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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:10 am

Spicer is a lying clown for Donald. It's outrageous the President sent him out there to lie. Total fail on a softball, it was stupid Donald who brought this up at the CIA.

Former CIA Director John Brennan was reportedly "deeply saddened" by President Trump's remarks at the Central Intelligence Agency on Saturday. According to former CIA deputy chief of staff Nick Shapiro, Brennan believes that Trump "should be ashamed of himself" for his "display of self-aggrandizement."8 hours ago
Ex-CIA director: Trump should be ashamed of himself | TheHill
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This says largest protest ever, haven't fact checked that but wow on how much of the USA participated.
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Post by Lani » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:35 am

I think that graph is missing a lot of marches. Friends in AK posted photos from several towns, including a little village of 400 with 100 protesting. Several thousand marched in Anchorage in a snowstorm. An acquaintance in South Dakota said 3 towns had marches, not 1. 5 marches in Hawaii despite rain and high winds with about 5000 in Honolulu.

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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:09 am

Trump brains hard at work. Since two years he wants to overthrow Obamacare and still cannot outline to his GOP legislators his ideas.
GOP waiting to hear from Trump on ObamaCare
BY SCOTT WONG - 01/21/17 10:31 AM EST 503

Don’t expect President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans to roll out their ObamaCare replacement plan next week at their joint House and Senate GOP retreat in Philadelphia.

Healthcare is expected to dominate the three-day gathering that kicks off Wednesday. But GOP lawmakers attending Trump’s presidential inauguration Friday said they likely won’t settle on a complete replacement strategy by the time the retreat wraps up.

Trump recently said he’d pitch his own plan to replace President Obama’s healthcare law that includes “insurance for everybody.” And Republicans on Capitol Hill said they want to hear directly from Trump and Vice President Pence before they move forward.

“I don’t think so,” Rep. Pat Tiberi (R-Ohio), a senior member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, replied when asked if Republicans would finalize their replacement plan in Philadelphia.

“It’s critically important to find out what the president is prepared to do. He has said he’s working on a plan that is going to come out when [Health and Human Services nominee Tom Price] is put in place. I just think we don’t want to get ahead of him.”
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Post by GreatGrey » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:20 am

Orlylicious wrote:Spicer is a lying clown for Donald. It's outrageous the President sent him out there to lie. Total fail on a softball, it was stupid Donald who brought this up at the CIA.

Former CIA Director John Brennan was reportedly "deeply saddened" by President Trump's remarks at the Central Intelligence Agency on Saturday. According to former CIA deputy chief of staff Nick Shapiro, Brennan believes that Trump "should be ashamed of himself" for his "display of self-aggrandizement."8 hours ago
Ex-CIA director: Trump should be ashamed of himself | TheHill
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... of-himself

This says largest protest ever, haven't fact checked that but wow on how much of the USA participated.
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The map doesn't come close to showing all the marches. :-D
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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:39 am

Donald, Most Americans can't stand you and you make no effort to unify people. You're no President.
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Post by GreatGrey » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:54 am

{threadjack}
I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan. YOUGE! Always graviatated towards David Gilmour and not so much Roger Waters, although Waters is a genius.

Waters absolutely despises Drump. Last year he re-tasked Pigs - Three Different Ones into an anti-Drumph song.

There have been bootleg copies floating around the tubes, but yesterday Roger posted the Official version, from a concert he did in Mexico City, 300,000 in attendance.

Presented here for your enjoyment. Put on the headphones, and crank it up. Guaranteed at some point you'll be singing along or yelling "Fuck Yeah!".

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pm me if you'd like directions on how to download a copy of it.
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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:53 am

He should have used pink dots on that graph instead of orange.

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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:54 am

on the lighter side, Putin...

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Post by tek » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:24 am

I hope he does throw Spicer under the bus. That would be a clear message to the few sane people in his administration.

Might even cause some of his cabinet picks to back out. Hell, I can dream..
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Post by Azastan » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:14 am

Lani wrote:I think that graph is missing a lot of marches. Friends in AK posted photos from several towns, including a little village of 400 with 100 protesting. Several thousand marched in Anchorage in a snowstorm. An acquaintance in South Dakota said 3 towns had marches, not 1. 5 marches in Hawaii despite rain and high winds with about 5000 in Honolulu.

What a beautiful day!
My FB pages showed that Stanley, ID, population 63, put on a march which had 30 attendees.

:shock:

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Post by RVInit » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:07 am

GreatGrey wrote:{threadjack}
I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan. YOUGE! Always graviatated towards David Gilmour and not so much Roger Waters, although Waters is a genius.

pm me if you'd like directions on how to download a copy of it.
WOW. That was great. I'm a huge life long Pink Floyd fan, too. I camped out for tickets in NO many years back, with a bunch of younger folk, many of whom were just discovering PF. Yes played in NO the same year.
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:17 am

Trump’s vow to break from OPEC oil imports echoes old refrain

http://www.mrt.com/business/oil/article ... 874872.php
His “America First Energy Plan” posted on the White House website Friday doesn’t echo just his own campaign pledges but also President George W. Bush’s vow to cut imports from the Middle East when he famously said the nation was “addicted to oil.” Shipments from OPEC rose 10 percent during Bush’s time in office.

It’s not an easy task. It would mean replacing about 3 million barrels a day of imports. That’s about three times as much as East Coast refineries consume.

:snippity:

President Trump’s goal may not be completely unobtainable as U.S. oil production has been on the rise and signs point toward possible energy independence. To achieve that, though, the country may need to reconsider a push for exports that was supported by Republicans. Since scrapping restriction on sales to countries other than Canada at the end of 2015, U.S. crude exports have risen to more than 700,000 barrels a day.
To do that Trump will have to increase the cost of fossil fuels in the USA. Gas prices will be going up. Meanwhile oil will become cheaper outside the USA. Good news for China. ;)
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:43 am

Theresa May pressed on Trump's 'sexism' as US trade talks confirmed

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... alks-women
Theresa May has confirmed she will travel to meet Donald Trump for talks about trade and fighting terrorism, but would not be drawn on suggestions she should raise his “unacceptable” comments about women.

The prime minister was repeatedly pressed about whether she would question the US president on Friday about sexism after up to 2 million people joined women’s marches around the world on Saturday to protest against him. More than 80,000 people gathered in London.

However, she insisted that being a female prime minister and the first foreign leader to meet Trump since his inauguration would be the “biggest statement” she can make about the role of women in the world.

:snippity:

The prime minister has been careful not to be too critical of Trump, although a number of other senior Conservatives have shown no such restraint. George Freeman, the head of the prime minister’s policy board, tweeted that the inauguration speech was “unusually and deliberately divisive and confrontational”.
PM May will get covered with Trump stench if she isn't careful. It is hard to wash off. ;)
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:46 am

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ans ... 7649247633
Shortly after Donald Trump took the oath of office and become the 45th president of the United States on Jan. 20, he signed a series of executive orders, many of them formal nominations for his Cabinet and other positions.

One after one, Trump signed nomination papers, frequently — thought not always — making a comment about the person he had tapped for a specific job.

:snippity:

For Betsy DeVos, the Michigan billionaire he chose for education secretary (who had a contentious hearing on Jan. 17 before the Senate education committee), he said, while looking around: “Ah, Betsy. Education. Right?”
Good guess. ;)
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Post by RTH10260 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:06 am

Volkonski wrote:Trump’s vow to break from OPEC oil imports echoes old refrain

http://www.mrt.com/business/oil/article ... 874872.php
His “America First Energy Plan” posted on the White House website Friday doesn’t echo just his own campaign pledges but also President George W. Bush’s vow to cut imports from the Middle East when he famously said the nation was “addicted to oil.” Shipments from OPEC rose 10 percent during Bush’s time in office.
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Break from the OPEC? Does that include his mental slip that the Iraq oil reserves belong to the US and need possibly be hijacked?

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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:08 am

From the Jerusalem Post-

http://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/ ... ity-479189


Analysis: The Trump presidency - a time of instability
“We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital and in every hall of power,” Trump charged in his inauguration address. “From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land. From this moment on, it’s going to be America first.”

With that decree, the nation’s 45th commander-in-chief shook America’s closest allies. European leaders issued warnings that their continent is now on its own. Arab media outlets warned of a period of hostility toward Muslims worldwide. And even newspapers in Moscow – where officials are generally optimistic that Trump will align America’s foreign policy with Russian interests – cautioned that a period of uncertainty is at hand.

For decades, American presidents have convinced foreign governments to look to Washington for guidance and stability. It was thought to be a symbiotic relationship. Foreign governments sought the partnership of the world’s only liberal superpower, and presidents have believed, since World War II, that a structured, peaceful and interconnected world would serve to benefit their own people, most of all.
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Post by RVInit » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:00 pm

This happened during the GW Bush Administration

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... essed.html

In light of KAC's "alternate facts" statement, I cringe to think about the suppression of scientific facts as well as every other kind. A Trump administration combined with a Republican led Congress is scarier than scary.
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:34 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Volkonski wrote:Trump’s vow to break from OPEC oil imports echoes old refrain

http://www.mrt.com/business/oil/article ... 874872.php
His “America First Energy Plan” posted on the White House website Friday doesn’t echo just his own campaign pledges but also President George W. Bush’s vow to cut imports from the Middle East when he famously said the nation was “addicted to oil.” Shipments from OPEC rose 10 percent during Bush’s time in office.
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Break from the OPEC? Does that include his mental slip that the Iraq oil reserves belong to the US and need possibly be hijacked?
Trump forgets that in the USA OPEC oil is imported by private companies, not the government. As long as Trump and the Republicans in Congress don't ban the importation of OPEC oil it will be imported if it is cheaper than domestically produced oil.

Right now US oil companies are not eagerly seeking new fields on government land. In 2016 only 23% of the oil leases offered by the government received bids. Yes, there is a lot of shale oil on government land but most of it is located in remote areas in the west where there is no existing infrastructure. No power lines or pipelines or railroads or highways, etc. The cost of putting in such infrastructure is high. The shale oil can not be extracted at a low enough price to overcome those upfront costs.

In any case, as it has done before, OPEC will just increase production and lower prices when companies reduce the amount of OPEC oil that they buy. That is why previous attempts to wean the USA off of OPEC oil have failed.

As to clean coal, Trump needs to learn the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy. Cleaning coal before you burn it reduces air pollution from the power plants but it creates land and water pollution from the cleaning facilities. The sulfur, heavy metals and ash have to go somewhere. They don't just disappear.

There are ways of using coal to substitute for oil and gas but they are expensive. No one will use them unless they are forced to do so (such as in South Africa during apartheid or Germany during WW II).

Cheap gas is what is reducing US coal usage not government regulation. Also, the cost of wind energy is becoming competitive with coal even w/o government subsidies. Fun fact- in 2016 wind turbines provided 15% of all the electric power consumed in Texas. :o During off peak periods wind turbines provided up to 48% of Texas power. :shock:
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Post by MN-Skeptic » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:40 pm

I stumbled on McMansion Hell blog this morning. It's newest post: Whose Style is That? Louis XIV or Donald Trump? An Interior Design Guide to the New President. The author highlights certain areas of his Trump home and comments on them. For example:

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Post by RVInit » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:57 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote:I stumbled on McMansion Hell blog this morning. It's newest post: Whose Style is That? Louis XIV or Donald Trump? An Interior Design Guide to the New President. The author highlights certain areas of his Trump home and comments on them. For example:

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I read an article once about some of the residents of Trump Tower who were involved in lawsuits against Trump. The construction of that fountain caused all sorts of inconvenience - noise, constant coming and going of contractors, etc. The woman who owns the unit below his was driven out of her place because she couldn't get any sleep. I tried to find that article, but didn't have any luck. Maybe someone else is familiar with it and can provide a link.
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Post by bob » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Whitehouse.gov: Barack Obama:
With a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, President Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961.
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Cf. Trump:
Mr. Trump won the election on November 8 of 2016 in the largest electoral college landslide for a Republican in 28 years. He won over 2,600 counties nationwide, the most since President Reagan in 1984. Additionally, he won over 62 million votes in the popular vote, the highest all-time for a Republican nominee. He also won 306 electoral votes, the most for a Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988.
Notably omitting his coming in second in the popular vote.
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Post by Skip Intro » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:39 pm

Orange shitgibbon to announce the moving of the US embassy to Jerusalem tomorrow.
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Skip Intro wrote:Orange shitgibbon to announce the moving of the US embassy to Jerusalem tomorrow.
I knew that was going to happen. There is going to be mass slaughter among Israelis and Palestinians and I know how that always turns out. For every Israeli soldier that is killed Israel with slaughter 1000 Palestinian civilians. And he not only has Trump's blessing, he has his encouragement.
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Post by tek » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:49 pm

"Hey, all I did was move the embassy. Not my fault people got killed!"
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Post by Skip Intro » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:02 pm

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