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People are having less sex

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Post by Suranis » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:45 am

I thought about putting this in the Incel thread but I figured a new one would be better. Basically, the number of young men who have reported no sexual encounters has tripled since 2008, and the proportion is now over 25%. Its nothing to do with the MEETOO movement as the trend was well underway before that.

Its a pretty long thread with charts but it starts here. And I'm not copying the whole thing as its 7am and I'm in a "fuck this shit" kinda mood



And its actually really concentrated on young people. Over 50s men are twice as likely to have reported a sexual encounter in the last year than under 30s men.



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1. Young male labor force participation has fallen. Less work = less relationships = less sex
2. Alongside that, men in that age group are more likely than women to live with their parents which presents... obvious barriers to having sex.
So ya, there are a lot of frustrated men out there.
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:36 pm

Social media has given older women a platform to spread the news that many men are not very nice people so younger women are thinking twice before getting involved with men.

Considering that men are what they are it was bound to happen.
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Post by Suranis » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:44 pm

Not actually true, becasue if you look at the Graphs women are still getting laid.
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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:02 pm

Suranis wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:44 pm
Not actually true, becasue if you look at the Graphs women are still getting laid.
Yes, but they are being more selective about their men.
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Post by Mikedunford » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:23 pm

Did they control for willingness to report? I'm other words, do they clearly show that the quantity of sex has decreased, or could it at least in part be that there's less lying about getting sex going on?
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Post by Estiveo » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:34 pm

I find it amusing that, so far, this thread is a sausage fest.
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Post by Jeffrey » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:12 pm

Yes men are arguing on forums instead of having sex.

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Post by Volkonski » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:58 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:12 pm
Yes men are arguing on forums instead of having sex.
You may be on to something there. ;)
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Post by Suranis » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:18 pm

:panic:
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Post by boots » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:29 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:12 pm
Yes men are arguing on forums instead of having sex.
Are not!

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Post by much ado » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:03 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:02 pm
Suranis wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:44 pm
Not actually true, becasue if you look at the Graphs women are still getting laid.
Yes, but they are being more selective about their men.
The ones who are willing seem to be choosing the same men?

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Post by fierceredpanda » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:46 pm

This thread is just screaming for a sad trombone.

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Post by Estiveo » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:02 pm

Maybe just a slightly dejected slide whistle.
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Post by Suranis » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:35 pm

fierceredpanda wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:46 pm
This thread is just screaming for a sad trombone.

:trombone:
My life resembles that remark. :?

Anyway, Wikileaks is on the case, using this study as... something.

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Why Trump won? Millions young men stripped of romance and children (possibly by the post 2008 crash soar in wealth inequality) vented their disappointment via memetic warfare against an avowedly feminist candidate? Who will harness this vast young army with free time in 2020?
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Post by DejaMoo » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 am

Guys on social forums I hang out on have mentioned for years that they're spending more time masturbating and less time having sex with other people. Masturbation is still sex, so it's not like these guys are frustrated. And according to them, this is by preference. Basically, porn gives them access to better-looking women, it's available everywhere/anytime, and they only have to focus on getting themselves off, not pleasing a partner.

Plus, Dan Savage (Savage Love) has had lots of emails from guys over the years complaining that their sexual sensation in conventional sex can't measure up to what their hand provides. Savage tells them they have to train themselves to masturbate with a gentler grip, because once they get accustomed to the 'death grip', no body orifice will be able to squeeze as tightly.

Basically, porn has made it easier and more convenient for people to get themselves off, so there's less pressure to do it with a partner.
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Post by AndyinPA » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:04 pm

I can't remember where I saw it recently (The Guardian?), but there was an article about how men masturbating to so much porn is making it difficult for many of them to perform with real women. The article was also talking about younger men.

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Post by RoadScholar » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:10 pm

Nothing would surprise me less than to find out that the decline in sex drive in men is of a piece with the decline in testosterone levels and sperm counts in men world-wide, which some researchers attribute to the estrogen-mimetic synthetic chemical pollutants we've made and leaked into the environment, which are also by now world-wide.

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Post by Jeffrey » Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:53 pm

I only play a doctor on TV, but since humans are social primates, masturbation clearly doesn’t fill the same needs that sex does. This is a problem society needs to deal with somehow.

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Post by ZekeB » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:07 pm

DejaMoo wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:37 am
Basically, porn has made it easier and more convenient for people to get themselves off, so there's less pressure to do it with a partner.
Nothing is better than having a partner. Period. Back in the olden days when they had us attend a meth forum the presenter mentioned that meth users get a much bigger kick out of meth than they do out of sex. That alone would keep me a mile away from meth use, if the opportunity ever reared its head.

BTW DejaMoo, tell us about those forums. I'm asking for a friend.
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Post by Jim » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:16 pm

Volkonski wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:36 pm
Social media has given older women a platform to spread the news that many men are not very nice people so younger women are thinking twice before getting involved with men.

Considering that men are what they are it was bound to happen.
Actually, about 10 years ago I noticed a pattern emerging on social sites, more and more woman were demanding the men have a job before even considering them. Add to that the fact that women are more likely to have a college degree than men, and you see what is happening.

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Post by much ado » Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:47 pm

I wonder if any of this partially explains why we don't have grand kids yet? :think:

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