Fortinbras wrote:Even without his passport, there are enough Fundie Mormons on the contiguous continents to have smuggled Lyle over the border - not stopping in Mexico, which has plenty of hidden Fundie colonias, but going well beyond to Central and South America and even to nearby islands. Considering the pre-existing colonias, the Jeffs may already be fluent in Mexican Spanish and thereby understandable all the way to Tierra del Fuego. And, it is conceivable, in some of those South American countries it is possible to get new fake documents for a South American passport to get to Europe.
Blergh, this is rather inaccurate. One thing you don't understand about fundamentalist Mormons is that the FLDS is just one of many groups, and according to sociologists I've spoken to, most polygamist families are not part of groups. The colonias in northern Mexico, for example, were originally set up under the auspices of the LDS Church in that period when the church was trying to continue the practice of polygamy even though it said it had given it up in 1890. That era ended in 1904 with the "Second Manifesto," but there were a good chunk of Mormons in Mexico (and Canada) at the time. As I'm sure you all know, George Romney, father of Mitt, was born in a colonia to US citizen parents.
After the Second Manifesto, there was a period of some confusion. Two apostles were excommunicated over continuing to marry after 1904. The modern polygamist movement comes out of an assertion by a guy named Lorin Woolley that a church president (John Taylor) said that polygamy would continue and children would continue to be born within polygamous marriages until Jesus returned. Woolley alleged that a sketchy group, called the Council of Friends, was to supervise, but there was no central authority and in any case, by the time Woolley died in 1934, people had hived off into various groups, if they weren't independents. These included the Short Creek group (FLDS), the Musser group (Apostolic United Brethren) and the Kingston group, but there were many, many independents.
The point of this recitation is to say that Warren is only recognized as the leader of the FLDS. None of the other groups and certainly none of the independents recognize him as a leader, and, in point of fact, if he were to show up in their area, they might ingratiate themselves to law enforcement by turning him in. However, the FLDS are all over the place, and, it's alleged by one of Lyle Jeffs' ex-wife that Lyle has property in South America. But, the only people Lyle can trust not to turn him in are other FLDS, not just any ole run of the mill polygamists.