Domestic Terrorism

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Post by Jeffrey » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:21 am

Couple that shot an antifa get a mistrial.

https://t.co/Uki0hRBxqk

Putting it here since pretrial stuff was posted here. And arguably shooting people you disagree with is terroristic.

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Post by Dave at Sea » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:01 am

Yeah - they intended a political outcome from their planned and executed violence - they are domestic terrorists.

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Post by NotaPerson » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:26 am

‘Shoot every federal agent in sight’: Teen behind online threat had 10,000 rounds of ammo in house, feds say
In an online forum, he went by the name “ArmyOfChrist” and praised the Oklahoma City bombing, mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood, the FBI says. When the deadly siege in Waco, Tex., came up, he allegedly offered one lesson: “Shoot every federal agent on sight.”

“Don’t comply with gun laws, stock up on stuff they could ban,” he allegedly wrote in another post. “In fact, go out of your way to break these laws.”

The comments were all written by an Ohio teenager named Justin Olsen, the FBI says in federal court documents. And when agents raided a home where the 18-year-old lived earlier this month, they found about 10,000 rounds of ammunition and a vault full of assault-type weapons and shotguns.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... ifles-fbi/
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Post by DejaMoo » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:42 pm

Proud Boy Leaders Tell Troops to Tone Down Threats of Violence in Portland After FBI Visit
Florida based Proud Boy leaders Joe Biggs, a former host of the far-Right conspiracy platform, InfoWars, as well as the group’s National Chairman, Enrique Tarrio, who attended the neo-Nazi Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and also serves as the Director of Latinos for Trump in Florida, are instructing their troops to “tone down” their violent rhetoric and calls for outright murder on social media.

Ironically the Proud Boys, who claim that they will be joined in Portland by groups such as the far-Right militia, the Three Percenters, which are tied to multiple bombings, as well as the American Guard, which was founded by a violent neo-Nazi skinhead, say that they are rallying to demand that “ANTIFA” be labeled a domestic terrorist group. The Proud Boys, who often brand themselves as “Libertarians,” also say they are rallying to support a proposed ban promoted by the Portland police, on people wearing masks at demonstrations. As many have noted, far-Right rally goers often wear masks at demonstrations, generally in much higher numbers than the hundreds of antifascist and antiracist counter-demonstrators who generally out number them.
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Other members of Patriot Prayer such as Russel Schultz, a former Proud Boy, long known for his violent threats on Facebook, have also made threats of violence in relation to the August 17th event. On July 11th, Schultz posted a meme stating that those on the far-Right were going to murder enough people on August 17th to “raise the body count” beyond those killed in the Las Vegas shooting, which Schultz considers an attack against “conservatives,” despite the shooting being carried out by a Trump supporter. Russel has also stated on social media that he plans to infiltrate the antifascist protest on August 17th.
I've heard this bull before.

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Post by Addie » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:32 pm

ABC News
'No Blame?' ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.

In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.

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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:57 am

GOP Sen. Martha McSally drafts bill making domestic terrorism a federal crime
Sen. Martha McSally is seeking to make domestic terrorism a distinct federal crime, the latest sign that Republicans are increasingly serious about crafting a legislative response to recent mass shootings in Texas, Ohio and California.

The Arizona Republican is aiming to close a loophole in the law that prevents federal authorities from specifically punishing domestic terrorism, according to a discussion draft circulated to other offices. McSally, an Air Force veteran, said in releasing the draft that “domestic terrorism is in our backyard and we need to call it and treat it under the law the same as other forms of terrorism.” Authorities frequently charge domestic terrorism suspects with other offenses.

“For too long we have allowed those who commit heinous acts of domestic terrorism to be charged with related crimes that don’t portray the full scope of their hateful actions,” she said. “That stops with my bill. The bill I am introducing will give federal law enforcement the tools they have asked for so that they can punish criminals to the fullest extent of the law.”

The bill is likely to garner significant co-sponsors in the coming days, according to an aide familiar with the effort. The draft bill would criminalize politically motivated violence, recognize victims of terrorism and allow federal authorities to charge suspects with acts of domestic terrorism.
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Post by voxpopuluxe » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:59 am

Sen. Martha McSally is seeking to make domestic terrorism a distinct federal crime, the latest sign that Republicans are increasingly serious about crafting a legislative response to recent mass shootings in Texas, Ohio and California.

The bill is likely to garner significant co-sponsors in the coming days, according to an aide familiar with the effort. The draft bill would criminalize politically motivated violence, recognize victims of terrorism and allow federal authorities to charge suspects with acts of domestic terrorism.
Two for one here—they can appear to do something to deter white terrorist violence AND they can build an apparatus which will serve to criminalize any kind of dissent, if desired. Just wait until Ted Cruz or ICE gets to finger "domestic terrorists." Add Andrew Cuomo's "mental health database"—it's like HIPPA meets Equifax!—and the State can get in on terrorizing the most vulnerable as well.
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Re: Domestic Terrorism

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Post by Addie » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:29 am

CBS News
Devices that caused New York subway station evacuation deemed safe - live updates

Two pressure cookers that prompted an evacuation at a New York subway station Friday morning were determined to not be explosive, police said. The New York Police Department's counterterrorism bureau said on Twitter that the pressure cookers found at the Fulton Street station were deemed safe. ...

The police department confirmed to CBS News that another pressure cooker was being investigated in a different part of Manhattan. That pressure cooker was found near the intersection of West 16th Street and Seventh Avenue.

Transit officials rerouted the No. 2 and 3 subway lines to avoid the Fulton Street station, causing delays during the morning commute. The lines connect lower Manhattan to Brooklyn and run under the East River.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

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Post by neonzx » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:03 pm

Addie wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:29 am
CBS News
Devices that caused New York subway station evacuation deemed safe - live updates

Two pressure cookers that prompted an evacuation at a New York subway station Friday morning were determined to not be explosive,
Rice cooker bomb scare suspect Larry Griffin II has prior bestiality arrest
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The suspect wanted for Friday’s rice cooker bomb scare is a 26-year-old West Virginia native who is facing charges in his home state for allegedly sending bestiality videos involving a chicken to a minor, law enforcement sources told The Post.
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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Post by Lani » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:29 pm

White Supremacists Want a Dirty Bomb
And the Trump administration is letting them get dangerously close to acquiring one.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/16/wh ... Picks%20OC

And Rick Perry is in charge of protecting us. :torches:
While the United States has been focused on the trafficking of nuclear and radiological materials abroad, experts at the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) have argued that the threat of dangerous radiological materials being used in America’s own backyard is “just as serious.”

With a wide variety of civilian uses, including in the medical, industrial, and research fields, radiological materials rated by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as Category 1 threats—such as cesium-137, cobalt-60, and strontium-90—are left relatively unguarded. These materials could be used to contaminate a major U.S. city with devastating consequences.
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This is the third time this year that the Energy Department has drawn outrage for mishandling nuclear waste. In June, the department decided to reclassify high-level nuclear weapons waste to a lower category. Paul Dabbar, the undersecretary for science, said the decision was made to allow for faster cleanup of contaminated areas and to cut back costs.

According to the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), the reclassification would allow the Energy Department to abandon storage tanks of more than 100 million gallons of some of the “most toxic and radioactive waste in the world” across three states at low ground levels. The byproduct of the production of nuclear weapons is a dangerous cocktail of IAEA Category 1 radiological materials, including strontium-90, americium-241, and plutonium-238. “The Trump administration is attempting to alter five decades of national consensus on handling the most toxic waste in the world,” said Geoffrey Fettus, a senior attorney for the NRDC.
The article includes reports on white supremacists who possessed or were attempting to access radiological materials.
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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:01 pm

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Post by Lani » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:24 am

House GOP’s Reported Talking Points For Shootings: Note ‘Violence From The Left’
Talking points shared by a Florida Republican Thursday recommend that, when asked that question, lawmakers pivot toward blaming the left.

In an email to constituents reported by the Tampa Bay Times, Rep. Gus Bilirakis (R-FL, pictured above) included a series of talking points that his spokesperson told the paper were “provided by the House Republican Conference.”

If asked, “Do you believe white nationalism is driving more mass shootings recently?” the talking points falsely respond that the El Paso shooter and the man who shot Congresswoman Gaby Giffords were politically “from the left.”

“White nationalism and racism are pure evil and cannot be tolerated in any form,” the talking points included in the email said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. “We also can’t excuse violence from the left such as the El Paso shooter, the recent Colorado shooters, the Congressional baseball shooter, Congresswoman Giffords’ shooter and Antifa.”
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hous ... -bilirakis
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Post by Addie » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:42 pm

This report is a little different, found unconscious in the Bronx.
CNN: The man seen placing rice cookers around downtown New York is in custody, police say

CNN)The man who police say is seen on video dropping off rice cookers Friday in downtown New York was taken into custody early Saturday morning, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said.

Three rice cookers, initially described as suspicious devices, were discovered Friday morning in Manhattan, prompting a brief scare and causing delays during the busy morning subway commute. All the devices were ultimately deemed safe.

The man was found unconscious around 2 a.m. ET at an address in the Bronx and is hospitalized, the source said. He was taken into custody on a previous bench warrant unrelated to Friday's incident and has not been charged in connection with the rice cookers, the source said.

The "individual has been located and the investigation continues," NYPD Chief of Detectives Dermot Shea tweeted Saturday morning.

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Re: Domestic Terrorism

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Post by Jeffrey » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:05 pm

It started:



JJ updated to clarify the box cutter incident isn’t near the protests.

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Post by Turtle » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:37 pm

Lani wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:24 am
House GOP’s Reported Talking Points For Shootings: Note ‘Violence From The Left’
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If asked, “Do you believe white nationalism is driving more mass shootings recently?” the talking points falsely respond that the El Paso shooter and the man who shot Congresswoman Gaby Giffords were politically “from the left.”

“White nationalism and racism are pure evil and cannot be tolerated in any form,” the talking points included in the email said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. “We also can’t excuse violence from the left such as the El Paso shooter, the recent Colorado shooters, the Congressional baseball shooter, Congresswoman Giffords’ shooter and Antifa.”
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hous ... -bilirakis
The Proud Boys spokesman in Portland is sticking to these talking points right now on CNN

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Post by neonzx » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:47 pm

Portland Police
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Video Update 6 - The demonstration in downtown Portland has now been declared a civil disturbance. Individuals gathered in the SW Park and Morrison area must now leave the area immediately. Transcript: https://buff.ly/2THyysh #PPBAlert
7:32 PM · Aug 17, 2019·
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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