GHW Bush 41 Funeral, National Cathedral, Wed Dec 5 2018

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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:59 pm

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George W. Bush to eulogize late father, Trump to meet privately with Bush family

(CNN)Former President George H.W. Bush will be eulogized by his son, former President George W. Bush, along with a mix of family and friends on Wednesday at the Washington National Cathedral, the most high-profile event in a week of proceedings that will remember the remarkable life of the president who died on Friday at 94.

Along with his son, George H.W. Bush will be eulogized by former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, whose time in power overlapped with Bush, former US Sen. Alan Simpson, who became a close friend to Bush, and presidential historian Jon Meacham, the late president's biographer. ...

The plans for Bush's funeral were all put into place before Trump was ever elected, sources tell CNN. Presidents are traditionally asked to eulogize presidents who have died -- and in past state events like this, that has been the case -- but the Bush family is unlike any other and has another president in the family who will fill that role.

Trump will pay a condolence call to the Bush family on Tuesday at Blair House, according to the sources, a government house across the street from the White House. ...

Presidents Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter are all expected to attend the service, according to sources familiar with the planning of the funeral. The current and all former first ladies are also expected to attend, except for Rosalynn Carter, according to the sources.

Former Vice President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden will also attend the funeral, an aide to Biden confirms.

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Post by Kendra » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:14 pm

Trump does not do condolences well, will he put his foot in his mouth?

Wonder what the seating arrangement will be like? Will he have to suck it up and sit next to Hillary?

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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm

Going around DU, I dunno: MSNBC reporting Trump won't attend funeral.

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Post by AndyinPA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm

Addie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm
Going around DU, I dunno: MSNBC reporting Trump won't attend funeral.
I can understand that twitler doesn't like not being the center of interest, but I think he will probably attend. He has not been uninvited, as far as I've heard. I hadn't seen that on DU.

I'm pretty much not watching much news since it all seems to be accolades for G.W.

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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:30 pm

I haven't seen anything confirming. I think we should assume it's not true for now.
AndyinPA wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm
Addie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm
Going around DU, I dunno: MSNBC reporting Trump won't attend funeral.
I can understand that twitler doesn't like not being the center of interest, but I think he will probably attend. He has not been uninvited, as far as I've heard. I hadn't seen that on DU.

I'm pretty much not watching much news since it all seems to be accolades for G.W.

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Post by Kendra » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:52 pm

AndyinPA wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm
Addie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm
Going around DU, I dunno: MSNBC reporting Trump won't attend funeral.
I can understand that twitler doesn't like not being the center of interest, but I think he will probably attend. He has not been uninvited, as far as I've heard. I hadn't seen that on DU.

I'm pretty much not watching much news since it all seems to be accolades for G.W.
Same here, they really aren't coming up with anything fresh for wall to wall coverage. Must have killed Fox and Friends to open again with Bush and not with the caravan and the dangerous migrants :swoon:

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Post by Flatpointhigh » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:21 pm

AndyinPA wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:55 pm
Addie wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:35 pm
Going around DU, I dunno: MSNBC reporting Trump won't attend funeral.
I can understand that twitler doesn't like not being the center of interest, but I think he will probably attend. He has not been uninvited, as far as I've heard. I hadn't seen that on DU.

I'm pretty much not watching much news since it all seems to be accolades for G.W.
They won't let him talk. So he won't attend.

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:48 pm

Trump will attend. That's where the nation's eyes are, so everyone will notice if Trump is there or not. The fact that the other previous presidents aren't speaking, except for Bush's son, means that Trump is not being slighted. In his mind, Trump will envision this type of funeral for himself (but bigger!). In fact, that's probably the only thing he'll be thinking about while attending this funeral.
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Post by AndyinPA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:16 pm

Well, it's a nice thought.

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Post by Kendra » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:18 pm

I want to see if he can sit in a church pew properly, or will he take his usually front leaning I'm sitting on the toilet crouch?

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Post by Kendra » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:35 pm

Well, that visit to the rotunda to show respect for HW was fairly underwhelming.

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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:59 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:48 pm
Trump will attend. That's where the nation's eyes are, so everyone will notice if Trump is there or not. The fact that the other previous presidents aren't speaking, except for Bush's son, means that Trump is not being slighted. In his mind, Trump will envision this type of funeral for himself (but bigger!). In fact, that's probably the only thing he'll be thinking about while attending this funeral.
I bet he does not want a repeat of the Paris shitstorm for not attending an official function :twisted:

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Post by sad-cafe » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:38 pm

Lard ass can't stand without bobbling and the first nude couldn't find her sleeves again



This fucking "family" makes me sick. As much as I hated bush the dummy and disliked bush the elder for the war in iran bush the elder had some redeeming qualities.

Losing both parents within such a close time had to be hard.

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Post by AndyinPA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:06 pm

I would expect the service to be long. Even that might be hard for twitler to sit through.

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:18 am

The Hill -

Bush family promised Trump that funeral would avoid criticizing him: report
The Bush family promised President Trump that speeches and eulogies at the late George H.W. Bush's funeral would avoid criticizing him, sources familiar with the funeral preparations told The Washington Post.

The family reportedly assured Trump that the elder Bush's funeral would not include the anti-Trump messaging on display at the August funeral for the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

“The comparisons are presenting themselves; we are not heightening them,” a source familiar with funeral preparations told the Post.

Another source close to the preparations told the Post that Bush “wouldn’t want anyone there to feel uncomfortable, including the incumbent president.”

“It’s interesting, though, that praising the Bushes or McCain risks sounding critical of Trump even when Trump’s in no way part of the thinking,” the source told the newspaper.
I really find that last sentence (of what I quoted, there's a bit more at the link) interesting.
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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:16 am

FWIW, CNN is reporting that Prince Charles and Angela Merkel (sp?) will attend tomorrow's service. IIRC, it was reported that Prince Charles refused to attend Trump's tea with the Queen earlier this year. I really hope one of the media channels brings in a body language expert. :daydream:

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Post by p0rtia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:56 am

Kendra wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:18 pm
I want to see if he can sit in a church pew properly, or will he take his usually front leaning I'm sitting on the toilet crouch?
:yeah:

I can't imagine him sitting in a pew for the length of the service.
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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:29 am

From Trump's twitter feed.


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Post by AndyinPA » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:22 am

:eek2:

My first thought was it would be about him. My second thought was that it wasn't. And then he showed up. Silly me.

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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:34 am

Will also cross post in the Twitter thread. Dear Lord, poor Laura Bush.


Looking forward to being with the wonderful Bush family at Blair House today. The former First Lady will be coming over to the White House this morning to be given a tour of the Christmas decorations by Melania. The elegance & precision of the last two days have been remarkable!

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Post by AndyinPA » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:41 am

That's disgusting. I have no other words.

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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:50 am

AndyinPA wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:41 am
That's disgusting. I have no other words.
Agreed. Even if her decorations were in good taste (which they aren't), is it good taste to drag someone away from their family at this time? GW looked pretty emotional yesterday.

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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:21 am

Awwww. Sully the dog just came to the rotunda to pay his respects :bighug:

I do wonder if there was a bit of a tussle among the Bush family for who gets to bring him and who is stuck at Blair House having to greet the Trumps?

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