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bob wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:52 pm
And it was Larry Freakin' Klayman who has been saying it was going to be in Ventura. Birther George Miller, of Oxnard, wrote this fawning piece, and let slip that he "did assist in the arrangements for bringing the grand jury together." He also was allowed to observe their "deliberations." :roll:
From the false fawning piece.
Klayman, a well-known and to the Left a controversial public interest attorney, is in the business of suing mostly governments and officials- present and past- for breaches of public trust, sometimes winning, despite a stacked judicial bench, but often keeping his opponents at bay and publicizing their alleged crimes. One of his attributes, compared to most other such attorneys is to help determine wrongdoing and bring the harsh glare of publicity upon offenders. He has won acquittals in high profile cases such as the Bundy Ranch, BLM Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupiers and other cases.He has forced the government to disclose much information, some of which led to acquittals, more lawsuits and changes in practices. Go to www.freedomwatchusa.org to view Klayman’s biography and case history of successes.
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Post by bob » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:26 pm

Ob. WND: Holding Mueller and other scoundrels to account:
Exclusive: Larry Klayman describes citizens grand jury indictment of ex-special counsel

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[J]ust last week, as a former federal prosecutor and the founder and general counsel of Freedom Watch, I announced the criminal indictment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller by a citizens grand jury for the alleged crimes of witness tampering, obstruction of justice, attempting to suborn perjury and other illegalities. . . .

Fellow patriots, this is just the beginning. Not only will we be moving on to the try Special Counsel Robert Mueller before a citizens court, our citizens grand juries will now be coming to a place at or near your hometown. Next up will be the indictments of James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, Bruce Ohr and his wife, Nellie, Obama’s intelligence czars John Brennan and James Clapper, and of course Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama. And then there are the likes of Rep. Ilhan Omar to also bring before the bar of justice, for her rampant immigration fraud and other illegalities, which even the Trump Department of Homeland Security is afraid to touch for fear of backlash from such radical Muslim groups as the Council on Islamic-American Relations.
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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:45 am

Variety:
Laurie Luhn Drops $750 Million Suit Over ‘Loudest Voice’
By GENE MADDAUS

Laurie Luhn, the former Fox News staffer who made sexual abuse allegations against Roger Ailes, has dropped a $750 million lawsuit against Showtime over the forthcoming miniseries “Loudest Voice.” Luhn filed suit in January, accusing Showtime, Blumhouse and journalist Gabriel Sherman of violating her right to privacy. The suit alleged that Sherman was “cashing in” on her history of psychosexual torture at Ailes’ hands, and had failed even to notify her that the story would be turned into a series.

Luhn and her attorney, Larry Klayman, filed a notice on Friday dismissing the case. “The matter has been resolved to the parties’ mutual satisfaction,” Klayman said in a statement. The network declined to comment.

The seven-episode series is set to debut on Sunday on Showtime. The show is based on Sherman’s 2014 book, “The Loudest Voice in the Room,” and his subsequent reporting. Following Ailes’ ouster in July 2016, Sherman published a story based on 11 hours of interviews with Luhn, who alleged that Ailes had sexually abused her for 20 years.
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In April, Klayman filed a separate $120 million defamation suit against Fox News and its CEO, Suzanne Scott. That suit claimed that Scott had defamed Luhn by giving an interview in which Scott said that she was unaware of any sexual misconduct allegations against Ailes. Scott and Fox have filed a motion to dismiss the case.
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Post by Mr. Gneiss » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:08 am

So does this mean that GIL's poor ex-wife will finally be able to collect on the remainder he owes her and their two children?

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Mr. Gneiss wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:08 am
So does this mean that GIL's poor ex-wife will finally be able to collect on the remainder he owes her and their two children?
:lol:

"Mutual satisfaction" means Klayman is satisfied that he won't be subjected to an anti-SLAPP motion.


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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm

Someone please remind us non-lawyers why Klayman isn't subject to disbarment for convening pretend grand juries and handing down pretend indictments, etc. Something about disgracing the good name, or flouting rules of ethics or something? No?

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:22 pm

p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Someone please remind us non-lawyers why Klayman isn't subject to disbarment for convening pretend grand juries and handing down pretend indictments, etc. Something about disgracing the good name, or flouting rules of ethics or something? No?

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The First Amendment.



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:39 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:22 pm
p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Someone please remind us non-lawyers why Klayman isn't subject to disbarment for convening pretend grand juries and handing down pretend indictments, etc. Something about disgracing the good name, or flouting rules of ethics or something? No?

:confused:
The First Amendment.
Private organization, no? People get fired from jobs all the time for deceit and ethics violations.


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Post by bob » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:48 pm

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Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:39 pm
Private organization, no? People get fired from jobs all the time for deceit and ethics violations.
State bars and courts are governmental entities.

There are non-frivolous arguments to be made that fake grand juries are just a colorful method to petition the government with your grievances.

Simulation of legal process, however, is a crime in some states. But the crime requires more process than livestreaming your Denny's backroom cosplay.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:48 pm

p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:39 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:22 pm
p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Someone please remind us non-lawyers why Klayman isn't subject to disbarment for convening pretend grand juries and handing down pretend indictments, etc. Something about disgracing the good name, or flouting rules of ethics or something? No?

:confused:
The First Amendment.
Private organization, no? People get fired from jobs all the time for deceit and ethics violations.
No. State bars, or substitutes that act to control lawyer conduct and access to the courts are state/government actors.
Edit: Partially Ninja's by bob. Distinction: Some states don't have "integrated bars." In New York, for example, appellate courts in various districts of the state control who can practice law.



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:55 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:48 pm
p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:39 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:22 pm


The First Amendment.
Private organization, no? People get fired from jobs all the time for deceit and ethics violations.
No. State bars, or substitutes that act to control lawyer conduct and access to the courts are state/government actors.
Edit: Partially Ninja's by bob. Distinction: Some states don't have "integrated bars." In New York, for example, appellate courts in various districts of the state control who can practice law.
Thanks Bob and Stern. But still there are rules of ethics, yes? I see that Klayman could argue that it's all in fun, but he has a history that makes such an argument silly to an objective observer. Where is the line, however grey?


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:05 pm

In California having someone trying to arrest the "indictee" or threatening him/her with arrest and prosecution would approach extortion.



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Post by bob » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:12 pm

p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:55 pm
Thanks Bob and Stern. But still there are rules of ethics, yes? I see that Klayman could argue that it's all in fun, but he has a history that makes such an argument silly to an objective observer. Where is the line, however grey?
There are rules of ethics, but when charged with ethics violations, lawyers are notorious for demanding as much process as they are due. And bars and courts have finite resources. So bars and courts make policy decisions on how to marshall and deploy their limited resources.

I've been following Klayman's citizen-grand-jury antics. :smoking: Lately, he's been stressing that it is "educational" and "who knows the outcome?" Part of this is to set expectations for the rubes, but also to set up a defense that it was just a learning exercise, and not an attempt to cause harm (or extort).


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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:19 pm

I recognize that last from 45's arsenal of excuses for lies, smears, ad hominem attack, and of course breaking rules/the law. And likewise tend to blame his party for turning a blind eye.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:30 pm

p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Someone please remind us non-lawyers . . .
With the name "Portia" (although spelled funny) I woulda thunk you wuz a lawyer.



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:41 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:30 pm
p0rtia wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:11 pm
Someone please remind us non-lawyers . . .
With the name "Portia" (although spelled funny) I woulda thunk you wuz a lawyer.
Have you read the play? :-D


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The Merchant of Venice!



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Post by p0rtia » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:42 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:02 pm
The Merchant of Venice!
One of my faves. :-D Anyway, Portia is not a lawyer, but she was mighty interested in the law. I have always admired her.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:49 pm

And the Portia of Rumpole's chambers, Phyllida (Trant) Erskine-Brown.



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:roll:

I haven't even listened to last week's Freedom Friday yet! :torches:


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:33 pm

Get to it, bob. It's your daily punishment.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:07 pm

Yes sir, can I have another??? :rotflmao:


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Post by Orlylicious » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:33 pm

I've seen the name John Cardillo associated with vile and repugnant content, but never saw him before, he matches his Twitter profile quite well.

:lol: Larry gets his name wrong and calls him Sean OMG. I'm not familiar with "veteran trial attorney and GOP strategist also Newsmax contributor Wendy Patrick" -- Stern, think she was also voted a "Superlawyer" by her peers? ;)
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good question Sean and people can read
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about it at Freedom Watch USA o RG right
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well you've heard of a grand-jury of
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course you have everyone has you even
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see it on your local news it doesn't
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have to be something as grandiose as a
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special prosecutor or the Department of
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Justice can meeting a grand jury your
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local district attorney state's attorney
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convenes grand juries pretty much every
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day for a variety of crimes they
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prosecute but have you ever heard of a
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citizen's grand jury well the regular
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here on the show from a federal
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prosecutor and founder of a freedom
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watch Larry Klayman convened a Citizens
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grand jury and that entity has indicted
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a special counsel Robert Muller
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they claim Muller tampered with
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witnesses obstructed justice and tried
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to get witnesses to lie that's why I
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want to welcome in Larry claiming former
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federal prosecutor and veteran trial
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attorney and GOP strategist also News
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max contributor Wendy Patrick all right
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Larry first to you so the viewers that
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don't know
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explain what what a citizen's grand jury
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is and what this one specifically did
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good question Sean and people can read
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about it at Freedom Watch USA o RG right
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on the home page is the historical
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background but in 1992 Justice Antonin
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Scalia the great justice issued an
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opinion a majority opinion in the United
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States versus Williams where he found
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that the grand jury does not belong to
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either the executive branch the
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legislative branch or the judicial
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branch of government but to the American
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people we have the right to convene our
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own grand juries this is the way it was
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done before we had a Justice Department
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in 1870 in the Old West for instance
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this is what the people had to mete out
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justice we have the right to do it we
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have the right to sit and hear evidence
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and it doesn't even need to be as Scalia
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said evidence it can just be proof
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reasonable suspicion because whoever is
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indicted in a smaller will be tried at a
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citizens court he'll be convicted I
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believe and he'll be sentenced
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appropriately and that's the basis of
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this it's not that unusual in fact many
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states have citizens grand juries okay
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but Wendy to Larry's point because the
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entity isn't part of government it has
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no
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teeth right can't ask the police the
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u.s. marshals detective squad to go out
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and arrest people nor would the
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government entity in which it resides
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respond cooperate and allow use of their
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jail cells correct I mean is this a
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legally binding entity? Wendy: no not
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legally binding but John it may have no
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teeth but it gives us plenty to chew on
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in terms of public pronouncements that's
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what Larry is doing
That's all I needed to hear, they all admit it's :yankyank: right there on the teevee. Good times. :towel:


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:47 am

Orlylicious wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:33 pm
I've seen the name John Cardillo associated with vile and repugnant content, but never saw him before, he matches his Twitter profile quite well.

:lol: Larry gets his name wrong and calls him Sean OMG. I'm not familiar with "veteran trial attorney and GOP strategist also Newsmax contributor Wendy Patrick" -- Stern, think she was also voted a "Superlawyer" by her peers? ;)
Of course:
Biography

Wendy L. Patrick is a San Diego County Deputy District Attorney named by her peers as one of the Top Ten criminal attorneys in San Diego by the San Diego Daily Transcript and one of San Diego’s Super Lawyers. :yankyank: She has completed over 150 trials ranging from serial stalking, to domestic violence, to first-degree murder.
https://www.lawline.com/lawyer/wendy-patrick

On the other hand, was Avenatti ever a [Fake] Super LawyerTM? Or GIL?

I think we should nominate Orly Taitz to be a [Fake] Super LawyerTM.



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