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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:27 pm

The denial is mildly interesting. To a non-lawyer, it might seem reasonable that the case should be transferred to Montgomery County as both human parties live there and the campaign party is now registered there having vacated its earlier Etowah County base.

But the unanimous ruling states that transferral is not a simple question of weighing which district has the better claim but transferral requires the "new" district to have a strong nexus to the case and the "old" district to have a weak nexus. Add to that the high bar placed on a mandamus petition and it seems to have been a foreseeably weak claim from Moore's side.

I am not a shipping clerk so I might have misunderstood or misrepresented the above.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:35 pm

Since the campaign was the origin of the defamation and it was registered in Montgomery at the time, makes sense why the suit was filed there. The campaign was basically an alter ego of Moore so where he lived was irrelevant as he wasn't the primary. Shouldn't matter that the campaign changed addresses later, otherwise that would be a way to avoid suits. I can't say as I see any reason to move it and neither did either court.
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Post by Sam the Centipede » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:43 am

That's fairly much what the ruling says, ND. But from what it says, it seems that the case could have been filed in Montgomery County and an attempt to transfer it to Etowah County against opposition would also have failed for the same reasons, even if the campaign's office were still in Etowah.

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:49 pm

The Hill -
Roy Moore sues Sacha Baron Cohen for defamation

Former Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore (R) sued actor and director Sacha Baron Cohen on Wednesday alleging that Cohen defamed Moore and caused emotional stress to the judge and his wife by tricking them into appearing on the Showtime program "Who is America?"

In a court filing, the judge and his wife allege that Cohen's use of a disguise and false pretenses to lure Moore and his wife Kayla to Washington, D.C. for a supposed awards ceremony and interview constituted fraud.

Cohen went on during the interview, which aired on Showtime earlier this year as part of his latest comedy program targeting Republicans and conservatives, to "defame" Moore by using a device "supposedly invented by the Israeli Army to detect pedophiles" to label Moore as such on the program.

Moore lost his Senate bid in December after it was revealed that several women alleged he had made passes at them or engaged in sexual misconduct with them when they were underage.

A release form signed by the judge for his appearance on the program, the complaint continues, was invalid due to the supposedly fraudulent conditions under which it was signed.

Moore's lawyers argue that the judge's family has "been the subject of widespread ridicule and humiliation" as a result of Cohen's actions, which they say includes "severe emotional distress and pain and financial damage."
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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:53 pm

IOW Moore prefers more press coverage and being laughed at... :think:

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MN-Skeptic wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:49 pm
Roy Moore sues Sacha Baron Cohen for defamation
ONE GUESS who is representing Roy Moore:
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The complaint alleges defamation, fraud, and IIED; seeks $95M.
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Post by Mr Pfister » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:05 pm

Asshats like this need to sue themselves first.

Why?

Because they do a far more effective job of defaming themselves than any of us could ever wish to.

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Post by Gregg » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:35 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:03 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:49 pm
Roy Moore sues Sacha Baron Cohen for defamation
ONE GUESS who is representing Roy Moore:
► Show Spoiler
The complaint alleges defamation, fraud, and IIED; seeks $95M.
I am really disappointed that the "easy peasy lemon squeezy" guy isn't handling it.
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As the NYT explains, many have sued Cohen; few have done so successfully.

It appears that Cohen's victims subjects usually sign waivers. There's also the issue of D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law (the suit was filed in D.D.C.; presumably at least one defendant will try to invoke D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law).
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bob wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:57 pm
As the NYT explains, many have sued Cohen; few have done so successfully.

It appears that Cohen's victims subjects usually sign waivers. There's also the issue of D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law (the suit was filed in D.D.C.; presumably at least one defendant will try to invoke D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law).
I know it won't happen, but it would be cool if Cohen represents himself and goes to trial in character.
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Post by ObjectiveDoubter » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:35 pm

Aside from the obvious ... that his reputation and job/financial outlook are in the toilet already so how could he have been damaged, might I add that this lawsuit will draw more negative attention by far than the original appearance did.

First of all, the series had a very small audience, even by Pay TV standards which is relatively small and shrinking all the time, to start with. Plus, the Moore bit was not one of the more successful ones; while it did make the news it was a nano-second blip compared to other episodes with other self-important electeds and celebrities being pranked.

Context has never been a strong-suit of Klayman's. I wonder if he went to Moore with the idea of suing.

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Post by Northland10 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:14 pm

bob wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:57 pm
As the NYT explains, many have sued Cohen; few have done so successfully.

It appears that Cohen's victims subjects usually sign waivers. There's also the issue of D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law (the suit was filed in D.D.C.; presumably at least one defendant will try to invoke D.C.'s anti-SLAPP law).
One would also be successful if they picked an attorney whose practice consists of more than lawsuits to harass others and press releases.
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Post by bob » Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:48 pm

AL.com: Roy Moore drops lawsuit related to U.S. Senate race:
Instead of filing a lawsuit, former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore is dropping one.

Moore's attorney filed a motion on Friday morning seeking to dismiss a lawsuit brought in July by the former U.S. Senate candidate against several people and political action committees related to the final weeks of the Senate campaign.

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Moore is involved in four other lawsuits connected to the Senate campaign - three of which he has filed himself.

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The defendants named in the lawsuit included four men who worked with Longleaf Strategies of Montgomery, Highway 31 Super Pac and Bully Pulpit Interactive, Waterfront Strategies and Priorities USA, Washington, D.C.-based entities the suit says worked with Highway 31. Those entities were also named as defendants.
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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Will Moore's dropping the lawsuit mean the defendants can collect some of their costs?

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Post by Orlylicious » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:20 pm

Gregg wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:35 pm
bob wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:03 pm
MN-Skeptic wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:49 pm
Roy Moore sues Sacha Baron Cohen for defamation
ONE GUESS who is representing Roy Moore:
► Show Spoiler
The complaint alleges defamation, fraud, and IIED; seeks $95M.
I am really disappointed that the "easy peasy lemon squeezy" guy isn't handling it.

Was thinking the same thing Gregg :lol:
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:11 pm

I'm trying to figure out why it was filed in DC when I can't see it as a hospitable venue, particularly for GIL.
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Notorial Dissent wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:11 pm
I'm trying to figure out why it was filed in DC when I can't see it as a hospitable venue, particularly for GIL.
1. Klayman is barred there (no PHV needed);
2. The interview took place in DC;
3. Headlines know no specific venue.
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THR: Sacha Baron Cohen's Show Made Donation to Anti-Gay Marriage Group to Woo Roy Moore:
Showtime files its first substantive legal brief in the $95 million defamation suit from Roy Moore.

Sacha Baron Cohen and Showtime Networks told a District of Columbia federal judge on Tuesday that Roy Moore filed his defamation lawsuit over Who Is America? in the wrong venue. According to a motion to transfer the case, the former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice signed a consent agreement that provided that all asserted claims related to the program must be adjudicated in New York.

But what's odd about this consent agreement is the revelation in a declaration by Who Is America? executive producer Todd Schulman that as a condition for his appearance, the producers made a $200 donation to a charity chosen by Moore.

Moore picked the Foundation for Moral Law, according to a copy of the agreement. That outfit founded by Moore has filed amicus briefs in cases opposing abortion, opposing same-sex marriage and in support of public prayer.

The $200 is not a lot, and certainly is nowhere near the $95 million in damages that Moore asserts he suffered after being interviewed by Cohen with a fictional device meant to detect pedophiles.

Nevertheless, it's unusual.

Moore is said to have signed the consent agreement in the presence of his wife.
The agreement is attached as an exhibit to the declaration in support of the motion to transfer.

Once the motion is granted and the case is transferred to New York, it'll be effectively over, as Klayman's PHV days are done.
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:45 am

Comes to mind something something about a fool for a client and a fool for a lawyer.....
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Post by Foggy » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:27 am

Yeah, except this is a pedophile fool client represented by a pedophile fool lawyer, which makes it a little more fun. :blink:
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:01 am

Foggy wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:27 am
Yeah, except this is a pedophile fool client represented by a pedophile fool lawyer, which makes it a little more fun. :blink:
Daaaamn, I totally missed that. :blink:
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Post by bob » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:34 pm

Foggy wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:27 am
Yeah, except this is a pedophile (allegedly!) fool client represented by a pedophile (allegedly!) fool lawyer, which makes it a little more fun.
:fingerwag:

FIFY (the Dicktator likes us to remember that Moore and Klayman like to sue for defamation, like all the time).
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"For completeness": Defendants' motion to transfer and P&As.
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AL.com: Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice race: Tom Parker wins:
Just before 11 p.m., Associate Justice Tom Parker was announced as the winner of the Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice race-- one of the most controversial races statewide.

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He also once served as legal adviser to Moore and has been a longtime ally of the former Chief Justice and former U.S. Senate candidate. Parker has said Moore was “unlawfully removed from office.”

Parker has previously said state courts can be vehicles for eventually reversing U.S. Supreme Court decisions that he claims have undermined the Constitution. The justice is also well-known for his vocal opinions on divisive issues like same-sex marriage and abortion. He said in 2016 that a judge, like anyone else, has a right to political speech under the U.S. Constitution.
Parker was the only other justice who dissented (along with Moore) from the dismissal of the 2012 eligibility challenge.
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Post by bob » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:36 pm

Quartz: Roy Moore’s lawyer is too busy to represent him right now:
The lawyer for failed Republican US senate candidate and accused child molester Roy Moore says he’s too busy to represent him right now. Moore is the plaintiff in an ongoing civil case against comedian Sacha Baron Cohen for defamation, emotional distress, and fraud.

“Plaintiffs need the additional time of 14 days because Plaintiffs’ counsel’s office is facing a sudden unforeseen influx of urgent client matters,” says a court filing submitted Thursday by Moore’s attorney, conservative activist Larry Klayman. It went on to list those urgent matters:
They include (1) the representation of two persons before the Mueller grand jury in the District of Columbia, (2) the representation of a client who needs to file for immediate injunctive relief after being removed from Twitter and Facebook, threatening her livelihood and (3) the representation of Christian client who is in federal lockup in the Federal Detention Center in Terre Haute, Indiana and whose life has been threatened by Muslim inmates, who have already murdered another inmate, and for which an FBI investigation has been initiated and is underway.
One of Klayman’s two clients mixed up in the Mueller investigation is conspiracy theorist and far-right commentator Jerome Corsi. Client number two is far-right political activist Laura Loomer, who chained herself to the front door of Twitter’s New York City offices this week to protest her ban from the messaging platform. Client number three appears to be Schaeffer Cox, an Alaska militia leader serving a 310-month prison sentence for his part in a 2012 conspiracy to murder federal officials.

“It’s just a question of priorities right now,” Klayman told Quartz, adding that yesterday’s filing was “a routine motion for an extension of time, that’s all.”

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Klayman claimed Baron Cohen’s legal team was trying to get the case moved to New York. “They think they’ll come up with a leftist judge there that’ll help them…but since judge Moore was interviewed in Washington, DC and all the events took place in Washington, DC, the case belongs there,” Klayman continued. “It’s a simple case of forum shopping.”
Klayman's Moore's motion for extension of time (to oppose transfer).

I don't recall if we knew this, but Moore's case is assigned (presently) to Hogan (a Reagan nominee).
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