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Suranis wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:54 am
(And, also, Deja Moo was mostly right.)
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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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Jeffrey's spirited defense of Trump's Charlottesville "both sides" comments (by assuming Trump has a mind that is highly structured and can concentrate solely on one thing at a time) reminds me of his finding Lindsey Graham to be a Republican Behaving Well after the El Paso terrorism, here - http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p1105385 , simply because Graham repeats the discredited NRA meme that gun violence is caused by mental illness.
Potato, tomato. It's pretty clear I was giving Graham credit for at least nominally supporting some level of gun control.

I suppose when I gave a "spirited defense" of statements made the latest woman to accuse Trump of raping her, that it was also done because of Trump sympathies or Republican sympathies or whatever it is I'm suspected of.
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Jeffrey, no need to indulge in ad hominems. I disagree with your positions. They seem to be pretty consistent in defending the indefensible.

As to "fine people on both sides," I don't think the position asserted is reasonable. It requires one to read a lot of intellectual rigor into the thought processes of Trump. It's pretty clear he has no intellectual rigor; he's just a racist and white supremacist. As for Lindsey Graham's comments, which you applauded, he was merely spinning an old NRA meme that only the mentally ill misuse guns. No progress on Graham's part; none at all. And nothing to do with the real problem -- the proliferation of weapons and ammunition of warfare.

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Jeffrey wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:58 am
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Finally when Trump pulls the "very fine people" line he's still talking about UTR.
Reporter: "Sir, I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don’t understand what you were saying."

Trump: "No, no. There were people in that rally -- and I looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people -- neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.
Yes Jeffery, as I said at the start when he was talking about "very fine people," he was talking about the people who were marching with Tiki torches and changing "the Jews will not replace us" the night before.

While you seem to think you are clever by teleporting back and forth in time in order to try and confuse people, the fact is, I was right. Why you think you are clever by quoting stuff that proves I was right at the very beginning is beyond me.

And I should also mention this is the same group that surrounded counter protesters and attacked them at 2 to 1 odds so obviously it was nice quiet and peaceful and a TOTALLY different group to the next day totally.

"But you dont understand that he was totally talking about all those people who didnt chant anything! They were the ones he was talking about and it was whose he was talking about as find people..."

Oh some fantasy majority of people there who just marched quietly in a group that was chanting Nazi slogans and that means they were totally not nazis despite the fact hey didn't immediately leave which means that he MUST have been talking about the Night before crowd and the fact is that President Tapiocaforbrains said "If you look, there were people protesting very quietly Aside from the "The Jews will not replace us" cough ignore that cough cough the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones." and then he said "The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people" <--- making it absolutely clear to everyone bar contrarian trolls what he was talking about.

So ya, sorry Tiki Torches, chanting "Jews will not replace us" attacked counter protesters, very fine people, manufacturer of Tiki Torches came out stronger against Nazis than the president of the United States.

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No she wasn't, Father Ted.
Interesting perspective, Mr Magoo.
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voxpopuluxe wrote:
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No she wasn't, Father Ted.
Interesting perspective, Mr Magoo.
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Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 pm
The Godfather of Intentionally Dangerous Trolls, 8chan owner Jim Watkins (Vet I believe who now lives in the Philippines)
Yes. Here's a long article about the origins of 8chan:

https://members.tortoisemedia.com/2019/ ... ntent.html
In October 2014, Brennan held a party at a strip club in Long Island City, Queens, to celebrate the site’s first birthday. People wanted his autograph. It was “crazy”. The next day, he moved to the Philippines.

Brennan only held on to the legal ownership of 8chan for about six weeks after Gamergate arrived. His funding platform Patreon cancelled his account; money was running low. The site was in such chaos, the traffic was so extreme, and there were so many attacks and legal threats flooding over him that he decided he had to find someone to take ownership.

He had a few offers, and he picked Jim Watkins, an American army veteran in his fifties who owned a pig farm outside Manila. His company, NT Technology, which operated several porn sites as well as 2channel – the Japanese forerunner to 4chan – assumed legal responsibility for the domain and provided the hardware, while Brennan would continue to run the software and grow the community. In January 2015, as part of his new employment at NT Tech in Manila, Brennan formally signed the domain over to Watkins.

The content on 8chan is among the most offensive, violent and bigoted on the web. It became a sump for the most racist and misogynist of users – especially on the /pol/ board, where the most far-right political viewpoints collected. But in evaluating its behaviour, it is probably helpful to think of a chan site not as a collection of individual people but as some kind of many-headed trickster-god; a psychotic consciousness in its own right.

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Molyneux hasn't gotten a lot of coverage on the forum but over the last 2(?) years he's been inching towards full blown Nazism and today he pulls out this gem:
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Somerset wrote:
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Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:43 pm
The Godfather of Intentionally Dangerous Trolls, 8chan owner Jim Watkins (Vet I believe who now lives in the Philippines)
Yes. Here's a long article about the origins of 8chan:
That's an interesting piece but I think the author's too in love with his Frankenstein monster conceit to state explicitly that while, yes, 8chan and /pol/ may be spaces where users can radicalize other users, they are also, and were, foremost, spaces built by terrible people explicitly as places to be terrible in. They didn't just happen; as much as any lynch mob, they were organized to hurt people.
it is probably helpful to think of a chan site not as a collection of individual people but as some kind of many-headed trickster-god; a psychotic consciousness in its own right.
No, it's probably not helpful to replace individual members of a group organized to perpetuate their own racism and misogyny and every other nihilistic impulse with some vaguely imagined metaphor which only serves to plead their diminished capacity.

The author does get Gamergate right, tho. As a rehearsal of the tactics, themes, and players of neo-fascism, Gamergate was the Spanish Civil War of the Trump era.
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Aw shucks

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Ben Shapiro is trending for bad reasons(worse than normal?):
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This was on Rachel's page. I tried to find the tweet on his feed and gave up. I just don't wanna see any more there. Bunch of Pepe frogs.

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With 8chan still offline and its owner subpoenaed to appear before Congress, its former users are looking for new homes, and Gab is welcoming them with open arms. But before the influx of 8chan users, Gab had experienced a huge growth spurt in the first half of 2019, a worrying sign for those concerned about the spread of hateful ideologies and radicalization online.
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Thanks for that article Vox, I have a Gab account but haven't looked in months, I check Parler weekly or so but they are both such awful, negative places. Good to have them in their own farm pens though, most won't even see them.

Judge Jeanine wrote another book, how prolific of her with all the research and fact checking she surely did. This launch party story was in Jim Hoft's Gateway House of Boys and Pundits, with the people involved they qualify as dangerous trolls. Written by Cassandra Fairbanks, one step away from total banishment herself. It's a who's who of liars, charlatans, seniors and misfits who got lucky. Appropriate venue though! :thumbs:
Judge Jeanine Pirro Celebrates Book Launch Alongside Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle
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Judge Jeanine Pirro celebrated the launch of her newest book, Radicals, Resistance and Revenge with some of the biggest names in GOP politics at The Stand Restaurant and Comedy Club in New York City on Monday evening. Republican donors, pundits, and former elected officials flooded the venue to enjoy wine, margarita pizza slices, and remarks from the Judge about the 2020 election.

While Eric and Lara Trump joined Judge Jeanine last year for the launch of her previous title, Liars, Leakers, and Liberals, this year’s book launch featured another member of the Trump family: Donald Trump Jr. Arriving alongside his partner and Trump campaign advisor Kimberly Guilfoyle, Trump Jr. chatted and posed for photographs with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Red Apple Group CEO John Catsimatidis, former NYC police commissioner Bernie Kerik, and Daily Caller video columnist Stephanie Hamill were also in attendance. Finance heavyweight Stan Bharti from Toronto was seen with Newsmax TV Host John Tabacco. [A DREAM COME TRUE, RIGHT?]

“Women can look up to her [She's 5'4", tallest is Tucker at 6'1" but he wasn't there, hmmm] and men can learn a thing or two from her,” Guilfoyle said of her friend to applause from guests. Judge Jeanine likewise praised Guilfoyle’s work on the president’s reelection campaign. Picking up where her #1 New York Times bestseller, Liars, Leakers and Liberals, left off, Judge Jeanine Pirro of Fox’s Justice with Judge Jeanine exposes the latest chapter in the unfolding liberal attack on our most basic values.
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Guimberly Kilfoyle belongs in the Sex Robot thread. No way that's a actual hoomin. :nope:
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Jacob Engels is a disgusting human, he was in Broward during the election recount using a bullhorn to harass people. Twitter has banned him and he's been butthurt. He's Roger Stone's mini-me, he was coordinating the stuff that got Roger in hot water. He's in Orlando. Apparently, according to Laura Loomer's stye, he's now banned from PayPal. All these troll kids are going to have a hell of a time in the future, who will employ them? Another tactic of theirs is to try to make idiots like Jacob sympathetic by saying he's gay... shameful, his sexuality had nothing to do with it.

In other news, I don't believe it, but Jack Posobiec said he's leaving Twitter. 21 hours ago. Great news if hes not lying for once.




PayPal Bans Pro-Trump Gay Floridian Journalist During Hurricane Dorian
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Jacob Engels can no longer use the mobile payment services.

In yet another case of Big Tech censorship, conservative activist and reporter Jacob Engels was banned from Silicon Valley-owned mobile payment service PayPal, which owns Venmo. “The systematic extermination of conservatives and First Amendment defenders on PayPal is extremely dangerous,” Engels told LauraLoomer.us. “I have used the platform for years to pay collaborators for projects related to my journalistic endeavors.”

Engels, who is gay, said that he was not given any explanation for the ban, which is usually the case when Silicon Valley giants nuke accounts from their platforms. Normally, the platforms ban conservatives for generic “terms of service” violations. In this case, PayPal and Venmo said that Engels violated their “User Agreement:”

Facebook, which owns Instagram did, however, deviate from that standard when they banned Laura Loomer, Paul Joseph Watson, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Alex Jones from those platforms within minutes of each other, labeling them “dangerous individuals.” Of course, ISIS operates openly on Facebook-owned Instagram. That’s a separate bag of worms.

“PayPal refuses to provide myself or anyone with specific reasoning when they decide to purge you from their platform, simply stating that you have violated their ‘acceptable use policy’ and that your continued presence would put users on their platform ‘at risk,'” Engels said. “What risk does an LGBT journalist pose to PayPal and Venmo?” PayPal’s online support confirmed Engels’ ban, and froze his money for 180 days:

Engels, a resident of Florida, said that he never violated PayPal’s policies, but that it was particularly dangerous for them to freeze his accounts as Hurricane Dorian made landfall. “Having processed hundreds, if not thousands of transactions both big and small on their platforms, I have never once violated their rules or policies,” he said. “They decided to ban me and freeze my funds as Hurricane Dorian was barreling towards Florida. What if my PayPal balance was my only way of paying for shelter, food, or a ticket out of the eye of the storm? PayPal essentially decided that because I refuse totalitarian left-wing groupthink, that I don’t deserve to exist. 1933 called… Hitler and Goebbels want their policies back.”

This is the second Big Tech ban that had wider implications due to the monstrous storm making its way up the east coast. While Uber and Lyft provided free or discounted rides to hurricane relief shelters, Laura Loomer is banned from those platforms. They essentially decided that her life was worth less because of her political views, and apparently would not have driven her to a shelter if she needed their help.

We reported Tuesday:

Our own Laura Loomer, who lives in Palm Beach County, directly in the path of the massive storm that is expected to pummel Florida, is banned from using both services for alleged “hate speech”. Both services banned Loomer in 2017 for criticizing Islam after a Muslim Uber driver and immigrant from Uzbekistan, Sayfullo Saipov, purposefully plowed over 12 people in a bike lane in New York City, killing eight. The Islamic immigrant Uber driver pledged allegiance to ISIS and started shouting Allahu Akbar with a gun in his hand after he killed 8 people with a car.

One thing is clear: Big Tech, which must be reigned in, has not completely thought through the negative ramifications that could arise for people who are banned from using their services, simply for harboring conservative political beliefs.
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If Obama had met with the Taliban, the deplorables would have screamed bloody murder. Granted, only Nixon could go to China.
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Orlylicious wrote:
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No, it's not conservative beliefs, it's hate speech, inciting sedition and riots, and breaking the law.
Silly me, and here I was beginning to think those were becoming conservative beliefs. Just sayin'.
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Northland10 wrote:
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If Obama had met with the Taliban, the deplorables would have screamed bloody murder. Granted, only Nixon could go to China.
IIRC people didn't even want them in the country - even held at Super Max prisons. Taliban was held at Gitmo.
I don't see that this was posted.
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Lt. Col. Allen West: The U.S. Negotiating With Former Gitmo Detainees As Part Of Taliban Negotiating Delegation Should Make Every Single Person Who Served In Afghanistan Sick To Their Stomach

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FILE - In this Wednesday, Feb. 6, 2019 file photo, Taliban Mullah Abbas Stanikzai, center, attends "intra-Afghan" talks in Moscow, Russia. On Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2019, the Taliban announced a 14-member negotiating team ahead of talks this month with U.S. envoy Zalmay Khalilzad, who has been meeting with the insurgents to try to end America’s longest war. Mullah Abbas Stanikzai heads the Taliban team announced Monday, which includes five former inmates of the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay who were released in 2014 in exchange for a captured American soldier. (AP Photo/Pavel Golovkin, File)

Lt. Col. Allen West (Ret) spoke with Brian Kilmeade about the Taliban including five former inmates from Guantanamo Bay who were released in 2014 in exchange for U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl as part of their 14 member negotiating team with the U.S. envoy to formally end the war in Afghanistan.
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Notorial Dissent wrote:
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:snippity: :snippity:
No, it's not conservative beliefs, it's hate speech, inciting sedition and riots, and breaking the law.
Silly me, and here I was beginning to think those were becoming conservative beliefs. Just sayin'.
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Deplatforming hurts the professional trolls/grifters the most. No audience = no income.

I've heard this bull before.

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If Reagan had met with the Taliban, he would have won the Nobel Prize for inventing the time machine. He is meeting with the Mujaheddin, later to become part of the Northern Alliance that the US backed in 2001 to attempt to evict the Taliban. (The Taliban are the grown up children of the people the Mujaheddin, in the early 80's, drove into exile into refugee camps in Pakistan. NB. they're still pissed about it.) This is just another mislabeled picture (a lie really) circulated by the right (probably to my in-laws.)

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