Congressman Steve King (R-IA 04)

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Post by RoadScholar » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:31 pm

Obviously they want no birth control or abortions so as to increase the size of the population of children they can rape.
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:04 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:11 pm
TexasFilly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:43 pm
Sekrit Stuffs!
WHO THE FUCK IS ATTENDING STEVE KING SPEECHES IN THE FIRST PLACE? .
Sekrit Stuffs!
He said it at the Iowa State Fair. It got splashed all over my television. It's almost as awful as when I turn the TV on in the morning to catch the early news and having to see Trump's face all over the screen. That happens daily. :sick:
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Post by Dan1100 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:10 pm

ZekeB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:11 pm
TexasFilly wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:43 pm
Sekrit Stuffs!
WHO THE FUCK IS ATTENDING STEVE KING SPEECHES IN THE FIRST PLACE? .
Sekrit Stuffs!
He said it at the Iowa State Fair. It got splashed all over my television. It's almost as awful as when I turn the TV on in the morning to catch the early news and having to see Trump's face all over the screen. That happens daily. :sick:
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Re: Congressman Steve King (R-IA 04)

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Post by Hurtzi » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:24 am

ZekeB wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:18 pm
Jeffrey wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:08 pm
If the old testament is to be believed, we are all the products of incest / rape.
Oh. Thanks. You've enlightened me as to why the fundies want an abortion ban. I'm not familiar with every last word in the Old Testament, but now I see how King justifies rape, incest and banning abortions.

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Post by ZekeB » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:35 am

King wants us to believe we wouldn't be here if it weren't for those capitol sins. He's wrong. Civilization would be here anyway if it weren't for R&I, though probably not our individual minds and bodies as we were born today. He has an very big ego if he thinks he's the best thing born the way he was. Would we be a better society if we weren't born from such barbaric ways? It very well could be.

As for the bible... I don't subscribe to the Adam and Eve thing. We evolved. Not as a single pair, but as many different people. A few instances are quoted in the bible. They are there and those acts were condemned.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:42 am

ZekeB wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:35 am
As for the bible... I don't subscribe to the Adam and Eve thing. We evolved. Not as a single pair, but as many different people. A few instances are quoted in the bible. They are there and those acts were condemned.
Most Episcopalians I know completely subscribe to the same "we evolved" concept. In fairness though, I will grant an exception for Steve King. He is evolutionarily stunted.
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Post by Jeffrey » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:50 am

To be clear, the biblical stuff was a joke.

King was probably not referring to that.

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Post by Suranis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:05 am

Uh, ya, there;s nothing in the Bible, to my knowlage, about that, and in any case reading the article (yes I know actually reading an article is against internet law, I'm sorry) King wasn't refering to anything in the bible. King is stupid enough without dragging in other predudices and stuffing them in his mouth.
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Post by Jeffrey » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:07 am

Suranis wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:05 am
Uh, ya, there;s nothing in the Bible, to my knowlage, about that,
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Jeffrey wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:07 am
Suranis wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:05 am
Uh, ya, there;s nothing in the Bible, to my knowlage, about that,
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A sure bet that King referred to that story at the fair. His evangelical listeners and voters knew exactly what he was talking about. And approved.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:28 am

Jeffrey wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:50 am
To be clear, the biblical stuff was a joke.

King was probably not referring to that.
With King, it certainly is plausible that he might refer to that.

I had a professor whose dissertation was on rape in the Bible. I'm very certain his position was not supportive. His point in class was that the students, who were mainly left and center-left needed to deal with and study the entire Bible, even the ugly parts of the OT. To ignore them is to fall in the trap of the " literalists" who pick and choose and spend most of their time proof-texting.
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Post by Jeffrey » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:00 am

The full statement indicates he’s talking about more recent human history which makes the statement more horrifying IMO.

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Post by voxpopuluxe » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:27 am

Northland10 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:28 am
Jeffrey wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:50 am
To be clear, the biblical stuff was a joke.

King was probably not referring to that.
With King, it certainly is plausible that he might refer to that.

I had a professor whose dissertation was on rape in the Bible. I'm very certain his position was not supportive. His point in class was that the students, who were mainly left and center-left needed to deal with and study the entire Bible, even the ugly parts of the OT. To ignore them is to fall in the trap of the " literalists" who pick and choose and spend most of their time proof-texting.
Steve King and the OT both emerge from a context which advocates for the submission of women and the unchallenged dominance of men. Tho at this historical moment I feel like the blame here lies less on some 2000+ year old text and more on the contemporary men who use that text to justify their own lust for domination.
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Post by Suranis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:39 am

Northland10 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:28 am
With King, it certainly is plausible that he might refer to that.

I had a professor whose dissertation was on rape in the Bible. I'm very certain his position was not supportive. His point in class was that the students, who were mainly left and center-left needed to deal with and study the entire Bible, even the ugly parts of the OT. To ignore them is to fall in the trap of the " literalists" who pick and choose and spend most of their time proof-texting.
Putting your own predudices about what a person MUST be thinging BECAUSE we all know that they always think like that is an extremely dangerous trap to fall into. He wasnt refering to the bible, and saying that he must have been "becasue they always are" is, frankly, stupid.

And ya there is rape in the Bible but nowhere does it say that rape and incest is a good idea, and the people who do it are portrayed as pretty flawed individuals. The aforementioned Noah was, to put it mildly, a pretty bad drunk, for example.

And I agree with that Professor. Dealing with a distorted nicey nice view of the Bible is just as dangerous as dragging the Bible into a stupid speech where it was not referenced at all, because it must be there as the deep root of all evil dontcha know.
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Post by Hurtzi » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Suranis wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:39 am
Northland10 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:28 am
With King, it certainly is plausible that he might refer to that.

I had a professor whose dissertation was on rape in the Bible. I'm very certain his position was not supportive. His point in class was that the students, who were mainly left and center-left needed to deal with and study the entire Bible, even the ugly parts of the OT. To ignore them is to fall in the trap of the " literalists" who pick and choose and spend most of their time proof-texting.
Putting your own predudices about what a person MUST be thinging BECAUSE we all know that they always think like that is an extremely dangerous trap to fall into. He wasnt refering to the bible, and saying that he must have been "becasue they always are" is, frankly, stupid.

And ya there is rape in the Bible but nowhere does it say that rape and incest is a good idea, and the people who do it are portrayed as pretty flawed individuals. The aforementioned Noah was, to put it mildly, a pretty bad drunk, for example.

And I agree with that Professor. Dealing with a distorted nicey nice view of the Bible is just as dangerous as dragging the Bible into a stupid speech where it was not referenced at all, because it must be there as the deep root of all evil dontcha know.
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Hurtzi wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:26 pm
Maybe Noah was a bad drunk - but he saved the Dinos from The Flood!
Apart from the Brontosauruses. Bastard. :(
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Suranis wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:33 pm
Hurtzi wrote:
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Maybe Noah was a bad drunk - but he saved the Dinos from The Flood!
Apart from the Brontosauruses. Bastard. :(
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Did he fail to publicize it in the hope no one would show and ask tough questions?

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pipistrelle wrote:
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Did he fail to publicize it in the hope no one would show and ask tough questions?
No. He forgot his supporters were all at the Portland protest.
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