That was quick.
Andrew Napalitano nailed it yesterday on "Fox & Friends." Helps to have inside information from the White House.
I wuz jest a thinkin' the same thang!!
Ghislaine Maxwell? There are also three employees who pimped for him mentioned in the SDNY indictment: Employees-1 through 3.
Uh, no shit? The first time I learned about Epstein—maybe it was that Vicky Ward piece for VF; maybe it was during his first arrest?—I thought his whole shtick screamed money launderer/blackmailer/trafficker/grifter. It's hard to believe that it wasn't even more obvious to people more knowledgable and/or experienced than I was. (And I mean, in part thanks to Ward we now know that it was obvious. It's just that there was just a sort of general tacit agreement to look away and not to ask too many questions.)Given this puzzling set of data points, the hedge-fund managers we spoke to leaned toward the theory that Epstein was running a blackmail scheme under the cover of a hedge fund.
Interesting. But they didn't participate in the acts, they were criminally-culpable accomplices, yes?Sterngard Friegen wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:25 amGhislaine Maxwell? There are also three employees who pimped for him mentioned in the SDNY indictment: Employees-1 through 3.
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/0 ... -girls-sex
Road, what I'm interested in knowing is who are these "cohorts" involved in sexual predation of minors. Other than 'rich guy assocated with a lot of influential people' what is it - what FACTS - make you believe that Epstein engaged with others in the sexual predation of minors?
Okay, you are "sick to death of rich male perverts" engaging in unlawful sexual conduct with minors. Can you provide the list of these rich male perverts along with perhaps some reference to the factual basis of the claim that they have done so?So let the chips fall where they may. I personally am sick to death of rich male perverts using their power and influence to do nasty illegal stuff hundreds (maybe thousands?) of times that some poor immature lovelorn 19-year-old would go to prison for doing once.
Have you read the Epstein indictment?
Maybe it has happened but I can never recall someone campaigning against a reporter winning a Pulitzer. What a bitter old perv Dershowitz is. He probably just helped her win.Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:49 amDersh writes open letter to Pulitzer Prize Committee: Don't award anything to Julie Brown.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1400 ... -fake-news
There were named co-conspirators (all -- or maybe all -- women) in the Florida non-prosecution agreement: Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, and Nadia Marchinkova. I don't know who any of these people are. They may actually be victims, given that he is alleged to have first victimized, then convinced his victims to recruit for him.Sterngard Friegen wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:53 amRes, the CDs recovered at Epstein's New York house may be of interest. At this point we don't know if there are any other rich sick perverts, except that a few of the girls who were raped said Epstein passed them around.
On the other hand, Ghislaine Maxwell and 3 unnamed other individuals allegedly pimped for him and if that is true, they were clearly engaged in the human trafficking.
nymag wrote:If the blackmail theory sounds far-fetched, it’s worth keeping in mind that it was also floated by one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. “Epstein … also got girls for Epstein’s friends and acquaintances. Epstein specifically told me that the reason for him doing this was so that they would ‘owe him,’ they would ‘be in his pocket,’ and he would ‘have something on them,’” she said in a court affidavit, according to the investigative series in the Miami Herald that brought the case back to the public’s attention late last year.
In the 2015 filing, Giuffre claimed that Epstein “debriefed her” after she was forced into sexual encounters so that he could possess “intimate and potentially embarrassing information” to blackmail friends into parking their money with him. She also said photographic and video evidence existed — an assertion that looms especially large now that federal investigators have found a trove of images in Epstein’s home safe.
Well, I'm pretty sure that Comet Ping Pong, unlike Epstein, never faced a decade of previous allegations, nor had a widely known reputation for predatory behavior, nor a previous arrest.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:44 amThis is the precise sort of fact-free belief that fed the Pizzagate nonsense. That guy who showed up in the pizza shop with a rifle was pretty sure about what he knew - along with the many others who are certain that the Clinton campaign was involved in sexual trafficking of minors.
Lithgow is delightful, I 'm looking forward to the book coming out.Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:28 amIf you're a John Lithgow fan (yes, please) he's got a book of trump-inspired poetry coming out this fall. He wrote this one about Acosta's Epstein deal last winter, but with recent events, he's giving us a preview,presented by The new Yorker.
He's pretty good.
See Maybenaut's article quote above.
Oh, and a copy of his NPA agreement: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... 49.6.1.pdfYesterday, Acosta claimed his office intervened in the Epstein case only when they realized Epstein wouldn't receive jail time for the pending Florida charges.
The Palm Beach State Attorney has refuted that claim. Also, that's just not how things work.
And I'm pretty sure that Epstein was engaged in unlawful sexual contact with underage girls. But what Epstein did is not my question.
I saw it. Other than the speculation in the article, this is Giuffre's most recently filed civil complaint against Dershowitz for defamation:
I think it’s a valid question, res ipsa.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:13 pmI saw it. Other than the speculation in the article, this is Giuffre's most recently filed civil complaint against Dershowitz for defamation:
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov ... .1.0_1.pdf
I've skimmed through it, and will read it again, because I missed the part about the ring of other pedophiles. If someone else catches it before I had time to go over it again, let me know what page.
You seem weirdly invested in trying to disprove beyond a shadow of a doubt something that I haven't even seen a lot of people claiming. What I'm seeing are suspicions—and "claim" may be too strong a word here—that a career predator made his mysterious "billions" in part by blackmailing other predators. And there certainly seems to be a good deal of circumstantial evidence to suggest that there are some grounds for this suspicion. The existence of what may be records or recordings of Epstein or his associates doesn't make that suspicion any less credible, nor does what we know about the behavior of powerful men. But beyond that, unless you have more intimate knowledge of these affairs than I, neither of us knows definitively exactly what were the connections between Epstein and his associates/partners/clients. It's just that some of us are nodding and conceding that in this instance it is possible, maybe even likely that Epstein and his associates trafficked young and underage women to other men and you appear to have decided that such a thing could not possibly have happened. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:11 pmAnd I'm pretty sure that Epstein was engaged in unlawful sexual contact with underage girls. But what Epstein did is not my question.
I think I'll ask again - what is the factual basis for what appears to be a commonly held and a widespread belief of a "ring" of other pedophiles than Epstein?
And, no, I don't mean the collection of his employees and other victims who acted as procurers for him.