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I keep encouraging my sister-in-law to get vaccinated. She's extremely busy - and I agree that she is - and she's concerned about having to take a few days off if she had bad side effects. But when I saw her yesterday and pointed out that Walmart in her city has lots of available appointments, she's also picky and wants a pfizer vaccine instead of the Moderna one that Walmart uses. :brickwallsmall: The family is good about following pandemic protocols, so it's only a moderate worry, but I still worry. My SIL is one of the really, really good people on earth.
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Blood Clots and the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine: What We Know So Far
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ow-so-far/

There's still a lot to learn about it.
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My youngest sister with some significant health issues just posted a photo on Facebook of her receiving her first Pfizer jab. Because of some medications, this is the first opportunity she's had to receive it. Her pulmonologist gave her the go ahead earlier this week.

I feel like doing a dance every time I hear of a friend or relative getting a shot. :dance:
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Lani wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:15 am Well, I guess the vaccines are working! A couple and their 2 little children visited a neighbor island. Upon return, the kids had covid, hopefully mild. :( But the parents, who were vaccinated, are well.

In another family, 2 people visited friends on a neighbor island and became ill just after return. In a couple of days, all 9 members of the family had covid. (They are being tested to see what variant it is.) The good news if that none of their contacts who were vaccinated have become ill.
UPDATE: It's the B1.429 (California) variant, which is more easily transmissible. We have more cases everyday as it spreads. So far, no one who has completed vaccination has it. Yet. People with only the first shot are ill. Sadly, more children have covid than in the past. This variant is dominant on the 2 largest islands and spreading quickly on the other islands.

Radio stations, local tv shows, newspapers and government agencies are practically yelling at people to go get their damn shots. We don't want another shutdown. Sites are everywhere, with or without an appointment. During the past 2 weeks I worked with several agencies to open a multilingual clinic, complete with all written information in 11 languages, interpreters onsite, and free transportation.

Masks are still required almost everywhere. Bike & pedestrian paths, beach parks, and the dog park don't require masks if we socially distance. It was wonderful today when Ted & I went to his park. Happy dogs playing together once again, people smiling (cuz no mask!) at each other.
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https://politicalwire.com/2021/04/25/mi ... cine-shot/
More than 5 million people have skipped their second shot of the COVID-19 vaccine, the New York Times reports.

“The reasons vary for why people are missing their second shots. In interviews, some said they feared the side effects, which can include flulike symptoms. Others said they felt that they were sufficiently protected with a single shot.”
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Yeah, well today we have 8 more people with the California variant, some of whom had one shot. They had a lot of close contacts, and all contacts have been ordered to quarantine. Which means all of the contacts were not vaccinated or only had one shot. (Contacts who are fully vaccinated do not have to quarantine. They have to monitor themselves for symptoms and DOH checks in with them.) Dumb decision, guys! :mad: If this continues a few more days, we are going to have more restrictions.
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West Virginia Will Pay Young People $100 To Get Vaccinated Against COVID-19
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... t-covid-19
Young people who get the COVID-19 vaccine in West Virginia won't just gain protection against a deadly virus — they'll also make money.

The state will offer a $100 savings bond to everyone between the ages of 16 and 35 who gets vaccinated, Gov. Jim Justice, a Republican, announced at a Monday briefing. It's part of an ongoing push to get shots into the arms of younger residents, who have been largely slow to roll up their sleeves so far.

"Our kids today probably don't really realize just how important they are in shutting this thing down," Justice said. "I'm trying to come up with a way that's truly going to motivate them — and us — to get over the hump."

The initiative will apply retroactively to people in this age group who have already gotten their shots. It is funded with money from the CARES Act, with Justice adding that officials have "vetted this in every way that we possibly can."

West Virginia's vaccine rollout got off to a famously strong start earlier this year. Despite challenges such as a widespread lack of Internet access, the largely rural state had managed to fully vaccinate such a large percentage of its eligible population by late February that, had it been a country, it would have ranked third in the world.

But as eligibility expanded, the pace of vaccinations slowed. The state now ranks 29th in the country, according to NPR's vaccine tracker, which says 29% of the population has been fully vaccinated and 35.3% has had at least one dose.
Of course, savings bonds are issued at 50% of the face value, must be held for at least 1 year, and typically take 20 years to mature to face value. But hey, it's still an incentive.
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Pfizer CEO: Oral drug to prevent COVID-19 could be ready next year
https://www.axios.com/pfizer-oral-antiv ... d532f.html
An oral antiviral drug to stop the virus that causes COVID-19 from replicating could be ready next year "if all goes right," Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla told CNBC on Tuesday, adding that the drug should work against all variants of the virus.

Why it matters: Antiviral drugs can be a key pandemic-fighting tool, since not everyone will get a vaccine and it may take years to fully vaccinate people in certain countries around the world, Axios' Alison Snyder reports.

Of note: So far, remdesivir — a drug investigated earlier to treat Ebola and other diseases — is the only antiviral approved in the U.S. for COVID-19.

What they're saying: Bourla said Pfizer is working on two antiviral drugs, one injectable and the other oral.

"Particularly, the attention is on the oral," Bourla said,"because it provides several advantages. One of them is you don't have to go to the hospital to get the treatment, which is the case with all of the injectables so far. You can get it at home. That would be a game-changer."

He said the antiviral drug should be "way more effective against multiple variants."

What's next: Bourla said the company would have more news about the drug around summer.
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Ruby red West Virginia is now a bastion of socialism what with the savings bond giveaway. (And don't get me started on that other bastion of socialism, Alaska.)
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It migh help ever so slightly that the gov was once a Democrat.
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Here most of our vaccine sites are now walk-in in an attempt to get more people vaccinated. Like everywhere else, fewer people were keeping their appointments. :mad:

Meanwhile, in my area we have increasing community spread of the 2 variants. Thanks mostly to the un-vaccinated assholes who went to work, schools, and social events for days while ill. Lots of close contacts are getting a surprise visit from DOH.
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A close friend of mine doesn't drive and has to rely on biking, public transit (not an option in pandemic), or rides from friends. She was able to get signed up for the Pfizer shot three weeks ago today. Independently, another close mutual friend signed up for the shot at the same time and place, and so they were able to go together, and even sat next to each other when getting the shot. Today is shot #2. But last Friday, the second friend got exposed to a co-worker who had been symptomatic for a week, but kept on coming to work. Monday, she got the call - week of PTO and a nasal swab at the end, and she has to reschedule her second shot. So today I get to take the first friend in to get her shot, since I'm the only one in the group that's fully vaxxed.
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Moving in the wrong direction. :mad:

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New: Per the White House, Biden will set a new target: vaccinating 70% of all adult Americans w/some 160M fully vaccinated by July 4th.
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Lani wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:09 am Crap.
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LM K wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:48 pm
Lani wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:09 am Crap.
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Lani wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 5:37 pm
LM K wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:48 pm
Lani wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:09 am Crap.
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I did not go the the Kennedy Center and I did not get a beer. :(

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Brilliant opinion piece by David Brooks.

Our Pathetic Herd Immunity Failure
Could today’s version of America have been able to win World War II? It hardly seems possible.

That victory required national cohesion, voluntary sacrifice for the common good and trust in institutions and each other. America’s response to Covid-19 suggests that we no longer have sufficient quantities of any of those things.

In 2020 Americans failed to socially distance and test for the coronavirus and suffered among the highest infection and death rates in the developed world. Millions decided that wearing a mask infringed their individual liberty.

This week my Times colleague Apoorva Mandavilli reported that experts now believe that America will not achieve herd immunity anytime soon. Instead of largely beating this disease it could linger, as a more manageable threat, for generations. A major reason is that about 30 percent of the U.S. population is reluctant to get vaccinated.

We’re not asking you to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima; we’re asking you to walk into a damn CVS.

Americans have always been an individualistic people who don’t like being told what to do. But in times of crisis, they have historically still had the capacity to form what Alexis de Tocqueville called a “social body,” a coherent community capable of collective action. During World War I, for example, millions served at home and abroad to win a faraway war, responding to recruiting posters that read “I Want You” and “Americans All.”

That basic sense of peoplehood, of belonging to a common enterprise with a shared destiny, is exactly what’s lacking today. Researchers and reporters who talk to the vaccine-hesitant find that the levels of distrust, suspicion and alienation that have marred politics are now thwarting the vaccination process. They find people who doubt the competence of the medical establishment or any establishment, who assume as a matter of course that their fellow countrymen are out to con, deceive and harm them.
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A lot of Americans have seceded from the cultural, political and social institutions of national life. As a result, the nation finds it hard to perform collective action. Our pathetic Covid response may not be the last or worst consequence of this condition.
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LM K wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:03 am Brilliant opinion piece by David Brooks.

Our Pathetic Herd Immunity Failure
He's correct on many fronts here -- but why is he only saying it now? :confuzzled: He's a convective who is only now speaking up? We are in this place because of people like David Brooks. :talktothehand:
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Sounds right. The nation has splintered. As much as I didn't like Bush II, I rallied with everybody else after the assault of 9/11. Those days are gone.

Where I live, one of the safest places in the US, numbers are rising. Unfortunately, 25% to 30% are children 16 and under. People think kids will be fine, but no one knows what problems will appear as time goes on. COVID-19 attacks the vascular system. Kids don't get an MRI to see what changes have occurred. I suspect that in a few years from now, we'll see a crisis of vascular disorders in young adults. This is a virus that keeps on hurting us in ways that we don't yet understand or know.

I'm an expert in EEO and ADA. The biggest issue in my area that we are now facing is the long term effects of COVID-19 on employees. The second issue is employees demanding to work from home because of COVID-19, but also refuse to be vaccinated. :roll:
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And I can blame Bush II for being a large part of shattering it, with his "Ok that's done, now Iraq!" That laid the groundwork for people believing in 2 realities as he was blowing such complete bollox that people had to turn off their brain to swallow it.
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Yeah, when that happened, I told our kid's dad that I was him sending to Oz so he couldn't be sent to Iraq. I saw what was happening.
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Hitler was just the flu anyway. :smoking:
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