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P&E: Standing up for our President and our Constitution:
Tom Arnold wrote:"THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS"

[Editor’s Note: The following was sent by email to Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), the Donald J. Trump campaign, and Judicial Watch.]

Senator Hawley, you have underscored my pride to be a Missourian! And, I really do mean it. I was born in Bates County, raised there, volunteered to be drafted there, after two years in the US Army went back to school and graduated from Mizzou (1969), then went on to have a 32 year career in law enforcement in California. Glad I’m not in the Socialist Republic of California anymore! I got out just in time, and now reside with my wife in the Las Vegas, Nevada, area.
The rest is the usual birther evergreen. :yawn:


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P&E: Americans Have Already Been Victims of Election Fraud:
Tom Arnold wrote:"CONSPIRACY THEORIES" VS. FACTS

CNN likes to accuse President Trump of promoting “conspiracy theories.” So, how about the matter described below, which is a fact and not a theory and is especially relevant and meaningful to events currently taking place in our country?

Barack Hussein Obama, our country’s 44th “president,” won the high office (twice) by ELECTION FRAUD. He even was CONVICTED in 2013 by a citizens’ grand jury in Ocala, Florida of DEFRAUDING the electorate at both the state and federal levels by having presented to the voting public an alleged birth certificate which was a FORGERY. He was sentenced in absentia to ten years in prison (five years consecutively per each count of election fraud committed by using a false identification document).

Obama also had been convicted by a citizens’ jury three years earlier, in 2010 at the ATLAH Ministries, New York City, in a trial known as the C.I.A. Columbia Sedition and Treason trial. He was convicted of all counts, which included SEDITION. The convictions apparently were handed over to lawyers who were already in the process of developing other cases against Obama.
More the usual evergreen. :yawn:


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P&E: Exclusive: Source Living in Italy: Report of US Presidential Election Steal Made Public “Nearly a Month Ago”:
"INCONTROVERTIBLE CONFIRMATIONS"

A reliable source residing in Italy told The Post & Email Sunday that an allegation that that nation played a major role in switching votes from President Donald Trump to Democratic challenger Joe Biden was reported “nearly a month ago” on “several news channels.”
MIKE ZULLO, IS THAT YOU?
Our source currently resides in Italy and is fluent in the language.
So, not Zullo: Zullo isn't even fluent in English.

And, of course:
Since the story broke, The Post & Email has sent two emails to [the] NIA spokesperson [ . . . ] without result. On Monday afternoon, we attempted to reach [the spokesperson] by phone but received a voice greeting stating the mailbox was full.
Ignore Rondeau continues to be newsworthy!

The leftovers:
At approximately 3:45 AM January 7, Biden was “certified” as the winner of the November 3 presidential election.

On Thursday and Friday, more than a dozen social-media companies, including Twitter and Facebook, suspended the president’s accounts, claiming that any further postings could encourage violence.

On Monday morning, the House released an article of impeachment claiming that Trump incited violence on January 6 when he called for supporters attending a rally that day to “peacefully” protest and encourage Congress to question the certification.

Peaceful protest and “redress of grievances” are enshrined in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

If Biden’s “election” holds, Trump has fewer than nine days left in office as of this writing.
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Apparently Rhondoo doo's definition of "peaceful protests" is as flexible as her definitions of "treason" and "truth". I for some odd reason don't see armed seditionists breaking in to a Federal building, causing serious property damage, and threatening people's, and particularly the VP, live in any way shape or form "peaceful".


The fact that you sincerely and wholeheartedly believe that the “Law of Gravity” is unconstitutional and a violation of your sovereign rights, does not absolve you of adherence to it.
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"INCONTROVERTIBLE CONFIRMATIONS"

A reliable source residing in Italy told The Post & Email Sunday that an allegation that that nation played a major role in switching votes from President Donald Trump to Democratic challenger Joe Biden was reported “nearly a month ago” on “several news channels.”
It was reported and there's a YouTube video.

Too. Also. It's complete and utter bullshit. Laughable even.


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Rondoo wrote:At approximately 3:45 AM January 7, Biden was “certified” as the winner of the November 3 presidential election.
No Biden was certified [without the quotation marks] as the winner of the Electoral College vote held on December 14th.


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P&E: Why is “natural born American Citizen” a Taboo Subject for Our Government and Media?:
Tom Arnold wrote:"CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE"

[Editor’s Note: The following was sent on Tuesday to dozens of media executives, journalists and commentators, members of Congress and private citizens.]

You probably won’t agree with me (or maybe not even know what I’m talking about), but “NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN” is a prominent and very important concept in our U.S. Constitution (Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5). It is one of the constitutional requirements for someone to run for and become elected our country’s Vice-President and President. If one is NOT a natural born American citizen, he/she is constitutionally INELIGIBLE for these high offices. In recent years, there has been controversy regarding the meaning of natural born American citizen. Especially, I might add, since 2008-09, and I presume you know what happened then! U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John G Roberts Jr swore in, as our country’s 44th “president,” an INELIGIBLE Barack Hussein Obama, and Chief Justice Roberts KNEW IT! For those of you who doubt or refuse to believe that Obama was ineligible, allow me to give you just one of the reasons. He had been a citizen of two and possibly three countries at different times throughout his life (British Kenya, Indonesia, and possibly the United States, although the latter would have been a naturalized citizenship and NOT a natural born American citizenship). All of this (and add to it the INELIGIBILITY of the current VP-elect Kamala Harris) is, as Joe Biden once whispered in Barack Obama’s ear, a “big friggin’ deal!” Why? Because not being a natural born American citizen vice-president or president puts our country IN DANGER AND AT RISK IN MANY WAYS INCLUDING ESPECIALLY FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY STANDPOINT. This was the thinking of our framers, and we now are seeing the consequences, which they wisely foresaw and did what they could to prevent, playing out right before our eyes. In fact, our “constitutional crisis” didn’t just happen. It started over a decade ago in 2008-09. In my opinion, everything that is going wrong in our society and government today stems from the mistake we made in 2008-09. We elected (by defrauding the voters, and doesn’t that sound familiar!) Barack Hussein Obama.

SO, I ASK YOU, THE ELECTED AND APPOINTED PEOPLES’ “REPRESENTATIVES” IN OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE NO LONGER-TO-BE-TRUSTED “JOURNALISTS” AND TALKING HEADS IN THE NEWS MEDIA, WHY IS “NATURAL BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN” A TABOO SUBJECT? COULD IT BE BECAUSE CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS IGNORED THE CONSTITUTION IN 2009 AND SWORE IN AN INELIGIBLE ARAB-AMERICAN MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA AS “PRESIDENT” OF THE UNITED STATES? ROBERTS DID IT AGAIN IN 2013. AND, THE DEMOCRAT PARTY LOVED IT ALL THE TIME! Those of us, on the other hand, who are able to take a rational and nonpartisan look at what has transpired, begin to see the real reasons, albeit completely unacceptable, that the topic of natural born American citizenship is TABOO! Only problem is that our constitutional democratic republic will not survive without enlightenment and truth. This matter is not going away, at least not as long as our citizens have freedom of speech and thought. In this case, TOO MUCH WOKE WON’T WORK!
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Linda Jordan was at the Insurrection on January 6th and is quite delusional about what happened:

Trumpian Army Goes to Washington
13 hours ago
by Linda Jordan,

(Jan. 12, 2021) — Insurrection? I’ll give you an insurrection.

On November 3rd, 2020 President Trump won re-election in a landslide victory and everyone knows it. None of the events on January 6th, 2021 change this fact.

The Democrats are engaged in a full-blown insurrection. :rotflmao: The Democrats stole this election. The Democrats are attempting yet another coup. The Democrats are engaged in treason. The Democrats have supported and advocated violence. The Democrats have shown an absolute disdain for America, the Constitution and the hallowed halls of the Capitol. Their outrage should be directed at them.

We, The Deplorables, The MAGA, The Trumpian Army, know what the Democrats did. We know you stole this election and we know all the dirty details about how you did it. No matter how many times you accuse us of doing what you yourselves are doing we are going to call you out for the liars you are and demand justice.

We’re rubber, you’re glue.

What’s going on is an attempted coup to oust a legally elected President, Donald J. Trump. In fact Democrats have been trying for four years to remove him from office by hook or by crook. In spite of all their attacks on the President and on those who voted for him we, The Deplorables, elected him again. President Trump won re-election in a landslide garnering 74 million legal votes and with more support from blacks and Hispanics than anyone thought was possible. (1)

But the Democrats were not going to let the will of the people determine who was president. On November 3, 2020, after seeing on election night that Trump was winning, bigly, they put their well-laid plan to steal the election into action. (2)

They stopped the vote count election night in several major battleground states. That’s never been done before. These happened to be states that have been rife with election fraud, by Democrats, in the past. They kicked out GOP poll watchers or refused to let them get close enough for any meaningful observation of ballot-counting. In the dead of night they flooded those states with millions of fake ballots, forged ballots, dead voters, fabricated voters, illegal voters. They counted fake Biden ballots again and again and again. They drove truckloads of fake ballots from New York to Pennsylvania. They used vote tabulation machines that did not tabulate votes but calculated them. And they used those calculations to make sure that Biden came out ahead no matter what. Election tallies are additive, vote tallies only go up, not down, and yet several times we saw, live on TV, that Trump’s tally had votes subtracted from it. (3) This massive election fraud could not have been more in-your-face. This was an act of treason. This was the insurrection that the Democrats, BLM and Antifa had been planning for all year.

The greatest case of election fraud in the history of our country and all of our institutions, responsible for considering evidence, determining findings of fact and providing a remedy to right a wrong, failed to do so. This was an abject failure and breakdown of our government. What are the people left to do? Our vote is the one power we have. It must be defended. We march to the Capitol and address our grievances to our representatives.

The Trumpian Army goes to Washington.

I was there in Washington, D.C. on January 6th, along with a million and a half other Americans who showed up to defend our country. This was not an army with a military purpose. It was more like a Salvation Army. We were there to save our country. There was no violence from us to speak of, no massive property damage, no arson. Just Americans using their voices to demand that the theft of this election be stopped. A peaceful event just as all MAGA events have been. The violence and confrontation came from and was encouraged by two sources.

1. It has been documented that BLM/Antifa cells were there, :rotflmao: infiltrated the MAGA March and injected their brand of mayhem. (4) That’s your violent mob. They have been dishing out riots, murder, violence, and arson for the last ten months supported and encouraged by Democrats. (5) Out of a million and a half MAGA marchers they managed to get about a hundred to follow them in to the Capitol. And by their standards, the level of conflict and violence at the Capital was minimal. For a MAGA March, this turn of events was an extreme anomaly. For BLM/Antifa it was par for the course.

And consider this: all the violence, arson and murder that BLM/Antifa have waged this last year has largely gone unpunished. Very few have been prosecuted for the thousands upon thousands of violent crimes committed. But within two days of the MAGA March the FBI announces that they had captured the man who took a selfie sitting at Nancy Pelosi’s desk and the man who walked away with her lectern. Hallelujah. The FBI has their priorities straight. Arson? Murder? Billions of dollars of damage in cities BLM/Antifa rioted in? Not worth the effort. But the guy who took a selfie at Pelosi’s desk? That’s a top priority. They also concluded that BLM/Antifa were not at the Capitol even though many MAGA marchers saw them and recognized them, and even though a well-known active BLM agitator, John Sullivan of Utah, who encourages extreme violence and insurgence, was interviewed by media at the Capitol on that very day. In fact, he was right next to Ashli Babbit when she got shot. He says he was in the building just to “observe.” I don’t buy that for one second. (5k.)

2. A very aggressive stance by Capitol Police combined with an insane overreaction by Democrats and weak-kneed Republicans. This overreaction by both groups created a false narrative of mass violence. Even with BLM/Antifa involvement there was no mass violence. Over a million and a half citizens were there to exercise their right to free speech. A few MAGA engaged in civil disobedience and some may have physically fought through the police line to get in to the building but Democrats have never reacted this way when radical leftists have invaded the Capitol Building (remember the Kavanagh hearings?) Or when they tried to enter the Supreme Court. Or when they attempted to enter the White House. (6) Were any leftists shot and killed then? Did Nancy Pelosi demand Capitol Police be fired? And let’s not forget how unafraid the Democrats have been by the BLM/Antifa riots over the last year. (7) Nor the hands-off approach they took in response to the extreme violence those domestic terrorist groups inflicted on American citizens and cities. Democrats have even praised and encouraged BLM/Antifa violence. (8) But they meet our 99.9999% peaceful presence at the Capitol in riot gear and immediately start shooting canisters of gas at us and then pepper spray.

I believe the violent confrontations with police at the Capitol were pretty-much BLM/Antifa. (9) I saw one guy trying to lead MAGA marchers around the back to enter the building. He walked toward the cops with his hands up, like “hands up, don’t shoot.” That’s a classic BLM/Antifa trademark move.

So, Nancy, spare me your histrionics and feigned outrage. You are gaslighting.

The heinous attack. It wasn’t MAGA entering the Capitol building or taking selfies at Pelosi’s desk.

1. It was the Capitol Police who shot an unarmed MAGA supporter almost point-blank in the throat, killing her. It was an execution. The woman was clearly not a threat and could have been grabbed by cops in the hallway in front of her as she was climbing through a broken window. There was also armed law enforcement standing directly behind her in the hallway! (10) They made no attempt to stop her. If they saw her as a threat, why didn’t they pull her back? During the Floyd riots, Democrats draped cloths around their necks and got on bended knee for 9+ minutes. When an unarmed young woman was slaughtered by their police, they reconvened quickly, with Vice President Pence barely acknowledging her loss of life. I don’t think they even conducted an investigation of the crime scene. And after this woman died, the cops opened the doors to the Capitol and let MAGA marchers inside. Most had not even heard that a woman had been shot. Almost all cell phone coverage was down. Video shows MAGA marchers calmly walking through the building with cops present with no violence, no mass destruction. (11)

2. It was someone allegedly killing a police officer who was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher and later died from the injury. As of this writing the details of that have not been confirmed. We also don’t know who the purported assailant was. MAGA? Or BLM/Antifa? BLM/Antifa are famous for hitting cops over the head with blunt objects; (12) MAGA supporters are not.


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P&E comment:
Jen Springfield wrote:In the interests of balance, then, readers should also see this:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 567335002/

The Fact Check apparently explains, or refutes, the claims, and highlights some errors of fact in the original, quoting a number of responsible sources.
Rondeau wrote:Balance in reporting is good, but USA Today has shown itself to be imbalanced for quite a while now. In its “fact-checking,” it says the claims are “baseless” but does not refer to the affidavit and news report posted at NationsinAction.org. It omits the sworn affidavit of the defense attorney and, most significantly, states that its “fact-checking” is partially funded by…wait for it…Facebook, hardly a neutral source of funding. The Post & Email’s eyewitness account of local news coverage of the alleged perpetrator’s confession indicates that the story is considered worthy of reportage, at least in Italy.
So USA Today is too unbalanced for Rondeau, but someone watching Italian tee vee is newsworthy. :roll:


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I learned a lot from watching Colpo Grosso when I was in Italy. :bag:


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