Adviser for Bad Policy
1
3%
Jared Kushner, Prince of the Realm
1
3%
Kellyanne Conway, Yappin' Fool
1
3%
Dr. Benjamin Carson, Secretary of Sleepy Housing and Urban Destruction
0
No votes
Daniel Coats, DNI
4
11%
Mike Pompeo, Secretary of Stating Bullshit
0
No votes
John Bolton, Nationable Insecurity Bad-Advisor
3
8%
Chris Wray, Misdirector of the Federal Bureau of Investimagation
7
19%
Jimmy Down the Hall
15
42%
 
Total votes: 36

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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Turtle » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:11 pm

Nielsen’s allies trying to rehab her image for life after Trump


By ANDREW RESTUCCIA and DANIEL LIPPMAN 04/09/2019 06:50 PM EDT

Kirstjen Nielsen’s image makeover has already begun—but it may be a hard sell.

Just days after she announced plans to resign as Homeland Security secretary, Nielsen and her allies are working to rehabilitate her reputation, arguing that she’s not the heartless villain depicted by liberal critics already pressuring big companies not to hire her.

Almost as soon as word of her resignation under pressure leaked, Nielsen’s allies began spinning a narrative of her tenure that casts her not as an enabler of President Donald Trump’s most controversial immigration policies, but as a guardrail against even more extreme action.

In particular, they stressed that the policy for which Nielsen is most fiercely reviled — separating detained migrant children from their parents — gave her no pleasure, and that she slow-walked or resisted other Trump demands on border security.

“I think Nielsen has been treated unfairly. A caricature was created by people who oppose the way the President talks about immigration or who even oppose current immigration law that’s been on the books for decades — and that caricature is nothing like the person she actually is,” said Thad Bingel, a former George W. Bush administration Homeland Security official who helped guide Nielsen through her Senate confirmation.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/ ... mp-1264131

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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Turtle » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:20 pm

Rosenstein just resigned. Not sure if it's really under the bus, he's just trying to get outta there with his pension.

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Post by pipistrelle » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:35 pm

I thought he had already resigned but yeah one theory is the sucking up was partly related to pension.

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Post by tek » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:07 am

He needs to get a head start on his image-rehabilitation tour.

Which isn't gonna work.
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Post by Orlylicious » Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 pm

What a shock, David Bossie was ripping off old people. Now Donald is distancing himself. They are all liars and conmen and frauds.
Trump campaign distances itself from David Bossie over alleged scam
Trump’s longtime friend was accused of using his political group to scam elderly Republican voters for his own financial gain.
By GABBY ORR and DANIEL LIPPMAN 05/07/2019 05:47 PM EDT Updated 05/07/2019 06:36 PM EDT

The Trump campaign is distancing itself from one of its highest-profile supporters, David Bossie, two days after the president’s longtime friend was accused of using his political group to scam elderly Republican voters for his own financial gain. “President Trump’s campaign condemns any organization that deceptively uses the President’s name, likeness, trademarks, or branding and confuses voters,” the campaign said in a statement on Tuesday. “We encourage the appropriate authorities to investigate all alleged scam groups for potential illegal activities,” it added.

The statement did not mention Bossie by name but appeared to be a clear rebuke of his group, the President Coalition, which added $18.5 million to its coffers from 2017 to 2018 after promising donors it was “dedicated to identifying and supporting conservative candidates running for office at the state and local levels of government.” Fundraising materials produced by the group often featured images of the White House and of Bossie and Trump together.

According to Internal Revenue Service filings first reported by Axios on Sunday, only $425,442 of the $15.4 million that Bossie’s group spent over the past two years went toward boosting conservative political candidates by contributing to their own committees or running supportive advertisements. The remaining money was spent on outside consultants with close ties to Bossie and on books he authored with Corey Lewandowski, the former manager of Trump’s 2016 campaign. The two men have remained close to Trump since his victory, and have penned two books together about his campaign and presidency.

Following the release of the campaign’s statement on Tuesday, a White House official said Trump was furious to learn of Bossie’s alleged scheme and demanded that his former deputy campaign manager be publicly scolded. This literally came from the top,” added a person close to the White House, who said that Trump himself “was pissed that this was the equivalent of taking from him.” The campaign statement was intended to “make it very clear that [Bossie] is persona non grata,” the person said. A person familiar with the president’s thinking said Trump was “apoplectic“ when he learned about what Bossie’s group is accused of doing. A top adviser to the Trump campaign said: “The thing Trump hates is for anyone to make money off his name. He hates others using the Trump name for personal gain. He’s a branding and marketing genius. Rule number one of brand marketing is to be in control of your brand at all times.“
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In its statement Tuesday, the Trump campaign excluded Bossie’s group from a list of “four official fundraising organizations” approved by Trump or the Republican National Committee that exist in addition to America First Action, a White House-aligned group described by the campaign as “a trusted supporter of President Trump’s policies and agendas.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... ie-1309709

Crooks, liars and thieves. No wonder David and Donald were friends. But now that there's trouble... David who?


ETA: Added highlighting of Gregg's comment below which is absolutely the point, he's right on target.
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Post by Gregg » Tue May 07, 2019 9:22 pm

So let's be clear. He couldn't care less that a bunch of old people got ripped off. No problem with someone funneling all the money into consultants and assorted grifts.

He's ''apoplectic'' because he didn't get a cut, they used his brand without pay him any royalties.
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Post by Turtle » Tue May 07, 2019 9:50 pm

President Trump’s campaign condemns any organization that deceptively uses the President’s name, likeness, trademarks, or branding and confuses voters
Does this include the White House? Cause this is pretty much what they do every day.

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Post by Somerset » Tue May 07, 2019 10:15 pm

Turtle wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:50 pm
President Trump’s campaign condemns any organization that deceptively uses the President’s name, likeness, trademarks, or branding and confuses voters
Does this include the White House? Cause this is pretty much what they do every day.
Define "White House."

As Gregg mentioned, the crime is using the OSGs brand without the OSG personally profiting from it.

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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Turtle » Wed May 08, 2019 12:53 am

Somerset wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 10:15 pm
Turtle wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:50 pm
President Trump’s campaign condemns any organization that deceptively uses the President’s name, likeness, trademarks, or branding and confuses voters
Does this include the White House? Cause this is pretty much what they do every day.
Define "White House."

As Gregg mentioned, the crime is using the OSGs brand without the OSG personally profiting from it.
It would include anyone who stands behind the seal and says things like lying isn't lying, or what POTUS said wasn't actually what POTUS said, etc. Including the man himself, since he's trying to merge his personal brand with the office.

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Post by Chilidog » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:59 pm

Who had Emmet Flood?

Does he count?

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Post by Kendra » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:15 pm

Gregg wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:22 pm
So let's be clear. He couldn't care less that a bunch of old people got ripped off. No problem with someone funneling all the money into consultants and assorted grifts.

He's ''apoplectic'' because he didn't get a cut, they used his brand without pay him any royalties.
That's how I read it.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:24 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:59 pm
Who had Emmet Flood?

Does he count?
Who ever heard of him?? Seriously.
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Post by HST's Ghost » Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:08 pm

I doubt Bolton will get bounced for the reasons pointed out here, but I imagine there will be constant tension between Bolton talking "tough", which Trump likes, and actually backing it up, especially in regards to NorKor and Iran.
Bye bye Bolton?
The president is disenchanted with his national security adviser. Again.

:snippity: :snippity:

This brings us to national security adviser John Bolton. Reports about dissatisfaction with Bolton have been percolating for a while now. As Bolton husbanded control of the national security decision-making process, resentment among other policy principals has grown. There have been multiple accounts of friction between Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that have little to do with policy and everything to do with style. After the failed transition in Venezuela, my Post colleagues Anne Gearan, Josh Dawsey, John Hudson and Seung Min Kim noted “The president’s dissatisfaction has crystallized around national security adviser John Bolton and what Trump has groused is an interventionist stance at odds with his view that the United States should stay out of foreign quagmires.”

:snippity: :snippity:

So, is Bolton on the way out? Color me skeptical, for a few reasons. First of all, Trump will find it difficult to get rid of Bolton through measures short of firing him. Trump will often try to humiliate an official into departing the administration. This tactic does not have a high success rate anyway, but will definitely not work on the national security adviser. As Baker and Haberman note, Bolton “does not appear to care much about being liked.” He does not crave Trump’s approval and can likely tolerate any abuse thrown in his direction.

More importantly, this is Bolton’s last bite at the policymaking apple. It would be hard for him to win a Senate-confirmable position even now, so it is national security adviser or bust for him. At 70 years old, he will hold on to power until someone physically ejects him from the White House.

Second of all, Trump is more constrained in his options that it might seem at first glance. If Trump fires Bolton, he will be on his fourth national security adviser in his first two-and-a-half years in office. That is not a good look for a commander in chief who wants to claim in 2020 that his administration is running so smoothly.

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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Foggy » Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:32 am

Chilidog wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:59 pm
Who had Emmet Flood?

Does he count?
If he counted, he was Jimmet Down the Hall.

Reset the poll again, dropped Rosenstein (he was already gone) and added Pompeo and Shanahan. As always suggestions are welcome but you can only have 10 options in a poll.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:14 am

Bolton probably ought to be on there, he has gotten cross ways with Big Daddy and isn't keeping up.
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Post by Foggy » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:16 am

Yeah. :thumbs:

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Post by pipistrelle » Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:28 am

I don't see Miller leaving. He hits all the sweet spots for Trump. Except for the chia pet appearance, am I right thinking he knows to stay in the background?

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Post by jemcanada » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:49 am

I chose Pompeo because of North Korea. Drumpf will be upset that Kim Jong Un got to execute his people and he can’t. Just trying to think like an insane, enraged orange buffoon. :-D

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Post by MojoSapien » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:36 pm

Tom Lehrer

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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Dan1100 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:42 pm

jemcanada wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:49 am
I chose Pompeo because of North Korea. Drumpf will be upset that Kim Jong Un got to execute his people and he can’t. Just trying to think like an insane, enraged orange buffoon. :-D
I see Trump shooting James Franco, Seth Rogen, or one of the South Park guys with a anti-aircraft cannon to show Kim Jong Un and MBS that he is a really bigly powerful just like they are.
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Post by Gregg » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:26 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:42 pm
jemcanada wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:49 am
I chose Pompeo because of North Korea. Drumpf will be upset that Kim Jong Un got to execute his people and he can’t. Just trying to think like an insane, enraged orange buffoon. :-D
I see Trump shooting James Franco, Seth Rogen, or one of the South Park guys with a anti-aircraft cannon to show Kim Jong Un and MBS that he is a really bigly powerful just like they are.

Pfft, he'll do Alec Baldwin on Fox News, with Naval Gunnery.

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Post by tek » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:43 pm

Someone needs to do a new version of the game "Clue" ;)
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Post by Slim Cognito » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:54 pm

tek wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:43 pm
Someone needs to do a new version of the game "Clue" ;)
OMG, that's the best idea since taco trucks on every corner. Who brought trump down?

Was it Putin in the Kremlin with the peepee tape?

Was it Nadler in the Judiciary Committee with the unredacted Mueller report?

Was it Comey in the impeachment hearings because, goddamn it, he owes us?
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Re: Who's going to be the NEXT one under the bus?

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Post by Maybenaut » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:29 pm

It’s Jimmy down the hall again!

Economic Advisor Kevin Hassett

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... 35c9aad7c7
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Post by PaulG » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:09 am

tek wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:43 pm
Someone needs to do a new version of the game "Clue" ;)
Let's drop the "room" bit and replace it with orifice!

ETA Let's combine Clue with Operation!

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