Roy Moore - FORMER AL Supreme Court Chief Justice

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I think Judge Anna von Pop Tart should hear the case in a Denny's Court.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu May 02, 2019 7:50 am

Orlylicious wrote:
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Exactly. GIL called it mocking, we call it telling the truth. And has been pointed out here, it's not like he just retired, they TOOK THE TITLE AWAY.
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Re: Roy Moore - FORMER AL Supreme Court Chief Justice

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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu May 02, 2019 9:01 am

scirreeve wrote:
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Can anyone diagram this sentence?
To make the long story short, given space limitations in this column, and I will be writing more about this suit, which in the end I remain confident we will win no matter which court it is ultimately tried in.
I thought you said diaphragm. My bad.
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Post by bob » Fri May 03, 2019 4:14 pm

Techdirt: Unsurprisingly, Larry Klayman's Veiled Threats And Insulting Of Judges Isn't Helping Roy Moore's $95 Million Defamation Lawsuit:
Roy Moore, alleged sexual abuser of teens and apparent front runner for US Senate seat, continues to sue entertainer Sacha Baron Cohen for ruining his pristine reputation. Moore was duped into appearing in a segment with Cohen in which Cohen pretended to have acquired a "pedophile detector" crafted by the Israeli Army. During the bit, the alarm beeped twice in the vicinity of Moore.

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Even more unfortunately, Moore has decided to hire Larry Klayman as his lawyer. I suppose if you're going to lose, you may as well lose as loudly as possible. The lawsuit is far from over, though. So, that's going to give Moore the opportunity to pay Klayman repeatedly for irritating presiding judges and otherwise fail to advance Moore's case.

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The judge has decided to move the lawsuit to Manhattan despite Klayman's protests to the contrary. Klayman and Moore were likely going to lose this jurisdictional decision anyway, but Klayman made sure the loss would leave an impression on both the judge in Washington DC and the judges awaiting assignment of the incoming case. . . .

Representing a pretty much defamation-proof client in a $95 million defamation lawsuit can't be easy. But Klayman is insisting on making it as difficult as possible for both him and his client.
BuzzFeed wrote:In what appeared to be a veiled threat, Klayman told the judge that but for the fact that Moore was a "gentleman," Cohen wouldn't be walking around now. Asked to clarify what that meant after the hearing, Klayman told BuzzFeed News, "He would have been punched out on the spot."
Yes, that's what everyone's always saying about Roy Moore: he's a gentleman. In this case, though, he's managing to invert an old adage about legal representation. It's said the man who represents himself has a fool for a client. In this case, the fools are on both ends of the equation.
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WND: JUDGE ROY MOORE TO COURT: FRAUD CANCELS CONTRACT:
Motion for reconsideration also cites court's 'extra-judicial bias'

A lawyer representing Roy Moore, who twice was elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court and now is suing actor Sacha Cohen and Showtime for millions for fraudulently inducing him to appear on a show, is asking a federal court in Washington to reconsider a ruling that appears to be based on the alleged fraud.

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But the basis for that ruling is a clause in the allegedly fraudulent contract and, therefore, should not be followed, argued a motion filed in the Washington court by Freedom Watch founder Larry Klayman.

He argued the federal court precedent is that reconsideration may be granted when there is “clear error” in a ruling, such as basing the decision on a fraudulent contract.

Klayman also claimed the judge appeared to be biased, and a new judge should be assigned to hear the case.

“To be honest and straightforward, given the manner in which this court appeared to disrespect and disparage Plaintiff Moore at the outset of the hearing over whether he could still be referred to as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court – indeed a public figure such as a judge never loses his or her title – and then at the conclusion of the hearing read from an apparently pre-prepared order that was obviously penned even before the court heard oral argument, it would appear that the court not only prejudged defendants’ motion to transfer, but also harbored extra-judicial bias toward Chief Justice Moore,” the filing states.
If Klayman hadn't filed a reconsideration motion charging judicial bias, I would think he was slipping.
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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Thu May 16, 2019 12:37 pm

I wonder how much Idiot One is paying Idiot Two.

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Re: Roy Moore - FORMER AL Supreme Court Chief Justice

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Post by bob » Thu May 16, 2019 1:09 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 12:37 pm
I wonder how much Idiot One is paying Idiot Two.
I would guess a third of the zero dollars that a jury will never be convened to reward.
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Post by Maybenaut » Thu May 16, 2019 5:45 pm

bob wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 1:09 pm
Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 12:37 pm
I wonder how much Idiot One is paying Idiot Two.
I would guess a third of the zero dollars that a jury will never be convened to reward.
Idiot One and Idiot Two might have to pay Defendants’ legal fees, depending on whether the NY Court applies DC or NY anti-SLAPP law. As I understand it, NY’s law is narrow and probably wouldn’t cover this, but DC’s is broad, and includes satirical statements of public concern.

It was the forum selection clause in the contract that got the case to NY, but I don’t know whose substantive law controls.
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Post by bob » Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:45 pm
Idiot One and Idiot Two might have to pay Defendants’ legal fees, depending on whether the NY Court applies DC or NY anti-SLAPP law.
I bet 400 quatloos that, once transferred to S.D.N.Y., it'll be quietly dismissed.
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Post by Maybenaut » Thu May 16, 2019 6:05 pm

bob wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:45 pm
Idiot One and Idiot Two might have to pay Defendants’ legal fees, depending on whether the NY Court applies DC or NY anti-SLAPP law.
I bet 400 quatloos that, once transferred to S.D.N.Y., it'll be quietly dismissed.
I don’t doubt that. I just think that filing a defamation claim that is so obviously a loser is such a risky proposition.
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Post by tek » Thu May 16, 2019 6:24 pm

"quietly dismissed" is the best possible outcome of all of GIL's legal adventures.

He gets to whine and make press releases, "send money" .. nothing happens, and he's on to the next shiny object.

At some point the legal system has to figure this out and deal with it.
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Post by bob » Thu May 16, 2019 6:28 pm

tek wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:24 pm
At some point the legal system has to figure this out and deal with it.
Klayman has multiple disciplinary proceedings pending with the D.C. bar. But its glacial pace is making the California bar look good.
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Post by tek » Thu May 16, 2019 6:34 pm

Justice delayed etc :(
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Post by Northland10 » Thu May 16, 2019 6:41 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:05 pm
bob wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:45 pm
Idiot One and Idiot Two might have to pay Defendants’ legal fees, depending on whether the NY Court applies DC or NY anti-SLAPP law.
I bet 400 quatloos that, once transferred to S.D.N.Y., it'll be quietly dismissed.
I don’t doubt that. I just think that filing a defamation claim that is so obviously a loser is such a risky proposition.
Hasn't seemed to worry him before.
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Post by Orlylicious » Thu May 16, 2019 6:49 pm

My understanding is that forum selection doesn't change even with a fraud charge unless the actual forum selection clause was itself fraud. This really makes the Alabama court look terrible, the former Chief Justice doesn't understand this?

Now people are saying Matt Gaetz might move from Florida to Alabama to run for the seat, would be awesome to get rid of him but seems farfetched. Whatever garbage Roy and Larry are pumping, amp it up! Cause we'll be using it for the election.
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Post by bob » Thu May 16, 2019 7:00 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:49 pm
My understanding is that forum selection doesn't change even with a fraud charge unless the actual forum selection clause was itself fraud.
Correct; that's exactly what the judge ruled.
This really makes the Alabama court look terrible, the former Chief Justice doesn't understand this?
Objection! That implies Moore cares about anyone other than himself.

Klayman's Moore's reconsideration motion. Four whole pages; Klayman's doing minimal work for maximal publicity.
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Post by Northland10 » Thu May 16, 2019 7:10 pm

bob wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 7:00 pm
Klayman's Moore's reconsideration motion. Four whole pages; Klayman's doing minimal work for maximal publicity.
Good thing he only does this for publicity because tossing allegations at the judge is probably not helpful in getting him to reverse his ruling. Surprised he did not tods leftist in there, despite the judge being a Reagan appointee.
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