Military Mischief

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Re: Military Mischief

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Post by Maybenaut » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:27 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:52 pm
Sentenced to four months with credit for time served. Reduced in rank from E-7 to E-6. (I doubt he'll make Chief again). His attorney says that he will be retiring. At least he gets to retire. I don't know what it will cost him to retire at a reduced rank, but I'd suspect something easily in the five figures over the life of his retirement.

Question for Maybenaut: The military has no bond/bail system? I couldn't see him high-tailing out of the country while awaiting trial.
No bail in the military. He was in pretrial confinement. Then he was released from pretrial confinement into pretrial "restraint," meaning he was confined to the limits of the base. That was eventually lifted as well, but from what I gather he did enough time in the actual brig to count against the sentence (time spent in restraint, as opposed to confinement, doesn't count).

I think the reason he was in pretrial confinement, then pretrial restraint, was because on the original charge sheet he was charged with obstruction of justice by trying to intimidate witnesses (I think -- it's been awhile since I read it). So they weren't really worried that he would abscond; they were worried that they couldn't control him while he awaited trial.

He doesn't necessarily get to retire. He only has 19 years in. If they can convene an administrative separation board in time, and convince the board he should be separated, he can be tossed without a retirement. I think that's unlikely, though. The Navy lost this case when they (a) lost the murder charge and (b) didn't get a BCD at sentencing.
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Re: Military Mischief

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Post by Maybenaut » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:33 am

Two active-duty Marines arrested for allegedly smuggling undocumented Mexican immigrants
Two Marines have been arrested for allegedly trying to smuggle three undocumented Mexican immigrants through California after picking them up on the side of the interstate just north of the border.

Lance Cpls. Byron Darnell Law II and David Javier Salazar-Quintero, based in Camp Pendleton, Calif., were arraigned Monday in federal court on charges of transporting undocumented immigrants “for financial gain,” accused of taking jobs from “recruiters” and following instructions from unknown people in Mexico to make extra cash on the side.

They are among numerous active-duty U.S. troops charged or convicted in recent years of helping immigrants cross the border in exchange for money, highlighting how smugglers have sought to offer the shield of a uniform or credentials to assist desperate migrants on the journey north. Each previous case has largely followed the same rubric: A small group of immigrants is shepherded into the back seat of the car; the troops are caught during a traffic stop or at a routine checkpoint.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... 4364988c15
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Re: Military Mischief

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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 pm

Are army staff underpaid in general?

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Post by neonzx » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:09 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 pm
Are army staff underpaid in general?
Smuggling immigrants is incredibly lucrative. We're not talking a few hundred bucks here. It's thousands. The going rate, from what I know averages around US $6-8,000/person. And it's all cash.

Unfortunately, people can get caught up in doing stuff like this. They weigh it out in their head and justify it. Even morally upstanding people can fall victim.
To which Trump replied, Fuck the law. I don't give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.

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Re: Military Mischief

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Post by Maybenaut » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:58 pm
Are army staff underpaid in general?
Not really. These guys are relatively junior, and they make around $30K a year, not counting housing. If they live on-base, housing is free. If they live off-base, the amount of additional housing allowance depends on their paygrade, their duty station, and whether they have dependents. An E-3 at Camp Pendleton without dependents gets about $22K per year for housing; with dependents get about $30K. And they have free health care.

So, they don’t make a ton of money, but they’re above the poverty line.
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