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I’d have arrested her for those Meangurl gestures alone. I’d never let anyone talk to me like that. :notlistening:
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northland10 wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:27 pm We will show people we are Christian by our love, not by our loud mouth whining. If you have to scream you are Christian to defend what you are doing, you are not.
Yep. When I'm confronted by a person yelling at me that they're a Christian, I remind them that I will know them by their acts, not by how loudly they yell.
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Lani-

Loved the comebacks!!!! Where were you when I was 22 and living in south "almost Louisiana" Arkansas and the first question asked in polite society was "what church do you go to"?

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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:26 am Lani-

Loved the comebacks!!!! Where were you when I was 22 and living in south "almost Louisiana" Arkansas and the first question asked in polite society was "what church do you go to"?

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Then I found Joseph Campbell 's The Power of Myth. Bill Moyers summarized that myths are stories of the search by men and women through the ages for meaning, for significance, to make life signify, to touch the eternal, to understand the mysterious, to find out who we are. I have the Power of Myth on discs and the book. I return to it when life seems unbearable and it comforts me.
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northland10 wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:27 pm We will show people we are Christian by our love, not by our loud mouth whining. If you have to scream you are Christian to defend what you are doing, you are not.
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Linking to three peer-reviewed articles showing that masks reduce transmission unsurprisingly led to a Gallups' block.
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Lani wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:55 pm
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:26 am Lani-

Loved the comebacks!!!! Where were you when I was 22 and living in south "almost Louisiana" Arkansas and the first question asked in polite society was "what church do you go to"?

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I was busy learning things, like how we all long to understand our existence.

I was fortunate to grow up with friends with different religions. One of my college classes required me to respond to a BBC documentary - The Long Search, 1977. Basically, it's about we all search for meaning.

Then I found Joseph Campbell 's The Power of Myth. Bill Moyers summarized that myths are stories of the search by men and women through the ages for meaning, for significance, to make life signify, to touch the eternal, to understand the mysterious, to find out who we are. I have the Power of Myth on discs and the book. I return to it when life seems unbearable and it comforts me.
In the lists of "the greatest [guitarist, drummer, poet, ...] you never heard of", Joseph Campbell is the Philosopher. But he would never call himself that. I don't think he ever agreed to a description for his profession, beyond the obvious one of "teacher". Maybe "collector" or even "writer". Certainly not "anthropologist".

The Power of Myth, is great, but have you read "The Masks Of God"? Or "The Hero With A Thousand Faces"?

There is a book, can't recall the author at the moment, that puts forth the proposition that hundreds of movies are directly based on Campbell's explanations of myth, from Sleepless in Seatle to The Little Mermaid.
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Pinching myself from the glamour, the excitement of interacting with... Carl Gallups! Carl was doing his anti-mask rant and saying how masks let virus particles through. He highlighted an FDA article. While yes on airborne, the same article talks about masks preventing droplets & splatter that can contain COVID.

He calls himself THE REAL ONE... are there fake Carls?

Pastor Carl Gallups (THE REAL ONE carlgallups.com) @CarlGallups Apr 21
#FDA says masks don't stop viruses. FL vs. CA, MI, PN. stats say masks don't stop viruses. Surgeons KNOW that masks don't stop viruses. So, tell me again, why are you still wearing a mask? Don't give me emotions. Or "rules" of tyrants. Give me science. Real science. Documented.

OrlyLicious Flag of United States @Orly_licious Apr 21
Why then do you think surgeons, doctors, and nurses have always worn masks, including before COVID, in the operating room and hospitals?

Pastor Carl Gallups (THE REAL ONE carlgallups.com) @CarlGallups 1h
Replying to @Orly_licious
I have answered this many times.* ANY doc will tell you they don't wear them for viruses. They don't work. If they have a cold virus (corona) they are not allowed to operate, even with a mask. Ask one. They wear them to keep spit, puke, and snot out of patient's body cavity.

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Also, the FDA clearly says they don't stop viruses...
FDA - Masks don't stop viruses. SEE the section called SURGICAL MASKS - scroll down a little bit
N95 Respirators, Surgical Masks, and Face Masks
N95 respirators, surgical masks, and face masks are examples of personal protective equipment that are used to protect the wearer from airborne particles
fda.gov
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Thanks. From FDA link, they don't stop airborne but do stop "large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays, or splatter that may contain germs (viruses & bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth & nose. Also help reduce your saliva & respiratory secretions to others." We agree.




* Dammit! If Bob had kept listening to Freedom Friday, would have known this :(
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Can't imagine why, but Pastor Pornstache blocked me.

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Can I point out the hilarity of including “THE REAL ONE” in your profile when you have 414 followers and are literally a Twitter nobody?
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I'm about ready to fully embrace the Darwinian model with these folks.
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Blocked as well and didn't even give him a hard time, what a snowflake. Because he blocked me, couldn't see his reply:

Pastor Carl Gallups (THE REAL ONE carlgallups.com) @CarlGallups 11h
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Actually, that's not what it says at all. Germs are NOT viruses and bacteria. The paragraph I sent you, comes after the one you sent me and clarifies that. So we don't agree. You've misunderstood the FDA statement completely.

Dude, it was a direct quote and it's common sense... viruses and bacteria attach to fluids. What an idiot. :lol:


This is nutz, it was on Ali Akbar's Telegram posted by a fan:

ETA: Facebook has a "false information" screen on it, maybe that's why it won't embed. Broke the link, the crazy 3 minute video is still up

https:// www.facebook.com/thekeepersofchaim/post ... 1129433302

Facebook page “The Keepers Of Chaim” uploaded a video on March 14 that falsely claimed COVID-19 vaccines are being used to tag people, essentially making them “barcodes for life.” The video also claimed that COVID-19 vaccines will eventually alter the biological form of humans. The video, entitled “The Bar Code For Life,” featured an interview with a certain Celeste Solum. Solum was said to be a former officer of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the US agency responsible for assisting citizens during disasters. Solum said COVID-19 vaccines are being used to alter the human body, with the primary goal of mass extermination.

“So what will happen with the vaccine is you get it injected into you, and then it self-assembles. And then it swarms through your body and it crosses your blood-brain barrier and it takes over your brain. It harvests your fluids in your body, your moisture, as it grows and it grows until we’re no longer human,” Solum said. She then warned towards the end of the clip: “The only way to avoid it is to say no to the COVID test, to the vaccination.” This is false. COVID-19 vaccines do not work the way Solum described. FEMA also denied that Solum was ever an employee of the agency.

Although Solum did not mention a specific vaccine brand, the video showed the logo of American pharmaceutical company Pfizer. Together with German biotechnology company BioNTech, Pfizer developed a vaccine for COVID-19 that introduces messenger RNA (mRNA) into the body. Instead of the traditional way where the antigen is injected into the body, mRNA vaccines give the body the genetic code needed to produce the pathogen’s antigen itself. This spurs an immune response, which teaches the body how to defeat similar antigens in the future. They are not used to track or identify people.

There are also no indications that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines can “take over” the human brain. According to Pfizer, potential side effects of its COVID-19 vaccine include injection site pain, fatigue, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, fever, injection site swelling, injection site redness, nausea, malaise, and enlargement of the lymph nodes. In June 2020, Reuters debunked a related claim from Solum that COVID-19 testing will “harvest” all the fluids in a person’s body. In its article, Reuters reported that a representative from FEMA said the agency “has no record of a Celeste Solum having ever been a FEMA employee.”

Several readers sent the video containing this claim to Rappler’s email and to the Facebook group “Fact-checking in the Philippines” for verification. As of writing, the video had over 222,000 views on Facebook, 14,100 shares, 6,800 reactions, and 1,900 comments.
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Meanwhile in England, people are donning yellow stars with “no covid certificates” on them. Photos from
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Vaccine Passports are not Yellow Stars

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Needless to say a "vaccine passport," a digital system which would allow businesses to only allow entry to people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19, is nothing like the mandatory marking of Jews by repressive governments including but not limited to Nazi Germany on its way to Holocaust. But the Holocaust, and Yellow Stars in particular, is the favorite metaphor of the American right when complaining about government taking action to promote the public good.

First, the GOP compared masks to yellow stars, whereas in fact requiring people to put a small strip of fabric over their lower faces in order to not to spray their mouth juices into the air during an airborne global pandemic event seems like a pretty good idea rather than a sign of the intent to murder a marginalized minority. Now, the GOP (and some Kentucky libertarian group) is comparing vaccine passports to yellow stars, with the historical analogy picking up steam on twitter (note this is a live search link, so it may change).

The idea of a vaccine passport is actually pretty complicated from a civil liberties perspective and I'm not sure how to make it work. We currently do have vaccine verifications in a number of contexts, but creating a system for any business to use is nothing like the way we currently work through local school systems for our kids, or through immigration offices when traveling abroad. How do we safely create a massive database of everyone who has been vaccinated, with protections for people who are immune suppressed (herd immunity matters to protect my disabled community!) if they can't be vaccinated? What I do know is that lots of ventures for vaccine passports have already launched, they are all over the place in terms of development and complexity, and we really need centralized oversight. So far, the Biden Administration seems on top of the challenge (that could change!), but the news that they are looking into this has set the right wing off.

So here come the wild historical analogies comparing those who choose not to be vaccinated to Jews under the Nazis, while ALSO comparing the vaccine passport (i.e. the symbol that one is vaccinated) to a yellow star. Not only is it an offensive analogy, it's incoherent. The vaccine passport is a VIP pass. It's a guess pass. It's a key. It's a permission slip. It's not a yellow star.
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Volkonski wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:08 pm David M. Perry@Lollardfish
Meanwhile in England, people are donning yellow stars with “no covid certificates” on them. Photos from
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Vaccine Passports are not Yellow Stars
And here I thought it was just Americans who were the assholes... take that shit off. :mad2: :cussing: :smokeears:
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neonzx wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:42 pm
Volkonski wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 6:08 pm David M. Perry@Lollardfish
Meanwhile in England, people are donning yellow stars with “no covid certificates” on them. Photos from
@chloe_adlestone.

Vaccine Passports are not Yellow Stars
And here I thought it was just Americans who were the assholes... take that shit off. :mad2: :cussing: :smokeears:
Anyone being such a shit should be forced onto a truck at gunpoint for destination unpleasant*!

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It has been reported that badges have been worn in Vancouver, Prague, London, Munich (and other German cities), and Avignon, Tweeted by a member The Hague City Council, even on a banner in Tel Aviv.
America is not alone in having despicable people with absolutely no respect or sense of decency. Good idea Dave.
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JUNEAU — Alaska Airlines said Saturday that it has banned state Sen. Lora Reinbold, R-Eagle River, from its flights for continuing to refuse to follow mask-wearing requirements for travelers.

“We have notified Senator Lora Reinbold that she is not permitted to fly with us for her continued refusal to comply with employee instruction regarding the current mask policy,” spokesman Tim Thompson said by email.

“This suspension is effective immediately, pending further review. Federal law requires all guests to wear a mask over their nose and mouth at all times during travel, including throughout the flight, during boarding and deplaning, and while traveling through an airport,” he said.

The ban cast uncertainty on how Reinbold might rejoin the Alaska Senate when legislative work resumes Monday. No other airline has regularly scheduled direct flights between Anchorage and Juneau.
There are no roads into and out of Juneau. She's going to have to get creative, but it won't be easy or cheap. :biggrin:
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Republicans want capitalism and business rights fully "protected" until it inconveniences them.

Alaska Air isn't going to budge on this. They can't. If they do, they lose all control on masking ... and will have their asses handed to them by the FAA.
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AndyinPA wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:48 pm https://www.adn.com/politics/alaska-leg ... sk-policy/

There are no roads into and out of Juneau. She's going to have to get creative, but it won't be easy or cheap. :biggrin:
And very time consuming. And may possibly make it hard to show up for every vote.
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LM K wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:55 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:48 pm https://www.adn.com/politics/alaska-leg ... sk-policy/

There are no roads into and out of Juneau. She's going to have to get creative, but it won't be easy or cheap. :biggrin:
And very time consuming. And may possibly make it hard to show up for every vote.
She can take the ferry.
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She could swim....
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It took Reinbold 14 hours to get to Anchorage. :rotflmao:
Reinbold scrambled on Sunday to get to Juneau via an arduous 14-plus-hour car ride, including a jaunt through Canada, to reach a ferry to the capital.

Last month, she was banned from most of the Capitol for refusing to follow mask rules.

Outside of the legislature, meanwhile, Reinbold has taken particular umbrage at Alaska Airlines rules requiring her to mask up on flights. In November, she posted a screed to Facebook to complain that a “scaredy cat Karen whined loudly and was a Tattle tail when I took my dumb worthless suffocating mask off, a bit longer than she wanted, for my food and drink.”

In a later post, she encouraged travelers to evade Alaska’s rules requiring a negative coronavirus test to enter the state, writing “sneak by if you are bold [for] they cannot force you.”
How long is she willing to drive 28 hours round trip to get to work? And are taxpayers footing hotel accommodations as she stays in Juneau more nights than usual?
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Google Maps says the trip takes 19 hours and 40 minutes including the ferry trip.
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