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Post by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:11 pm

And PPP has a new poll out today and it doesn't look good for Roberts:http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/Ka ... PPP916.pdf It shows Greg Orman up 41% to 34%Based on the tabs (a majority of those polled were Republicans) this is a devastating poll for Roberts. Yes indeed. Republicans are in full panic mode they're throwing money at Roberts for new ads trying to tie Orman to Obama. Saying Orman wouldn't vote to repeal Obamacare and what not.

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Post by TexasFilly » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:08 pm

Kobach loses Kansas Supreme Court argument: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/k ... e-decision
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Post by June bug » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:31 pm

Great news, Filly, though the fat lady may not have sung yet. TPM article quotes Kobach as saying the Dems will have to put another candidate on the ballot. If so, he'd probably have to sue to force them. Article claims the MSSC saw no need to rule on that because it was not before them, but a comment says MSSC specifically said no need for Dems to replace Taylor.

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Post by BillTheCat » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:36 pm

Woohoo! I think she's sung. I don't see any way the Kobach can force anyone to do anything after this ruling.
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Post by June bug » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:40 pm

From your lips to doG's ears, Bill! [-o<

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Post by mimi » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:49 pm

Rick Hasen: Breaking: In #KSSEN, Court Rules Taylor Off the Ballot: Analysis Posted on September 18, 2014 2:43 pmby Rick Hasen You can read the opinion here. Here are my thoughts:1. This is a unanimous, per curiam (unsigned) opinion from the Court holding that Democrat Chad Taylor’s name will not be on the ballot in the Kansas Senate race. This has political implications, as it will likely cause more Democrats to vote for independent Greg Orman instead of incumbent Republican Pat Roberts. It puts the seat, and perhaps the Senate, up for grabs. But there’s a wrinkle. There is still possible Court action now to force Democrats to name a new candidate to replace Taylor on the ballot. big snip. 8. So what happens next depends upon Kobach’s next move. He has said he would sue Democrats to get them to name a replacement, but given the time frame now, and the fact that it may not be in Republicans’ political interests to let this fester any more, this may be the end. [Update: Byran Lowry reports: Kobach says Dem chair has been informed that she has 8 days to select a replacement candidate. #ksleg #KSSen #kseln. It is not clear how the 8 days fits into the existing ballot printing timeframe.] [Second update: Kobach is moving the mailing to 8/27. What does this say about what he represented to court about deadlines? Wow wow wow.] 9, Addendum: If Democrats refuse to name or no candidate agrees to serve, then what? It seems like it would be a tough First Amendment claim to FORCE a party to name a replacement. Perhaps if Democrats do nothing Kobach will realize there’s not much he can do and drop the issue. We will see. more:http://electionlawblog.org/?p=65645 also: Rick Hasen @rickhasen Get ready for Democrats to claim Kobach hates the military by delaying their overseas ballots. Could violate MOVE Act too #KSSENDetails Open 13m Rick Hasen @rickhasen .@booth088 @joshtpm @politicalwire Yes, there's a real question about complying with MOVE Act deadline to get ballots to military voters Rick Hasen @rickhasen So if you are the Dems in #KSSEN, you stay silent for 8 days, then let Kobach sue and run out the clock, no?

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Post by Suranis » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:19 pm

The run out the clock strategy might be tempting. Sitting there and stroking your beard thusly while your opponent is in full panic mode increases the chance of them doing something stupid. Plus if push comes to shove all they have to do is put a janitor on the ballot that no-one knows and it accomplishes their goal perfectly. Unless Koback sues in order to force them to put money into the race too, which would be a farce of epic proportions. In that case I'd put a few ads of the Janitor reading my pet goat aloud or something similarly embarrassing on the air.
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Post by Family Liberty Patriot » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:32 pm

"Kobach further demanded that the eventual Democratic nominee attend a pancake breakfast at the Olathe VFW, stand on a street corner in Overland park waving at motorists, and other such campaign appearances as the Secretary of State's office may from time to time direct."
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Post by Piffle » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:37 pm

"Kobach further demanded that the eventual Democratic nominee attend a pancake breakfast at the Olathe VFW, stand on a street corner in Overland park waving at motorists, and other such campaign appearances as the Secretary of State's office may from time to time direct." =))

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Post by mimi » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:50 am

he's a reporter: brad cooper ‏@bradc25 26m Father of @govsambrownback staffer files petition with Surpeme Court trying to force Dems to name a Senate race candidate #kssen

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Post by SueDB » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:34 am

What are they going to do if they don't??? Bend everyone's ID card???
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Post by GreatGrey » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:32 pm

he's a reporter: brad cooper ‏@bradc25 26m Father of @govsambrownback staffer files petition with Surpeme Court trying to force Dems to name a Senate race candidate #kssenHe's not helping.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:45 pm

Can the Dems find some guy named "Pat Roberts"?

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Post by TexasFilly » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:17 pm

[url=http://talkingpointsmemo[break1]com/livewire]TPM LIVEWIRE BREAKING: Kansas Senate Ballots Will Be Sent Out Without Dem Nom











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In an apparent reversal, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach's office is instructing election officials in the state to send out overseas military ballots without Democratic Senate nominee Chad Taylor or any other Democratic Senate candidate listed.

Kobach spokeswoman Samantha Poetter confirmed to TPM that the ballots would be sent out by Saturday, the deadline under state and federal law.

"Our ballots are going out without Chad Taylor (or any Democratic candidate) for U.S. Senate," Poetter said. "They've been ordered to send them out as soon as possible."

TPM obtained a copy of the official order sent to local election officials. "



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Post by SueDB » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:51 pm

he's a reporter: brad cooper ‏@bradc25 26mFather of @govsambrownback staffer files petition with Surpeme Court trying to force Dems to name a Senate race candidate #kssenHe's not helping. Always gotta be someone to end the party by flushing the punchbowl.
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Post by mimi » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:59 pm

That TPM post that TF posted just above was updated. Dylan Scott @dylanlscott · 2h UPDATE: Kobach says in letter to officials that revised ballots could be sent with Dem nom if court orders it: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/k ... ce-ballots … #KSSen Dylan Scott @dylanlscott · 1h In light of Kobach going all in with registered Dem voter's lawsuit, worth revisiting @rickhasen from earlier: http://electionlawblog.org/?p=65672

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Post by Whatever4 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:13 pm

Last night, Rachael Maddow had the disclaimer that was to be sent with the overseas ballots. Cliff's notes version --This ballot may be replaced if the court says the Dems have to have a candidate. If that happens we'll send another ballot and only count the second. You may want to wait before voting with this one. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... 539595Talk about partisan politics.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:23 pm

The disclaimer may be a violation of Federal law -- the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA), which expressly requires ballots that count to be sent out by September 25th. If Kobach tries to send out ballots later that supersede the ballots sent by September 25th, the later ballots will be illegal. By sending the disclaimer Kobach is also calling into question the efficacy of these ballots, which are the only ones he may lawfully send. I wonder if there might be criminal liability attached to his too clever by half misconduct.

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Post by Whatever4 » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:27 pm

Does anyone have a link to the Kansas election law? Yes, I could google, but I'm on an iPod and on pain meds.
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Post by SueDB » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:00 am

http://thefogbow.com/forum/topic/6090-s ... ntry577246 Pat Roberts Receives Patented Palin Kiss-O-Political Death .. defeat on election day almost a certainty. Stick a fork in 'em.
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Post by gupwalla » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:44 pm

Palin forgot to emphasize Roberts's foreign policy credentials.Roberts can see the Russian Embassy from his house.
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Post by TexasFilly » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:15 pm

Plaintiff Is No-Show In Kansas Senate Lawsuit, Putting Kobach Ploy In Doubt









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The registered Democratic voter who sued to force his party to pick a new Senate nominee in Kansas did not appear at a Monday hearing for the case, the Topeka Capital-Journal [url=http://cjonline.com/news/2014-09-29/no- ... te-vacancy]reported

, and the judges hearing it are now considering whether the lawsuit can continue without him.David Orel, a registered Democrat in Kansas City, Kan., whose son is a campaign staffer for Republican Gov. Sam Brownback, filed the lawsuit shortly after the Kansas Supreme Court overturned Secretary of State's Kris Kobach's decision and took Democratic nominee Chad Taylor off the ballot.Kobach had requested to be made a party in the case, siding with Orel in arguing that the state Democratic Party should be forced to name a new nominee who would square off against independent candidate Greg Orman and incumbent Sen. Pat Roberts (R). The lawsuit is effectively Kobach's last chance to get a Democratic candidate on the ballot in November.Orel's lawyer Thomas Haney, who previously told TPM that his client did not want to be interviewed about the case, came under intense questioning from the three-judge district court panel about Orel's absence, the newspaper reported. The judges then broke to decide whether the case was still viable without Orel's attendance.

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