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And I've come to think that if the president did literally shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue, he'd still poll in the mid-20s. The MAGA crowd would scream, "Fake news!", Barr would clear him, and McConnell would declare "case closed."

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And Trump starts spinning-
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Real estate developers in the 1980’s & 1990’s, more than 30 years ago, were entitled to massive write offs and depreciation which would, if one was actively building, show losses and tax losses in almost all cases. Much was non monetary. Sometimes considered “tax shelter,” ......

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....you would get it by building, or even buying. You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes....almost all real estate developers did - and often re-negotiate with banks, it was sport. Additionally, the very old information put out is a highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!
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.@realDonaldTrump and Jared Kushner's alleged failure to keep correspondence, records and notes from mtgs with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un & Saudi royalty have spurred a new lawsuit by watchdog @CREWcrew. My story:
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-su ... l-records/
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Volkonski wrote:
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And Trump starts spinning-
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Real estate developers in the 1980’s & 1990’s, more than 30 years ago, were entitled to massive write offs and depreciation which would, if one was actively building, show losses and tax losses in almost all cases. Much was non monetary. Sometimes considered “tax shelter,” ......

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....you would get it by building, or even buying. You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes....almost all real estate developers did - and often re-negotiate with banks, it was sport. Additionally, the very old information put out is a highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!
For me - I worked on taxes for quite a while - this is factually correct and not "spinning ". Write-offs - esp. on buildings - are a complicated matter and offer lots of loopholes to avoid paying taxes (at the moment).

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Volkonski wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 7:44 am
Brandi Buchman @BBuchman_CNS

.@realDonaldTrump and Jared Kushner's alleged failure to keep correspondence, records and notes from mtgs with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un & Saudi royalty have spurred a new lawsuit by watchdog @CREWcrew. My story:
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-su ... l-records/
Why are the Israeli not included in this list?

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RTH10260 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:21 am
Volkonski wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 7:44 am
Brandi Buchman @BBuchman_CNS

.@realDonaldTrump and Jared Kushner's alleged failure to keep correspondence, records and notes from mtgs with Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un & Saudi royalty have spurred a new lawsuit by watchdog @CREWcrew. My story:
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-su ... l-records/
Why are the Israeli not included in this list?
Because if you say a politician did something improper involving the government of the State of Israel, you will immediately be targeted as an anti-Semite. That's been the playbook of Netanyahu and the Likudnik right in Israel for a while now. Conflate the Israeli government and its policies with Judaism as an ethno-religious identity to maximum extent possible, such that it becomes impossible to criticize stealing land from the Palestinians or treating Arab-Israelis as second-class citizens without being accused of hating Jews. I don't blame CREW for leaving Israel off the list.
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Post by Gregg » Wed May 08, 2019 4:01 pm

Hurtzi wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 8:51 am
Volkonski wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 7:43 am
And Trump starts spinning-
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....you would get it by building, or even buying. You always wanted to show losses for tax purposes....almost all real estate developers did - and often re-negotiate with banks, it was sport. Additionally, the very old information put out is a highly inaccurate Fake News hit job!
For me - I worked on taxes for quite a while - this is factually correct and not "spinning ". Write-offs - esp. on buildings - are a complicated matter and offer lots of loopholes to avoid paying taxes (at the moment).

But the losses don't show up where deductions for depreciation would show up, he didn't have ever increasing losses of tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars, as a tax strategy, he lost that much (of mostly his bank's money, BTW) because he sucked at running businesses.
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Times are tough all over
Putin, battling ratings slump, reviews Red Square military parade
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Post by ZekeB » Thu May 09, 2019 6:56 am

That's what Putin gets for getting cozy with the likes of Trump.
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Post by Suranis » Thu May 09, 2019 6:58 am

Everything Trump touches dies.
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Post by MN-Skeptic » Thu May 09, 2019 12:29 pm

A second ghostwriter - Charles Leerhsen - who wrote Trump's "Surviving at the Top" in 1990, has written an article for Yahoo titled Exclusive: Trump, the billion-dollar loser — I was his ghostwriter and saw it happen. A few paragraphs:
I happen to know, because from late 1988 to 1990, I was his ghostwriter, working on a book that would be called “Surviving at the Top.” Right in the middle of this period, I can tell you that the answer is that he was neither. Except for an occasional passing look of queasiness, or anger, when someone came into his Trump Tower office and whispered the daily win/loss numbers at his Atlantic City casinos, he seemed to be bored out of his mind.

I tend to see my time with him — the first part of it, anyway, before things started going bad in a hurry — as his “King Midas” period. I never said this to him; if I had, he probably would have thought I was suggesting he enter the muffler business. But there was a stretch of months when everything he touched turned into a deal. The banks seemed to accept the version of him depicted in his first book, “The Art of the Deal,” which we now know from his previous ghostwriter, Tony Schwartz, was entirely invented. They believed it over what they saw on his balance sheets or heard coming out of his mouth, and they never said no to his requests for more money. Often they came up with things he could say yes to before he could think of them himself. As a result, a failing real estate developer who had little idea of what he was doing and less interest in doing it once he’d held the all-important press conference wound up owning three New Jersey hotel-casinos, the Plaza Hotel, the Eastern Airlines Shuttle and a 281-foot yacht.

A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, the management of hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t. One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night, and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.
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Post by Clairez » Thu May 09, 2019 12:44 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote:
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The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.
He would have to be. I could never endure the number of legal problems and legal entanglements that he has caused for himself. Anything legal scares me. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night or eat a peaceful meal. How someone manages to shut off all the noise and fear is beyond my comprehension.

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Post by Volkonski » Thu May 09, 2019 2:49 pm

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Trump just called for John Kerry to be prosecuted for violating the Logan Act.

Ironically when it appeared that Michael Flynn and other Trump associates violated the Logan Act, Trump’s allies argued (correctly) that there had never been a successful Logan Act prosecution.

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Post by Volkonski » Fri May 10, 2019 11:01 am

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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri May 10, 2019 11:27 am

Insert casino clip from Casablanca here.
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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 pm

Here is the story as it was actually reported by golf.com.

It bears a passing resemblance to the other one, but just barely.
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Post by neonzx » Fri May 10, 2019 2:05 pm

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 1:33 pm
Here is the story as it was actually reported by golf.com.
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Shitty mounting job, on spacing and alignment, the screw job is like what I see from careless end-of-day workers wanting to go home.
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Fri May 10, 2019 2:09 pm

neonzx wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 2:05 pm
Shitty mounting job, on spacing and alignment, the screw job is like what I see from careless end-of-day workers wanting to go home.
Or Trump-employed undocumented immigrants wanting to leave before ICE arrives.
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Post by Chilidog » Fri May 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Or he made Baron do it

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In a lawsuit filed by a former Trump campaign staffer claiming unwanted sexual contact, Trump has moved to strike sections of the complaint that reference allegations he harassed/preyed on other women and things he's said i.e. the Access Hollywood tape https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... Strike.pdf

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Trump's lawyers also want the court to strike the plaintiff's request for an order barring Trump "from grabbing, kissing or otherwise assaulting or harassing women without prior express consent," arguing the law doesn't provide for that kind of relief
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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri May 10, 2019 5:36 pm

Volkonski wrote:
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In a lawsuit filed by a former Trump campaign staffer claiming unwanted sexual contact, Trump has moved to strike sections of the complaint that reference allegations he harassed/preyed on other women and things he's said i.e. the Access Hollywood tape https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... Strike.pdf

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Trump's lawyers also want the court to strike the plaintiff's request for an order barring Trump "from grabbing, kissing or otherwise assaulting or harassing women without prior express consent," arguing the law doesn't provide for that kind of relief
How likely is that to happen?
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Post by Dan1100 » Fri May 10, 2019 6:12 pm

Slim Cognito wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 5:36 pm
Volkonski wrote:
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In a lawsuit filed by a former Trump campaign staffer claiming unwanted sexual contact, Trump has moved to strike sections of the complaint that reference allegations he harassed/preyed on other women and things he's said i.e. the Access Hollywood tape https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... Strike.pdf

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Trump's lawyers also want the court to strike the plaintiff's request for an order barring Trump "from grabbing, kissing or otherwise assaulting or harassing women without prior express consent," arguing the law doesn't provide for that kind of relief
How likely is that to happen?
On the striking sections of the complaint, probably yes. The complaint is just for "a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief" https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_8 All the stuff about other women and his prior statements are evidence that may be admissible, but for the complaint, it's extra stuff that doesn't need to be there. The judge may strike it (and I was taught not to do that because you are previewing your case to the defendant unnecessarily, and if they want to know what your evidence is going to be that's what discovery is for).

The request for an order, I'm not so sure. Does she have standing to ask for an injunction for all women, or just herself?
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