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Good to hear, hope it clears soon. :thumbsup:
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A Florida chiropractor signed hundred of medical exemptions for kids in the Sarasota Country School District.

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How it started (3/6/21): Parents encouraging kids to burn masks on Idaho Capitol steps

How it's going (9/16/21): BREAKING: All of Idaho is in a hospital resource crisis, allowing rationed health care, per @IDHW.
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Sequoia32 wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:20 pm One of my cat ladies (who claims her Doc told her not to get the vaccine because she is immunocompromised...) says an ER nurse at Adventist Hospital in Lodi told her all of the Covid patients in the ICU are vaccinated.

---snip---
From Adventist Health:
COVID-19 vaccines are effective and help to protect you from infection, hospitalization, death and reinfection for those who have already had COVID-19. Admissions at our Lodi hospital from Aug 29 – Sep 4, 2021 were made up of 21 unvaccinated, 5 unknown, 3 partially vaccinated & 7 vaccinated patients. Thank you so much for taking the time to ask. You can DM us or email myexperience@ah.org if you have additional questions, would like to discuss further or provide us more information.
I'll bet the vaccinated patients were compromised health-wise.
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Lani wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:19 am
Sam the Centipede wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:59 am :bighug: Poor Lani!
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Back when I worked in IT and helped evaluate workgroup and company wide software selections, one of our criteria was that it had to be robust going forward. We never would have considered a software program dependent on just a single person.
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It is beyond hilarious to me that after all the complaints about what the ACA would do and how it would cause rationing of care it's the stupidity of the conservatives that is causing the rationing of care in multiple red states (who probably didn't take part in the ACA and now are paying the price.)
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:24 pm https:// twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1438552885764177925?s=20

Back when I worked in IT and helped evaluate workgroup and company wide software selections, one of our criteria was that it had to be robust going forward. We never would have considered a software program dependent on just a single person.
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Jim wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:03 pm It is beyond hilarious to me that after all the complaints about what the ACA would do and how it would cause rationing of care it's the stupidity of the conservatives that is causing the rationing of care in multiple red states (who probably didn't take part in the ACA and now are paying the price.)
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A FL Chiropractor has been handing out mask exemption forms like crazy.

At first he claimed he was meeting with parents and their children. He was not. Parents lined up and received pre-signed forms. The chiropractor didn't evaluate the children he was claiming to diagnose.

He signed over 500 exemption forms in just a few days.

New policy for school district after Venice chiropractor signs 500+ mask exemptions Sarasota students
A chiropractor in Venice provided more than 500 medical exemption forms for children attending Sarasota County Schools who did not want to wear a mask.

Dan Busch, a chiropractor at Twin Palms Chiropractic, has signed roughly one-third of all medical exemption forms turned in district-wide, district spokesman Craig Maniglia said Wednesday morning.

As a result, the district has tightened up its policy of what categories of medical professionals can sign an exemption.
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After the influx of forms signed by Busch, and amid rumors that his office was distributing pre-signed forms, Superintendent Brennan Asplen issued an updated mask exemption form Tuesday evening stating that exemption forms can only be signed by medical doctors, osteopathic physicians licensed or advanced registered nurse practitioners.
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Various media reports over the last week have shown families in lines wrapping around Busch's practice, and some families have told news reporters that they simply grabbed a pre-signed form off of the counter.
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Venice chiropractor defends signing school mask exemption forms, as school board limits who can sign them
Many say chiropractor Dr. Dan Busch is a hero to them, while others say he should have his license revoked.

Busch signed more than 100 medical exemptions for students on Monday who wish to opt-out of wearing a mask in Sarasota County schools. Sarasota is on a growing list of school districts that are again requiring students and staff to wear masks to help stop the spread of COVID-19.

But there are some who say Busch has overstepped his area of expertise. Busch disagrees.

“Every evaluation that I performed was very specific and I performed them in my scope of practice,” said Busch. “I had to stay very specific to the diagnoses that were in my wheelhouse, there are plenty that weren’t.”
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Busch defended his actions to ABC7 Tuesday afternoon. “I have not directly heard from the school district but I am more than happy to sit down with the school district,” said Busch. “I’m not trying to do something that’s shady, irrefutable, unethical. I’ll sit down, I would be happy to come to them.”

Busch says he turned away numerous people, however, he says he also helped many people in need of mask relief.

“What was so touching is that how many people actually broke down crying because they felt so helpless, and it hit me to have that opportunity to allow the parents to have a choice,” said Busch.


Before the school board’s announcement, Busch said another event could happen at his office this weekend, and might include medical doctors who want to help.
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Families line up outside Venice chiropractor’s office to get medical exemption forms for school mask mandate
Families were lined up outside a chiropractor’s office in Venice on Monday night hoping to get medical exemption forms for their children in response to Sarasota County’s new school mask mandate.

The mask mandate in Sarasota County schools went into effect on Monday and, while the district says compliance so far has been good, they are dealing with a few challenges vetting medical exemption forms. As the district works through the exemptions to make sure they’re valid and correct, some parents are voicing concerns over the local chiropractor, who confirms to 8 On Your Side he’s signed dozens of exemption forms in the past week.

Paulina Testerman says she was in disbelief when she heard claims that Twin Palms Chiropractic was offering up mask exemptions to anyone who wanted one. Her family went to check things out for themselves.

“We were in and out, came in, signed a clipboard and handed a sheet,” Testerman said. “Nobody asked to see our children. The forms were pre-signed, there was a stack behind the counter and they were just passed out.”

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8 On Your Side spoke with Dr. Dan Busch outside his attorney’s office to get his side.

“This is not a political thing. I am not an anti-mask person or an anti-vax person, but I am a pro-freedom, pro-choice person,” Dr. Busch said.

The chiropractor told us his policy is to meet with the student and their legal guardian to see whether or not they qualify for an exemption.

“I myself, I will tell you I have not given exemptions to any parents that I have not met with,” Busch said.

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Testerman says she wants to know why parents don’t just go to their pediatrician for a mask waiver.

That answer is really quite simple. Pediatricians are trained to diagnose and treat children and they recognize the dangers that COVID presents,” she said. “Signing a mask waiver would go against one of their tenants of their Hippocratic oath [to] do no harm.”

Complaint filed against Venice chiropractor signing medical exemptions for students
A Suncoast healthcare professional and grandparent has filed a formal complaint against a Venice chiropractor, saying signing hundreds of medical exemption forms to allow students to not wear masks in school is outside the scope of his license.

“In order to make a decision like that, patients need to be under their (doctor’s) care,” said Janet Bryan. “They need to be evaluated, they need to be seen with a chiropractic condition.”

Bryan said she filed the complaint with the Florida Department of Health, which issues state licenses to healthcare professionals, including chiropractors.


Busch has signed hundreds of medical exemption forms for students in the Sarasota County School District. His lawyer, Bryan Kessler, says all of the exemption forms that were signed are legitimate, even as he told ABC7 that the school district has rejected every form signed by Busch.
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The school district has since amended it’s exemption form, to clarify only medical doctors, osteopathic physicians and advanced nurse practitioners can sign them.

Bryan provided ABC7 with a copy of her letter to the Department of Health. In it, she alleges many parents showed up at Busch’s office without their children and still received signed forms. “There would be no knowledge and training to diagnose the patient with illness that would need an exemption. Most pediatricians have refused to give these waivers to protect them in our public health emergency except for an extremely rare instance when it is truly warranted,” she wrote.

She also says Busch has not produced chiropractic records “showing diagnosis and the need for exemption or even for a chiropractic need.”

Bryan says Busch’s actions need to be investigated. “He’s not directly treating these conditions and he should have referred them back to a specialist that are treating those individuals for those conditions,” she said.

Kessler dismissed Bryan’s concerns. “It’s very hard for somebody standing on the outside to say whether or not Dr. Busch was practicing within his scope, as a licensed chiropractic physician without actually being there,” he said.

Meanwhile, Busch is not deterred, saying he is planning an event Sept. 11 where several medical doctors will sign the new forms for parents who do not want their children to follow the school mask mandate.
Busch signed 100 forms in one day. How could he evaluate 100 patients in one day? And he diagnosed children by only talking to their parent?

Busch was planning an event on Sept 11, but I can't find anything showing that the event happened.

I think this guy could actually lose his license for this. He's diagnosing alleged patients without meeting the patient.

I hope he does lose his license.
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I've been thinking that maybe the federal government should stop covering the hospital bills of unvaccinated COVID patients.
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filly wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:24 pm

I've been thinking that maybe the federal government should stop covering the hospital bills of unvaccinated COVID patients.
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Fox doesn’t suffer covidiots in their midst. Unless they are named Tucker Carlson.
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RTH10260 wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:24 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:24 pm https:// twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1438552885764177925?s=20

Back when I worked in IT and helped evaluate workgroup and company wide software selections, one of our criteria was that it had to be robust going forward. We never would have considered a software program dependent on just a single person.
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Um, yeah. Using a vendor would normally provide compliance stuff, especially if done with a contract so it includes updates. They also might be their own Fundraising and Donor Management software or at least integrate with other packages.
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LM K wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:13 pm

Busch was planning an event on Sept 11, but I can't find anything showing that the event happened.

I think this guy could actually lose his license for this. He's diagnosing alleged patients without meeting the patient.

I hope he does lose his license.
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Another Ivermectin lawsuit.

She demanded a hospital treat her husband’s covid-19 with ivermectin. A judge said no.
After her husband was infected with the coronavirus and entered an intensive care unit this month, Angela Underwood pushed for the Louisville hospital that was treating him to administer ivermectin to her husband — the deworming drug some people have used to try to treat or prevent covid-19 in recent months.

She sued Norton Brownsboro Hospital after it allegedly refused to administer the treatment to Lonnie Underwood, 58, without a court order and supervision by a doctor with the authority to do so.

“As a Registered Nurse, I demand my husband be administered ivermectin whether by a Norton physician or another healthcare provider of my choosing including myself if necessary,” Angela Underwood wrote in the complaint filed last week, asking the court to designate the unproven treatment as “medically indicated.”

But a judge denied her emergency order request Wednesday in a scathing ruling that called out people who have promoted and supported ivermectin as an effective treatment for covid-19. Jefferson Circuit Judge Charles Cunningham, who said the court “cannot require a hospital to literally take orders from someone who does not routinely issue such orders,”
noted in his ruling how the Kentucky Supreme Court “only allows admission of scientific evidence based on sufficient facts or data.”
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Angela Underwood said on Facebook that her husband has been in the intensive care unit with covid since Sept. 6, in stable condition but on a ventilator.

She filed her lawsuit Sept. 9 in Jefferson County Circuit Court in the hopes of the Louisville hospital administering ivermectin to her ill husband. Her complaint was later amended to request her husband also be treated with “intravenous vitamin C,
” according to the Courier Journal.

“I am his healthcare advocate,” she wrote, according to the complaint. “The studies and research does show the effectiveness of the medication when given to those patients in the trial.”
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Although Angela Underwood had found a doctor to write an emergency privileges order for the drug, the hospital said in a court hearing that the physician “refused to come see his patient,” according to court records. She accused the hospital of prohibiting Rafael Cruz, an Indiana-based doctor, from treating her husband.
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“This is impractical because it is likely that no such hospital in the United States, or certainly in this region, agrees with Plaintiff,” Cunningham wrote. “Moreover, her husband’s medical circumstances may make such a transfer unjustifiably risky.”
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LM K wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:24 am Another Ivermectin lawsuit.

She demanded a hospital treat her husband’s covid-19 with ivermectin. A judge said no.
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“I am his healthcare advocate,” she wrote, according to the complaint. “The studies and research does show the effectiveness of the medication when given to those patients in the trial.”
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Did the lady not only say this thing in her complaint but also provide the references to the science she mentions?
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There was one test on test tubes, and she left out "...hen given in such a high concentration that it would cause an Ivermectin overdose."

But she is probably repeating what she has been told By Jim Hoft's house of sexual harassment opportunities and other dens of scum and villainy.
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These people that want to be treated with ivermectin need to follow Lin Wood and his elks lead- stay out of the hospitals! It’s win-win for everyone.

And antivax Texans need to stay in TX, why would they possibly go to NYC where vax is required everywhere? Dummies. Hope they face some consequences for their attack on that poor hostess.
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Why assault her because she followed the rules?

If you don't like the rules go find some other place to eat.

What did they imagine assaulting her would accomplish? Did they think the restaurant would back down?

Mrs. V was in Manhattan yesterday. After tending to her flute she had lunch. Showed her Texas proof of vaccination. No problem.

I also hope those embarrassments to the state of Texas will be prosecuted.

And be held at Rikers Island until trial.
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They went to NYC planning to cause trouble.
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