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Re: Birther Potpourri

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Post by NMgirl » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:08 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
I think we should probably switch from bartlett pears to bosc pears if we want quality juries. Just my humble opinion.

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Post by noblepa » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:10 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
Are those bosc or d'anjou pears?

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Post by Northland10 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:52 pm

That's why I always felt that people should be tried by a jury of your bananas.

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Post by Estiveo » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:54 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
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Post by Whatever4 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:56 pm

Estiveo wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:54 pm
bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
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Post by Northland10 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:07 pm

Estiveo wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:54 pm
bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
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Post by Somerset » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:14 pm

Estiveo wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:54 pm
bob wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:38 pm

:lol:
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Post by Foggy » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:34 pm

Yeah, never let any pears on your jury. :lol:
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Post by vic » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:06 am

I luvs me some pears!

My grandmother's vacation home in Northport on Long Island (a bit more than a cottage - two stories, actual ballroom, reportedly was a hospital during the civil war, garage was so big that our swing set was inside it) had a couple dozen apple trees and about a dozen pear trees.

The families would go out in the fall and can applesauce, but I'd get my fill of ripe pears instead.

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Post by kate520 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:43 am

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Post by TollandRCR » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:13 am

My house from about 1950 was on an old farm now in the city. At the back of a large play yard there was a large pear tree. Years ago a wisteria vine had started choking it.

In east Texas wisteria and pears bloom at the same time. That was then my idea of beauty -- white blossoms and lavender blossoms.

The pears were a threat, as hornets took them over. I ate some despite that.
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Post by W. Kevin Vicklund » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:05 pm

I am allergic to pears... :sick:

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Post by Northland10 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:15 am

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:05 pm
I am allergic to pears... :sick:
There's always bananas 🍌.

:banana:
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Post by W. Kevin Vicklund » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:40 pm

Northland10 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:15 am
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:05 pm
I am allergic to pears... :sick:
There's always bananas 🍌.

:banana:
Anaphylaxis! :toxic: :crying:

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Post by Northland10 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:45 pm

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:40 pm
Northland10 wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:15 am
W. Kevin Vicklund wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:05 pm
I am allergic to pears... :sick:
There's always bananas 🍌.

:banana:
Anaphylaxis! :toxic: :crying:
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Post by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:24 pm

Didn't know where to put this. Peter Boyles yesterday with Jack Cashill. Still pushing years long debunked nonsense:


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Post by bob » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:16 pm

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:24 pm
Didn't know where to put this. Peter Boyles yesterday with Jack Cashill. Still pushing years long debunked nonsense:

It must be homecoming week because today Gilbert was on Boyles' show:


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Post by bob » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:58 pm

J. Race, Ethnicity, & Politics [Cambridge Core]: The Genesis of the Birther Rumor: Partisanship, Racial Attitudes, and Political Knowledge:
Abstract: A growing body of work has examined the psychological underpinnings of conspiracy theory endorsement, arguing that the propensity to believe in conspiracy theories and political rumors is a function of underlying predispositions and motivated reasoning. We show, like others, that rumor endorsement can also be a function of individuals’ group attitudes. In particular, among white Americans, birther beliefs are uniquely associated with racial animus. We merge this finding with other work which shows that rumors are more strongly endorsed by the individuals most motivated and capable of integrating them among their pre-existing attitudes and beliefs. We find, therefore, that it is white Republicans who are both racially conservative and highly knowledgeable who possess the most skepticism about Obama's birthplace.
I haven't read the article, but I'd describe few birthers as politically "knowledgeable." (I'm guessing it is a shorthand for a follower of current events.)
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:40 pm

bob wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:58 pm
J. Race, Ethnicity, & Politics [Cambridge Core]: The Genesis of the Birther Rumor: Partisanship, Racial Attitudes, and Political Knowledge:
Abstract: A growing body of work has examined the psychological underpinnings of conspiracy theory endorsement, arguing that the propensity to believe in conspiracy theories and political rumors is a function of underlying predispositions and motivated reasoning. We show, like others, that rumor endorsement can also be a function of individuals’ group attitudes. In particular, among white Americans, birther beliefs are uniquely associated with racial animus. We merge this finding with other work which shows that rumors are more strongly endorsed by the individuals most motivated and capable of integrating them among their pre-existing attitudes and beliefs. We find, therefore, that it is white Republicans who are both racially conservative and highly knowledgeable who possess the most skepticism about Obama's birthplace.
I haven't read the article, but I'd describe few birthers as politically "knowledgeable." (I'm guessing it is a shorthand for a follower of current events.)
Few??? As in how many?? Few??? Being overly generous at the very least. i will stipulate that there are "several" who should, and i suspect in fact do, on some level, know better, but would never admit it, but that doesn't count as "politically knowledgeable" just intellectual dishonesty, otherwise I'm not so sure.
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Post by bob » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:50 pm


From the publisher's site:
ANOTHER[*] LEGAL WHODUNIT FROM FULL COURT PRESS

A Lawyer's Personal Account Of His Involvement In An Unusual Case At The Request Of A Mysterious Client.

Wise Child
by B. K. Tyler, Esq.
You must be aware of the claims that our President should not hold office because he was not born in this country. For reasons known only to myself, I want Mr. Tyler to conduct an independent and full examination of all the evidence from the ground up.
A birther whodunit! It is free with Kindle Unlimited.

Bonus:
The Reader Is Respectfully Requested Not To Reveal The Ending.
I don't have a Kindle account, but I'm going to guess at the ending: The frogs, they be a-marchin'!



* "Another" implies that Full Court Press has released other whodunits, or other books; it hasn't: No evidence of it publishing any other book.

It claims to be based in New York. Its domain was registered by a Canada-based domain registerer.

And, obviously, B.K. Tyler ("Esq." :roll: ) is a pretty fakey fake name.
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Post by realist » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:56 pm

The one-and-only review. 5 stars, of course.
EngagedConsumer
5.0 out of 5 starsBeautiful blurring of fiction and current headlines
November 26, 2018
Format: Kindle Edition
Written with raw intensity, passion, and mystery.

Similar to other classic whodunnits, author riffs on subject embroiled in current controversy, and infuses a new approach to personal backstory and context. Replete with references to other great works like The Odyssey, the reader is left with no choice other than to try and race to solve the mystery.

Authentic, unpolished, literary style will have readers turning pages quickly.

WARNING: likely to embark on a personal detective deep-dive after reading.

Surprise ending worth the price of admission!
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Post by Princess foofypants » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:22 pm

realist wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:56 pm
The one-and-only review. 5 stars, of course.
EngagedConsumer
5.0 out of 5 starsBeautiful blurring of fiction and current headlines
November 26, 2018
Format: Kindle Edition
Written with raw intensity, passion, and mystery.

Similar to other classic whodunnits, author riffs on subject embroiled in current controversy, and infuses a new approach to personal backstory and context. Replete with references to other great works like The Odyssey, the reader is left with no choice other than to try and race to solve the mystery.

Authentic, unpolished, literary style will have readers turning pages quickly.

WARNING: likely to embark on a personal detective deep-dive after reading.

Surprise ending worth the price of admission!
:lol:

I know when I’m looking for a good read the words unpolished literary style is just what I look for!

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Post by Northland10 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:50 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:50 pm
* "Another" implies that Full Court Press has released other whodunits, or other books; it hasn't: No evidence of it publishing any other book.

It claims to be based in New York. Its domain was registered by a Canada-based domain registerer.

And, obviously, B.K. Tyler ("Esq." :roll: ) is a pretty fakey fake name.
I took a look at the reviews on the back cover and found that none of the organizations referred to (or in one case, a book) actually exist, nor are the names attached to it involved in those organizations (they may be real persons name but they track to nothing). The closest I got was Chandler Jones from Epan. I can only figure he decided to use Chandler Jones (a defensive back for the Arizonia Cardinals and previously, the Patriots) and add Epan (instead of ESPN).
"Sheds new light on recent events.... Tyler's characters are supposedly fictitious, but how much of this might be true?"
—— Margo Beech, Hartford Review
Funny how the results for Margo Beech and Hartford Review are sites that mention the book.

Don't Worry, a P&E commenter tells us that Volin's on it.
Glenn Harrison
Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:36 AM

Currently, Mike Volin and his staff of http://www.wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com are examining a recent book entitled Wise Child by B.K. Tyler, Esq.

Amazon.com: Wise Child (97806920444450): BK Tyler: Books
Wise Child paperback-book – November 2, 2018 This book is available via Kindle or Paperback.

On Amazon’s web site for the ad for Wise Child it states:

ANOTHER LEGAL WHODUNIT FROM COURT PRESS. A lawyer’s personal account of
his involvement in an unusual case at the request of a mysterious client.

“You must be aware of the claims that our President should not hold office because he was not born in this country. I want Mr. Tyler to conduct an independent and full examination
of all the evidence from the ground up. ”

” SHEDS NEW LIGHT ON RECENT EVENTS…. TYLER’S CHARACTERS ARE SUPPOSEDLY FICTITIOUS, BUT HOW MUCH OF THIS MIGHT BE TRUE?
—-Margo Beech, Hartford Review”

I will be ordering this book today and respond about it ASAP.

There has been and there still is great resistance in the Media, Congress and the Senate,
both the Democrats and Republicans, to avoid “hard-stone” evidence. While this noted
book may be fiction, it may have some leads or important points to ponder. Perhaps
we may also get some traction.
Oooh.. traction... any day now.
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Post by Foggy » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:14 am

A magnificent piece of literature, impeccably researched.

I'm giving it four Sheriff's Kits. :lol:
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Post by Volkonski » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:44 pm

Status of pending "natural born citizen" challenges and litigation in 2016 presidential election

http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2016/ ... l-election
Board of Election or Secretary of State Administrative Challenges
Illinois, State Board of Elections (coverage here)

Joyce v. Cruz (160SOEBGP526), Graham v. Cruz (16SOEBGP527), Graham v. Rubio (16SOEBGP528): decision

Indiana, Election Commission

Carter v. Rubio (Cause 2016-2), Carter v. Cruz (Cause 2016-3), Kern v. Cruz (Cause 2016-4): decision permitting appearance on ballot, not yet available electronically, news story here

New Hampshire, Ballot Law Commission (coverage here and here)

Elliot v. Cruz, Booth v. Cruz (BLC 2015-2): decision

Laity v. Cruz, Laity v. Rubio (BLC 2015-4): decision

New Jersey

Williams v. Cruz (OAL STE 5016-16), Powers v. Cruz (OAL STE 5018-16): recommendation, adopted

New York, Board of Elections

Fischer v. Cruz, Gallo v. Cruz, Laity v. Cruz: not yet available electronically, news stories here and here; filing; decision permitting appearance on ballot (archived webcast)

Litigation
Federal

Green v. Cruz (N.D. Ala. 5:16-cv-207): complaint, amended complaint; dismissed without prejudice (May 10, 2016)

Librace v. Martin (E.D. Ark. 4:16-cv-57): complaint, dismissed (Feb. 29, 2016)

Booth v. Cruz (D.N.H. 15–cv–518): dismissed (Feb. 2, 2016)

Fischer v. Cruz (E.D.N.Y. 2:16-cv-01224): complaint, dismissed (Apr. 7, 2016)

Schwartz v. Cruz (S.D. Tex. 4:16-cv-00106): second amended complaint; dismissed (April 13, 2016); summarily affirmed (5th Cir. 16-20231)

Wagner v. Cruz (D. Utah 2:16-cv-00055): complaint , dismissed (Mar. 18, 2016); affirmed (10th Cir. 16-4044); petition for writ of ceriorari (15-1243), denied (May 31, 2016)

State

Voeltz v. Cruz (Broward County, Fla. Circuit Ct. CACE15022044): docket, dismissed (March 4, 2016)

Smallwood v. State (Hawaii Supreme Ct. SCEC–16–0000330): dismissed (Apr. 21, 2016)

Joyce v. Cruz (Illinois): not yet available electronically, news stories here and here, dismissed (Mar. 1, 2016)

Korman v. New York State Board of Elections (New York County, Supreme Ct. 100240/2016): memorandum of law; dismissed (Mar. 7, 2016); affirmed on appeal (Mar. 24, 2016); appeal denied (Mo. No. 2016-374, Apr. 1, 2016)

Laity v. New York (New York), dismissal affirmed on appeal (Aug. 10, 2017); petition for writ of certiorari filed, (No. 17-1007, Jan. 19, 2018)

Farrell v. Cruz (Pennsylvania): dismissed (Mar. 11, 2016), news stories here and here; appeals to Supreme Court (29 MAP 2016), affirmed (Mar. 31, 2016); petition for certiorari sub nom. Elliott v. Cruz (16-13), denied (Oct. 3, 2016)

Paige v. Vermont (Washington Civil Div., Vt. Sup. Ct. 780-12-15 Wncv): complaint; dismissed (May 12, 2016); appeal to Supreme Court (2016-202), dismissed (June 16, 2017).
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