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Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Judge Delivers Major Setback to Trump Policy to Increase Coal Mining on Federal Land

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/clim ... tback.html
The decision, by Judge Brian Morris of the United States District Court of the District of Montana, does not reinstate President Barack Obama’s 2016 freeze on new coal mining leases on public lands. That policy was part of an effort by the Obama administration to curtail the burning of coal, a major producer of greenhouse gases contributing to climate change.

But the court ruling does say that the 2017 Trump administration policy, enacted by former Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, to overturn Mr. Obama’s coal mining ban did not include adequate studies of the environmental effects of the mining, as required by the National Environmental Policy Act of 1970, or NEPA, one of the nation’s bedrock environmental laws.

“Federal Defendants’ decision not to initiate the NEPA process proves arbitrary and capricious,” Judge Morris wrote.

:snippity:

Efforts by Mr. Trump to deliver on his campaign promise to help the coal industry and roll back his predecessor’s signature environmental policies — particularly rules to curb oil and coal pollution, the chief causes of global warming — have repeatedly been blocked by the courts. Many have been denied for reasons similar to those given by Judge Morris in Friday’s decision: The administration did not follow correct legal protocol in justifying its actions.
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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:28 pm

Who would have thought that governing by E.O. would be so difficult ! :twisted:

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Post by Volkonski » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:42 pm

Coal jobs headed for another slump

https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinno ... ce5c933665
Meanwhile, the Trump administration’s efforts helped coal mining jobs rebound to 52,000 in 2018, after falling from 86,000 in 2009 to 50,000 at the start of 2017. This is welcome news for the workers and communities that depend upon coal mining, but underlying data indicate this may be a short-lived respite.

U.S. coal consumption fell 4% in 2018 to its lowest point in 39 years due to accelerating coal plant closures and reduced coal plant utilization. The electric power sector represented 93% of total U.S. coal consumption from 2007 to 2018, but over that period 68 GW of coal-fired generation (out of 313 GW in 2007) retired, capped by 13 GW of retirements in 2018.

As a result, U.S. coal production – and the mining jobs depending on it – declined from 1,145 million tons in 2007 to 756 million tons in 2018. The production downswing isn’t going away: The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) reports U.S. production is down 8.4% so far in 2018, and forecasts output will fall 72 million tons in 2019 and 44 million tons in 2020.

Coal mining’s one bright spot has been exports, which increased since Trump took office on increased overseas demand, buoying employment. But EIA reports exports began falling in the second half of 2018 and forecasts exports will fall 8% in 2019 as international prices remain well below the mark required for U.S. coal to be competitive globally.
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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:06 pm

Was wondering who are the buyers and found this:
In 2017, the U.S. exported 96.95 million short tons of coal to at least 42 countries, up more than 65 percent. The U.S. exports metallurgical coal and steam coal. Metallurgical coal can be used for steel production, and steam coal can be used for electricity generation. Metallurgical coal dominates U.S. coal exports. The following list shows the top five destinations of U.S. coal exports, export amount (million short tons) in 2017:

India- 11.46–12%
South Korea- 9.45– 10%
The Netherlands- 9.37–10%
Japan- 7.67–8%
Brazil- 7.56–8%
Total of top five-45.52–47%
http://uscoalexports.org/coal-exports-facts-figures/

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Post by tek » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:05 pm

It took just a matter of seconds for two 500-foot cooling towers from Massachusetts’ last coal-fired power plant to be reduced to rubble on Saturday.
https://www.masslive.com/news/2019/04/i ... ition.html
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Post by Addie » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:59 pm

Cross-posting (Oops! Sorry Tek.)

Associated Press
Poof, they’re gone: Power plant towers demolished in seconds

SOMERSET, Mass. (AP) — It took just a matter of seconds for two 500-foot cooling towers from Massachusetts’ last coal-fired power plant to be reduced to rubble Saturday.

The controlled demolition went off as scheduled at 8 a.m. at the former Brayton Point Station in Somerset. Video showed the giant towers along Mount Hope Bay crumple to the ground and a large cloud of dust rise into the air.

The plant had burned coal since 1963, though the cooling towers were not added until decades later. The plant closed in 2017 as environmental groups pushed for cleaner sources of energy generation.

The new owners of the property, Commercial Development Co., plan to turn the site into a multi-use facility mainly dedicated to supporting off-shore wind farms.

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Post by ZekeB » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:23 pm

Send a chunk of that concrete to Trump.
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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:30 pm

Addie wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:59 pm
Cross-posting (Oops! Sorry Tek.)

Associated Press
Poof, they’re gone: Power plant towers demolished in seconds

SOMERSET, Mass. (AP) — It took just a matter of seconds for two 500-foot cooling towers from Massachusetts’ last coal-fired power plant to be reduced to rubble Saturday.

The controlled demolition went off as scheduled at 8 a.m. at the former Brayton Point Station in Somerset. Video showed the giant towers along Mount Hope Bay crumple to the ground and a large cloud of dust rise into the air.

The plant had burned coal since 1963, though the cooling towers were not added until decades later. The plant closed in 2017 as environmental groups pushed for cleaner sources of energy generation.

The new owners of the property, Commercial Development Co., plan to turn the site into a multi-use facility mainly dedicated to supporting off-shore wind farms.
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=cQTFbycixyU
The cooling towers went operational 2009 in a closed loop cooling system. It replaced a cooling system where water taken was taken from the river. and then returned (to a different one, btw). The warm water returned was harming the environment. The towers didn't even make it a decade.

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Post by ZekeB » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:37 pm

Unpressurized (molten metal) nuclear reactors are safer. We have none here and the world worries about nuclear proliferation. There is a small crowd pushing for Thorium reactors. The CANDU heavy water reactors that Canada uses are safer than ours, but not by that much. Any steam generated power is going to need cooling. Unfortunately these kinds have to be located near rivers, lakes or oceans. These locations are usually more prone to earthquake issues or are near population centers. Sun and wind are a better choice, environmentally.
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Post by Volkonski » Fri May 03, 2019 1:31 pm

America's renewable energy set to surpass coal for the first month ever

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/29/business ... index.html
The renewable energy sector is projected to generate more electricity than coal during the month of April, according to a recent report published by the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis. That's never happened before.

Coal, long the king of the power sector, has already been dethroned by natural gas, a much cleaner burning fossil fuel. Now, coal is facing intensifying pressure from wind and solar power.

"Five years ago this never would have been close to happening," Dennis Wamstead, research analyst at IEEFA, said in an interview. "The transition that's going on in the electric sector in the United States has been phenomenal."

Even a decade ago, America's renewable energy had little presence other than hydro power. But a wave of investment — first into wind, and then solar — has made these new technologies far cheaper.
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Post by RTH10260 » Fri May 03, 2019 1:35 pm

How long until the industries request that this adminsitration drops the tariffs on solar panels and related products?

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Post by much ado » Fri May 03, 2019 1:49 pm

tek wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:05 pm
It took just a matter of seconds for two 500-foot cooling towers from Massachusetts’ last coal-fired power plant to be reduced to rubble on Saturday.
https://www.masslive.com/news/2019/04/i ... ition.html
Thanks! Here's the video from different angles:
Edit: (Oops! Didn't see that someone had already posted video. But this one is pretty good.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ColJr0QIozk

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Post by PaulG » Fri May 03, 2019 2:44 pm

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I think this the best bit of Brian Cox's Wonders of the Universe. And it is sort of relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEw6X2BhIy8

I would like to know how long it took to weaken the cooling towers and lay the charges. Things like that take a lot of preparation. I thought it was interesting that these "were believed to be the tallest power plant cooling towers ever brought down in a controlled demolition anywhere in the world" so apparently this had never been attempted on this scale before,

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Post by Volkonski » Fri May 10, 2019 2:43 pm

New York Is Killing Off Its Last Coal-Fired Power Plants

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... sions-rule
New York has adopted a rule to eventually kill off its last two coal-fired power plants.

The state’s environmental regulator said Thursday that it had finalized regulations requiring all power generators to meet new carbon-dioxide emissions limits that are nearly impossible for coal plants to hit. In doing so, the agency said, Governor Andrew Cuomo will fulfill his goal of banning New York power plants from burning coal by the end of 2020.

While the state has hailed the new emissions standards as key to combating climate change, others have warned New York may face higher electricity prices as a result. The price of wholesale power for delivery to New York City in 2021 has climbed more than 25% since the state proposed the rules, underscoring the trade offs for states trying to fight global warming.

New York has also proposed rules to limit nitrogen oxide from generators that kick in when demand for power peaks. The two regulations will help the state reach its target of cutting greenhouse gas emissions 40% by 2030 and shift to 100% clean electricity by 2040.
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Post by Volkonski » Mon May 13, 2019 5:13 pm

Future of workers uncertain as third-biggest US coal company declares bankruptcy

https://thinkprogress.org/cloud-peak-co ... e2479013d/
The third-largest coal company in the United States has declared bankruptcy, leaving the future of its more than 1,000 workers uncertain. The announcement is also the latest indicator that the faltering coal industry is spinning further into decline despite the efforts of President Donald Trump to save it.

:snippity:

While that trend has continued through several presidential administrations, more coal plants closed during Trump’s first two years in office than during the entire first term of the Obama administration.

In total, at least 50 U.S. coal plants have shuttered under Trump as of this month, according to a Sierra Club report released last week. The uptick reflects market realities but it also comes despite the White House’s best efforts to revive coal.

Trump has strongly supported the coal industry since becoming president, going so far as to advocate for a controversial bailout of the struggling sector. While that plan has fallen by the wayside amid pushback, the administration’s larger backing has not. Documents obtained recently under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) show that the Interior Department has even altered federal endangered species protections in order to help the coal industry.
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Post by Volkonski » Mon May 13, 2019 5:18 pm

Nearly 100,000 coal miners at risk of losing pension money by 2022

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending-now ... /948702131
Miners argue that the federal government accepted the responsibility starting in 1946, when President Harry Truman signed an executive order creating a welfare and retirement fund for miners after a nationwide United Mine Workers strike.

The current pension was created in 1974. It fared well until the 2008 recession, which caused the miners’ pension fund to lose $2 billion, according to United Mine Workers of America President Cecil Roberts. A series of bankruptcies after that cost another $4 billion, Roberts said. Now, the pensions of about 87,000 retirees and 20,000 working miners are at risk.

Should the fund become insolvent, the federal Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation, the federal agency aimed at protecting pensions, will be tasked with trying to pick up the slack. Lawmakers worry it will not be able to sufficiently sustain those miners currently receiving a pension, and that the failure of the miners’ pension fund could have a domino effect that would cause the PBGC itself to fail.
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Post by tek » Mon May 13, 2019 6:33 pm

But Trump has their backs! Right?
I'm sure there are a pile of farmers who will vouch for Trump's word.
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Mon May 13, 2019 7:03 pm

tek wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 6:33 pm
But Trump has their backs! Right?
I'm sure there are a pile of farmers who will vouch for Trump's word.
Oh yeah, their futures are secure. :sarcasm: They should be worried, very worried. But LaRump has their backs, just like he has the farmer's and …..
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Post by DejaMoo » Wed May 15, 2019 8:46 am

tek wrote:
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But Trump has their backs! Right?
I'm sure there are a pile of farmers who will vouch for Trump's word.
The past two days, the local news has been full of interviews with local farmers simultaneously bewailing their precarious financial state due to the trade wars and lauding Trump for initiating the trade wars.

They voted Republican because they practice punitive politics: they wanted to hurt other people, never expecting to get hurt themselves.
I've heard this bull before.

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Post by ZekeB » Wed May 15, 2019 10:37 am

DejaMoo wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 8:46 am
They voted Republican because they practice punitive politics: they wanted to hurt other people, never expecting to get hurt themselves.
They voted Republican because they think the Democrats give welfare benefits away to everyone. They don't consider the billions of dollars of agriculture subsidies they receive as being welfare. I thought today's farmers were a bit more educated than the farmers of yesteryear, but it appears not.
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Post by Volkonski » Sat May 18, 2019 4:25 pm

The figures in this article are worldwide not just the USA.

Report Finds Coal Power Investment Plummeting 75% Since 2015

https://interestingengineering.com/repo ... since-2015
More coal-fired power plants shut down in 2018 than were approved for construction, possibly marking the first time since the start of the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century that such a dramatic reversal has occurred.

Coal has been one of the essential industrial resources for the past 200 years, powering the first steam engines, ocean liners, and electric power plants, but no fossil fuel has been more responsible for the current climate crisis than coal. Responsible for a little bit less than 40% of electricity generation worldwide, the more than 200 years of coal burning has radically altered our environment, driven countless species to extinction through habitat disruption, and currently threatens to melt the ice caps that stand between us and sea level rise of tens of feet by the end of the century.

It is also undergoing one of the most dramatic retreats for a fuel resource in history according to a new International Energy Agency (IEA) investment report released this week. The intergovernmental agency, based in Paris, reported that companies around the world were reconsidering their planned investment in coal-powered energy generation in favor of alternative energy sources.

The Final Investment Decisions (FID) of investors worldwide reflected a 75% drop in commitment to investing in new coal plants over the last three years, capital investments that were directed to other energy resources like natural gas and renewables instead. In 2015, FIDs approved the construction on 88 gigawatts of coal-fired power plants, while last year this number fell to just 22 gigawatts.
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Post by Chilidog » Sat May 18, 2019 5:11 pm

But, but, but, STEAM POWERED CATAPULTS.

Or something.

Trump is stuck in the 70's

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Sat May 18, 2019 5:13 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:11 pm
But, but, but, STEAM POWERED CATAPULTS.

Or something.

Trump is stuck in the 70's
Of which century?
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Post by tek » Sat May 18, 2019 6:57 pm

DejaMoo wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 8:46 am
They voted Republican because they practice punitive politics: they wanted to hurt other people, never expecting to get hurt themselves.
So when I was working at a grocery store at age 16.
I was a "bagger" .. bottom of the totem pole.. in charge of nothing, responsible for all the shit work

One of the things that really grated on we baggers was having to go do price checks.. long before UPC codes, prices were ink-stamped on the product with a "kerchunker" and price changes involved erasing the prior ink and re-kerchunking..

Which the night grocery crew would do intermittently, if at all. Causing pissed-off customers.

So I and some of the other baggers went to the store manager and complained. And got the night grocery crew fired, and us promoted.

And I have regretted that ever since. You don't get ahead by kicking someone else down.
Now, to be fair, the store manager totally mishandled that.. which was another life lesson: management is gonna f'ck it up.
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Post by Chilidog » Sat May 18, 2019 7:40 pm

Kerchunk!

I remember those.

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