Syria - Stepping into the Void

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So it was now or never. With the loss of Kurdish help on intel, we were no longer going to be able to track him.

Meanwhile, there are plenty more waiting in the wings to step up....
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Yes its comparison time.
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Schumer statement on al-Baghdadi ends: "New Yorkers know all too well the destruction a small group of terrorists thousands of miles overseas can cause from so far away. I look forward to receiving a briefing about this raid and the plan to deal with the escaped ISIS prisoners."

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It's difficult to read the last few pages of this thread without formulating lots of questions. I'm sure Sterngard has questions as well....

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New York Times (paywall): C.I.A. Got Tip on al-Baghdadi’s Location From Arrest of a Wife and a Courier

President Trump’s abrupt decision to pull forces from northern Syria disrupted planning for the raid and forced the Pentagon to press ahead with a risky night operation, military officials said.

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Addie wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:09 pm
New York Times (paywall): C.I.A. Got Tip on al-Baghdadi’s Location From Arrest of a Wife and a Courier

President Trump’s abrupt decision to pull forces from northern Syria disrupted planning for the raid and forced the Pentagon to press ahead with a risky night operation, military officials said.
If Trump paid attention to his briefings he would have known about those plans.

Or has the DOD just stopped telling him their plans?
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Volkonski wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:33 pm
Addie wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:09 pm
New York Times (paywall): C.I.A. Got Tip on al-Baghdadi’s Location From Arrest of a Wife and a Courier

President Trump’s abrupt decision to pull forces from northern Syria disrupted planning for the raid and forced the Pentagon to press ahead with a risky night operation, military officials said.
If Trump paid attention to his briefings he would have known about those plans.

Or has the DOD just stopped telling him their plans?
I guess the military was wary reading on Twitter about their plans, posted by the twit, and will have kept quiet until on regular schedule they were ready for the hit. Planning must have been well advanced to work out in the retreat mayhem.

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Asked multiple times by Chris Wallace why the President did not notify Speaker Pelosi about the al-Baghdadi operation, Mike Pence does not directly answer.

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How Trump gabbed too much about the ISIS raid

President Donald Trump’s announcement of the death of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi revealed a slew of sensitive details about the secret military operation that could imperil future raids, special operations and intelligence, veterans fear.

Trump, who spoke for a full 48 minutes and took a series of questions at the White House, went into unusual detail about the mission inside hostile territory in Syria that he said he watched in real time “as though you were watching a movie."

Among the most striking were his descriptions of how the Army Delta Force was inserted into the heavily fortified compound, breached its walls to avoid booby-trapped doors and pursued the terrorist kingpin into a network of tunnels, where he detonated his suicide vest, killing himself and three children. But considered especially egregious were Trump's remarks about the number and route of the commando's helicopters.

“I always get a little bit nervous when people without knowledge of operations start describing operations,” said Michael Nagata, a retired Army lieutenant general who was the senior special operations commander in the Middle East during the early stages of the anti-ISIS campaign. “It’s a good story, and I can understand the impulse to tell a good story. Telling it can have positive benefits. But the benefits are unpredictable and marginal, whereas the harm could be more substantial."

Taken together, some of the details Trump revealed could help terrorist groups piece together new information about how U.S. counterterrorism forces gather intelligence and execute such dangerous missions, said veterans of previous operations.

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I hope Gary is accustomed to disappointment.
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Slim Cognito wrote:
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I hope Gary is accustomed to disappointment.
I don't.

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REPORTER: Gen. Milley, President Trump described al-Baghdadi as 'whimpering & crying' before he died. Can you confirm those details?

GEN. MILLEY: I don't know what the source of that was.

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I don't know what happened, but I have a hard time picturing a man "whimpering and crying" before blowing himself up with a suicide vest that killed several people besides himself. Don't they think they're going to a better place, or is that just propaganda I've heard?
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We have declassified a picture of the wonderful dog (name not declassified) that did such a GREAT JOB in capturing and killing the Leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!

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Gen. Mazlum Kobane tells @NBCNews that Kurdish intelligence had a deep source in Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's inner circle who provided information essential to the US raid that killed the ISIS leader. Mazlum said the informant was at Baghdadi's compound as it was assaulted.

A Kurdish official just told @nbcnews Gen. Mazlum misspoke, and that SDF intelligence provided US intelligence with Baghdadi’s used underwear and a sample of BLOOD, not hair, and that both matched Baghdadi’s DNA. more details to come.

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Kendra wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:09 pm
https:// mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1188909031403900928
We have declassified a picture of the wonderful dog (name not declassified) that did such a GREAT JOB in capturing and killing the Leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!
From the guy who does not know what a canine is, who cannot translate that mentally into a K-9, and has no critter in the WH (residential bedbugs not considered). :brickwallsmall:

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RTH10260 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:30 pm
Kendra wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:09 pm
https:// mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1188909031403900928
We have declassified a picture of the wonderful dog (name not declassified) that did such a GREAT JOB in capturing and killing the Leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!
From the guy who does not know what a canine is, who cannot translate that mentally into a K-9, and has no critter in the WH (residential bedbugs not considered). :brickwallsmall:
Yeah, I know. But I love the dog :bighug:

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Notice the dog tweet is near 300K likes within the first day, because it is a rare one that doesn't attack anyone and people like dogs.

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ISIS Names New Leader, Ibrahim al-Hashemi al-Qurayshi, as It Confirms al-Baghdadi’s Death
The announcement came four days after President Trump announced that the Islamic State leader had blown himself up during a raid by American forces in Syria.

By Rick Gladstone
Oct. 31, 2019 Updated 12:55 p.m. ET

The Islamic State on Thursday confirmed the death of its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and announced his successor, four days after President Trump triumphantly announced that Mr. al-Baghdadi had blown himself up during a raid by American forces on his hide-out in northern Syria.

In an announcement by the Islamic State’s propaganda arm, the group also confirmed that its former spokesman, Abu al-Hassan al-Muhajir, had been killed, which happened in a separate strike after Mr. al-Baghdadi’s death.

The Islamic State’s announcement was reported on the Twitter account of the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors the online content of the Islamic State and other extremist militant groups.

The announcement said Mr. al-Baghdadi had been succeeded as the Islamic State’s leader by Ibrahim al-Hashemi al-Qurayshi, whom it identified as the “emir of the believers” and “caliph.” Mr. al-Qurayshi appeared to be largely unknown, at least outside the ranks of the organization.



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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: IS leader's sister 'captured by Turkey'

The sister of former Islamic State group (IS) leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been captured in northern Syria, Turkish officials say.

The 65-year-old, named as Rasmiya Awad, was detained in a raid on Monday near the town of Azaz, officials said.

Turkish officials, cited by several media outlets, believe the arrest could yield valuable intelligence about IS.

Baghdadi killed himself during a raid by US special forces on his compound in north-west Syria last month.

His death was hailed as a victory for US President Donald Trump, but critics argue that IS remains a security threat in Syria and elsewhere.

One Turkish official told Reuters news agency the arrest of Baghdadi's older sister might help shed light on "the inner workings" of IS.


https:// www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50297801
Rasmiya Awad: Turkey gains ‘intelligence goldmine’ with arrest of Baghdadi sister
Hannah Lucinda Smith, Istanbul
November 4 2019, 5:00pm, The Times

Turkish forces in Syria say that they have struck an intelligence “goldmine” after capturing the elder sister of the Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Rasmiya Awad, 65, was living with her family, including her five children, in a lorry trailer near the town of Azaz when they were caught last night.

A Turkish official said that Ms Awad was being interrogated on suspicion of belonging to an extremist group. “This kind of thing is an intelligence goldmine. What she knows about [Islamic State] can significantly expand our understanding of the group and help us catch more bad guys,” they said.


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Now that dotus has successfully retreated from Syria he left back an intelligence trove to be discovered by Turkey. Erdogan will love this, now he can bribe the US intelligence community and Teh Donald. :twisted:

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Russian air force attacking civilian targets in Syria.
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Don't worry. Donald will threaten even more threatening sanctions.
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Fuck Putin, fuck trump, fuck Erdogan, fuck 'em all.
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