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Hypothetical: How To Create & Cash In On The Massive MAGAt Grifting? Design Your Own Grift

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Hypothetical: How To Create & Cash In On The Massive MAGAt Grifting? Design Your Own Grift

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This is a theoretical and hypothetical discussion.

As many here have pointed out, including Panda, it's revolting how much grifting is going on from the Trumper marks (and in some cases, Democrats too like on elections that were super long-shots at best).

We have wildly creative thinkers and specialists in data, legal, accounting, taxes, marketing, promotion, web design, security, and more.

So here's the question: What 501(c)(3) can we create that's totally legal, but allows us to get a piece of the hundreds of millions (literally, see DL2XIT after the election) of funds from the marks?

Trumpers are far easier to grift, a few flags and nasty language and they're in. For example, someone gets fired or shut down for breaking laws like that dude in Canada:
Adamson BBQ Legal Defence Fund

$349,774 CAD raised of $500,000 goal
6.5K donors 41.3K shares 6.7K followers

https://www.gofundme.com/f/adamson-bbq- ... fence-fund
Of course, from Taitz to Klayman, those were peanut grifts. The Fogbow is much more clever, we should be at Adamson BBQ or We Build The Wall levels.

So it could be a project we're raising money for (which we could actually do) like "Build A Sign Near Mar-A-Lago That Scrolls All of President T**** Accomplishments With a Countdown Clock to Inauguration 2025". That sounds like at least a $100,000 project.

There was the former data guy, Matt Braynard for T**** who raised over $200,000 for some bullsh*t "research" that was totally bogus but he kept the money. In this case, GoFundMe shut him down but he went to GiveSendGo or something. That's a mistake for us to be sure to avoid, we should probably use GiveSendGo:
GoFundMe takes down conservative fundraiser’s page for election misinformation
Matt Braynard, an early staffer in the 2016 Trump campaign, said he needed thousands of dollars to finance an investigation into unspecified voter fraud.
By MATTHEW CHOI 11/06/2020 09:08 PM EST

GoFundMe took down a conservative operative’s fundraising page on Friday, asserting that it was spreading misinformation about the 2020 election. Matt Braynard, who was an early staffer on the data team for the 2016 Trump campaign, set up the page to finance an investigation into voter fraud. He claimed on Twitter that he had data on absentee ballots and early voters in a number of key swing states and wanted to run them against Social Security and change-of-address databases to determine illegitimate votes.

Comparing the databases would require thousands of dollars, he claimed in a series of tweets on Thursday. He turned to GoFundMe after being unable to get support from the Republican Party or President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign. But GoFundMe removed the page the following day, saying that it violated the site’s terms of service and that it “attempts to spread misleading information about the election and has been removed from the platform.”

State election officials have repeatedly rejected that there was any mass voter fraud in the 2020 election, and numerous studies show voter fraud to be exceedingly rare in the U.S. There has been no evidence of major hacking into voting infrastructure, and the election has, by and large, gone smoothly. But as Trump’s lead in critical swing states slowly slipped from his grasp, the president has been spreading conspiracy theories that fraudulent votes were being dumped to take away his reelection. These claims have no basis in evidence; the evolving numbers in key states reflect the unprecedented number of absentee ballots sent in amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Braynard claims that he raised $220,000 when his page was taken down. A GoFundMe spokesperson told POLITICO that all the money was returned to donors. Braynard started a new fundraising campaign on another crowdsourcing site shortly after. “But we won’t be stopped; please give even more on our new Croud Sourcing page,” he tweeted.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/0 ... ion-434800

Good ol' Matt is still on Twitter with 138K followers: https://twitter.com/MattBraynard

The Fogbow Project definitely will need social media presence, but that's easy, with the right message they'll make the posts go viral.

It could be a "Virtual Tribute to President T****" -- It would be a beautiful virtual building and supporters could "buy" parts of it. If it was a Virtual White House, we could sell the Oval Office, Residence, other offices... it could even be an eBay type bidding war. Then the "original" Virtual White House would be presented to T**** in Bedminister.

Can't remember how much they made on those "virtual bricks" for The Wall but it was quite a bit.

We could also try a currency play; some tiny nation is planning to change all their banknotes to have the Disgraced Loser on them, so they will SOAR in value! (perhaps) So buy these banknotes NOW to get an INCREDIBLE return any day now! (perhaps)

See the potential here? OK, so what ideas do you all have for this lucrative project?* :P

We had a lot of laughs thinking these up.

* Again, this is for fun, and it's more of a weekend topic. But hell if we come up with a good one that is honest, legal, has actual deliverables, and can make us all some money, why not? Kidding around. :lol:
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Just a personal - I hope that the T grifting continues until the marks are so tired from giving that the Republican party will be the sore losers during next election campaign on the financial side (even when they have billionaires in support).
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Don't do this: Florida man who set up GoFundMe for Trump’s border wall indicted on tax charges:
A Florida man who set up a GoFundMe for former President Trump’s border wall has now been indicted on tax charges, the IRS said Thursday.

Brian G. Kolfage of Miramar Beach could face up to 20 years in prison.

He was charged with two counts of filing a false tax return and one count of wire fraud related to the electronic filing of his 2019 tax return in Florida.

He also faces a separate federal indictment out of New York for fraud and money laundering related offenses, prosecutors say.

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The charges allege he received hundreds of thousands of dollars from multiple organizations in 2019, including We Build the Wall, Inc., which were deposited into his personal bank account.
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bob wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:22 pm Don't do this: Florida man who set up GoFundMe for Trump’s border wall indicted on tax charges:
A Florida man who set up a GoFundMe for former President Trump’s border wall has now been indicted on tax charges, the IRS said Thursday.

Brian G. Kolfage of Miramar Beach could face up to 20 years in prison.

He was charged with two counts of filing a false tax return and one count of wire fraud related to the electronic filing of his 2019 tax return in Florida.

He also faces a separate federal indictment out of New York for fraud and money laundering related offenses, prosecutors say.

The charges allege he received hundreds of thousands of dollars from multiple organizations in 2019, including We Build the Wall, Inc., which were deposited into his personal bank account.

Kolfage is the vet who started the We Build the Wall fund in the first place. Just another grifter following in DFO’s footsteps.
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"Trumpers are far easier to grift"

I respectfully disagree with that statement. I understand this topic is proposed in fun, is theoretical and hypothetical and all that. But I work in the non-profit field and am blown away by some of the grift perpetuated by Democrats, liberals, and the left.

Picking a MAGA pocket is pretty low-level stuff. But it's just as easy to empty the wallets of well-intentioned folks who believe they are donating to a worthy cause, and corporate sponsors who wish to influence votes.

Non-profits are now being employed to provide the essential services once provided by cities and states: healthcare, education, etc. City Halls and State Assemblies dole out millions of dollars every day. But who are the effective non-profits and who are the rotten eggs? Form 990's are awesome - if you know how to read them - but there is more to the story than that. Often it's money for nothing. And no FOIA requests.

I'm not really into money, it's not my bag, but if anyone wants to get some grift on, I'd sign up. Just for the film noir out of it. A real easy grift is the "arts." Or go GriftBusters - grifters are are a paranoid lot. I know where some of the bones are buried, and how to bury bones without a scent. Got a good nose for that. I can regurgitate all the standard fluff. Dress it up. That's my gig.
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Please...if we're gonna grift...we grift big!!!

TELEVANGILISM baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't know. I have been hearing that the evangelical world is contracting. In addition, those who identify as white evangelicals have the highest median age of various groups (mainline, Catholics, no religion followed, etc). While there always be some room for the grift, it is not as sustainable long term. Their heyday was in the 80s. Even the televangelists are fading as new ones are not coming on the scene as much as the previous ones, and their kids (because a Christian ministry is some sort of hereditary nobility apparently) who inherited the positions only know how to run it by entitlement and not how to actually build anything.
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"The Donald J Trump Mar-A-Lago Boat Parade Tribute Fund"

Then we buy a yacht, float it past the tip of Palm Beach with a big gauche Trump flag every once in a while, use it to run coke from Bimini for Jr. once in a while and stock it with some young hookers for Matt Geatz before he goes to prison. Aside from those trivial things that let us say "we TOLD you what we were gonna spend it on" we get a pretty boat that can be hired out as well as used for "Fogbow Hookers and Blow Cruise" events.

It's an all Florida solution and if we raise enough money we'll buy a mansion on the Intercoastal.
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:clap: :lol: That is a SENSATIONAL idea and they would totally donate to that! That is hilarious!


We sort of liked the idea of "We Build The Moat", just dig a ditch.


It's harder than it looks to find truly crazy ideas, look what's selling out at CPAC.

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We could buy them on Amazon for $44.55...


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And resell them on eBay for $125.00-250.00 :lol:


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We came up with cheese graters that would say "Make America Grate Again", but the margins are too slim. :lol:
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Nb.:
In the twilight of his administration, Donald Trump pardoned Bannon for charges that he conspired to commit wire fraud and money laundering in connection with a crowdfunded effort to construct a barrier on the U.S.-Mexico border, but the former president left Bannon’s accused co-conspirators twisting in the wind on similar accusations.

Now, two of the three remaining defendants — We Build the Wall’s president Brian Kolfage and Timothy Shea — have signaled plans to “enter pleas of guilty to the certain charges” against them without a trial. Prosecutors said in February that the last, Andrew Badolato, was in the “final stages” of negotiations with the government, and they do not expect a trial to be necessary. If the three men’s plans hold, those developments would render “unnecessary the trial presently scheduled for May 16, 2022,” according to the government’s filing.


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In addition to his indictment in the Southern District of New York, Kolfage was charged separately in the Northern District of Florida for alleged tax offenses. Those will be transferred to New York and resolved during his change of plea hearing here, prosecutors say.
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trumpy bear is hanging in there. Maybe we can pick up some of those carnival plush snakes and sell them as Don't Tread On Me mascots. Run some wire thru them so we can coil them up and wrap them in their own yellow rag, errrrr flag. Add a red hat for an additional $20.
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Challenge Coins. Custom design bought in bulk for $3.50 each, sell them to the rubes as "Limited Editions" for $49.95.

As for the "Limited Edition" part, every time you restock the 500 pcs you need to buy to get the $3.50 price, change the design and run the next installment, Hell, you can even run contests for the rubes to send in their suggestions for the next design, and for the price of a free one, they even do all your design work.

This is a win-win, guys. And I'm still holding out for the "Fogbow Hookers and Blow" Yacht.
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The Fogbow Sewing Circle can make Be Best Friends dolls - Ginni and Clarence. Velcro can make it look like they’re holding hands. We’ll have to incorporate Q stuff - like, they pl can have a travel set with WWG1WGA stenciled on top, with little hearts all around.

Slim, you could make the template.
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Phoenix520 wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:12 pm The Fogbow Sewing Circle can make Be Best Friends dolls - Ginni and Clarence. Velcro can make it look like they’re holding hands. We’ll have to incorporate Q stuff - like, they pl can have a travel set with WWG1WGA stenciled on top, with little hearts all around.

Slim, you could make the template.
Maybe a Coke Can accessory with a single strand of coarse wool on top?

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Phoenix520 wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:17 pm:rotflmao:
Don't forget the complimentary black-headed pins to go with them.
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I can do that. :biggrin:
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For slim's snake hats we should charge $200. Grifting requires three digit numbers. :biggrin:
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:31 pm For slim's snake hats we should charge $200. Grifting requires three digit numbers. :biggrin:
Your forgot the auto-filled monthly recurrence...

Remember were doing a MAGA grift here.... :thumbsup:
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Frater I*I wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:01 pm
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:31 pm For slim's snake hats we should charge $200. Grifting requires three digit numbers. :biggrin:
Your forgot the auto-filled monthly recurrence...

Remember were doing a MAGA grift here.... :thumbsup:
Slap a maintenance fee on the hats.
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Let’s do them all!!!
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Ok guys, I know this might be controvertial, but hear me out...

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Did someone declare today Porn Day and forget to mention it? :D
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Or just a really weird take on the Lusty Argonian Maid?
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jez wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:32 pm Or just a really weird take on the Lusty Argonian Maid?
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