MSO wrote:Arguing with flat earthers is just as ridiculous as arguing with Orly Taitz. First of all they believe in every conspiracy theory that exists (and some they made up just to prove their theory). Every argument that you can prove against their theory will just be condemned as bible hating scientists faking stuff so they can destroy religion. You will find that most flat earthers wish we could go back to the dark ages where the church defined the world not science.
Actually, its something more complex than that. For example, as I keep saying, People knew the Earth was round in the Dark Ages. The idea that the Earth was flat actually started a resurgence in the 19th century and was used as an insult as "hurr hurr You are so stoopid because you believed the earth was flat." St Augustine discussed a round earth in City of God for example. And, did you know that Copernicus's theories were brought before Pope Clement VII in 1533, who approved of the theory? http://info-poland.buffalo.edu/classroo ... icus.shtml
The point is that in the Dark ages Clerics WERE the scientists. They were frequently the only educated people around. When St Columbanus began his pilgrimage one of the reasons he was successful is that he was teaching Mathematics as well as the Scriptures and he began bringing the whole package of sciences back to Europe. He could debate with the best of them and prove things. It has been said that Ireland saved Europe because our missionaries brought knowledge of the sciences back to Europe, and the Sciences remained intact in Ireland because we had not been ravaged by the wars that had ravaged Europe back and forth for a couple of hundred years.
Frankly, the Church has been the guardian of science far more than it has been its enemy. Even today the Catholic Church has world leaders in the Physical Sciences and to a lesser extent in Biology. We are not too hot on the other sciences but you cant have everything.
Anyway, I think the reason this Flat earth shit is flourishing is that a lot of them are trolls. And the whole thing of "we are smarter today than people were in the past" is bouncing back against science at this point, because people think they are smarter than those old stuffy bigwigs who follow those old fashioned theories of, for example, Newton. Fuck his apple, We are smarter than that shit because WE HAVE THE INTERNET dammit! So we can decide the earth is flat now because everyone before us thought it was round and we are smart!
The fact is a lot of this shit can be 86ed by starting to admit that people in the prior centuries were actually pretty smart cookies and we shouldn't be looking down on them. Of course also that means admitting that Columbus was a moron who got his maths wrong, but hey, 'merica.