Menard's new tall tale. . .

[arayder]

Bobby's MO is getting to freeman wannabe's money through their fantasies.

He tried to create a "freeman valley" years ago claiming the project could simply appropriate federal land. Nothing ever happened. Except for the TV show angle this pitch is the same as his old fantasy.

Bobby loves the hype and shuns the work. The projects usually make enough money to keep him in Moose Heads.

[arayder]

Bobby updates the gullible on the progress toward the establishment of artist valley:

Robert Menard
Well things are sure moving ahead nicely! Can't divulge any information publicly at the moment, but for those interested feel free to PM me for details!

Is misinformation provided by Bobby for his monetary gain fraud?

[johnpcapitalist]

Bobby's MO is getting to freeman wannabe's money through their fantasies.

He tried to create a "freeman valley" years ago claiming the project could simply appropriate federal land. Nothing ever happened. Except for the TV show angle this pitch is the same as his old fantasy.

The idea of just taking federal land to build your right-wing paradise is novel. That proposition is a great screening tactic to make sure the only people that buy into your scheme are the ones so stupid that they'll never leave. Everyone else, even halfway-in "FMOTL"s look at it, roll their eyes and say, "yeah right" and you don't have to waste time trying to sell them.

This reminds me of a scheme that I think I wrote up on Fogbow 1.0 around the time of the MNWR insurrection in 2016. Some con artist bought a few acres of land in an extremely rural county in northern Idaho and started selling "information packets" for a conservative paradise. The vision was a walled city (medieval style) that residents could retreat into if any scary non-white people were ever spotted in the area. Everyone would be required to own AR-15s and demonstrate proficiency in using them. There would be a town square with a reflecting pool where you could go to meditate on how wonderful guns were. And everyone would have a job at a gun factory, which would be the largest employer in town.

Nothing ever came of that scheme. I'm not even sure that the guy sold enough "information packets" at $500 to be worth his time. But it sure provided a nice glimpse into the far-right id: a world ruled by primal fear that scary brown and black people are coming to take away your things so you have to run away as far as possible and hide, curled up with lots of guns because they might strike at any moment.

[arayder]

Robert Menard
. . .Austin is the one who shall henceforth be known a "Suckit Austin". He is a malignant cyberstalking malicious obsessed cockwomble who decided over a decade ago to try and destroy my reputation because he does not like my personal views and political beliefs.

No, Bobby, the problem I have with you is that you are a conman.

The fact that you left that characteristic out of your "reasons" shows me you are trying to hide your narcissistic manipulations of others.

Wanna' rub my nose in the dirt? Make one of these schemes work.

[arayder]

Bobby's MO is getting to freeman wannabe's money through their fantasies.

He tried to create a "freeman valley" years ago claiming the project could simply appropriate federal land. Nothing ever happened. Except for the TV show angle this pitch is the same as his old fantasy.

The idea of just taking federal land to build your right-wing paradise is novel. That proposition is a great screening tactic to make sure the only people that buy into your scheme are the ones so stupid that they'll never leave. Everyone else, even halfway-in "FMOTL"s look at it, roll their eyes and say, "yeah right" and you don't have to waste time trying to sell them.

This reminds me of a scheme that I think I wrote up on Fogbow 1.0 around the time of the MNWR insurrection in 2016. Some con artist bought a few acres of land in an extremely rural county in northern Idaho and started selling "information packets" for a conservative paradise. The vision was a walled city (medieval style) that residents could retreat into if any scary non-white people were ever spotted in the area. Everyone would be required to own AR-15s and demonstrate proficiency in using them. There would be a town square with a reflecting pool where you could go to meditate on how wonderful guns were. And everyone would have a job at a gun factory, which would be the largest employer in town.

Nothing ever came of that scheme. I'm not even sure that the guy sold enough "information packets" at $500 to be worth his time. But it sure provided a nice glimpse into the far-right id: a world ruled by primal fear that scary brown and black people are coming to take away your things so you have to run away as far as possible and hide, curled up with lots of guns because they might strike at any moment.

That's a good rehash of the con. It shares the same element of fantasy so prominent in Bobby's scams. It's as if, never having really done anything in life, the scammers think people are going to believe it's easy to create some fantasy island.

With freeman valley the hook was that Menard was going to simply appropriate federal land, thus saving the wannabes that cost.

This time scam is run on the notion that pots of money are going to roll in from the reality show associated with artist valley.

So far Stargazer Inc. (the production company Bobby says will produce the show)) hasn't responded to 2 emails and a phone call asking if they have a deal with Bobby.

Makes ya' wonder, eh?

Wait, breaking news from Bobby. . .

Robert Menard
Well things are sure moving ahead nicely! Can't divulge any information publicly at the moment, but for those interested feel free to PM me for details!

When was the last time one saw a successful developer hiding basic information from the public about a project?

[Frater I*I]

Maybe Bobby will make enough for a case of Molsens this time, unlike his failed robo-breath enterprise....

[TheNewSaint]

Robert Menard
Austin... is a malignant cyberstalking malicious obsessed cockwomble who decided over a decade ago to try and destroy my reputation because he does not like my personal views and political beliefs.

From what I've seen of arayder's Robert Menard coverage, I find this accusation plausible.

[northland10]

Robert, Trent, that guy and his Idaho compound dream, and Sporky always amuse me with their fevered dreams of building some conservative community. These are folks who have never worked and played well with others and living in a community eventually requires finding a way to coexist (i.e. give up certain freedoms as Locke would have said).

There there is the whole, Community-Comune-Communism thing they have not considered.

They might start off fine but soon would be at each other's throats over the rules they had to create to keep from being at each other's throats. Eventually, they would need some authoritarian and charismatic leader (Ammon comes to mind, as they see him as charismatic) to rein them in which means, oops, there goes freedom. Then, either due to the existing megalomaniac personally already existing in the leader or by desperation in keeping the community from falling apart, they have to grab even more power. And, as we descend into the world of power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, the community becomes a cult.

Their ideal blessed freedom has become eternal servitude.

[arayder]

Robert, Trent, that guy and his Idaho compound dream, and Sporky always amuse me with their fevered dreams of building some conservative community. These are folks who have never worked and played well with others and living in a community eventually requires finding a way to coexist (i.e. give up certain freedoms as Locke would have said).

There there is the whole, Community-Comune-Communism thing they have not considered.

They might start off fine but soon would be at each other's throats over the rules they had to create to keep from being at each other's throats. Eventually, they would need some authoritarian and charismatic leader (Ammon comes to mind, as they see him as charismatic) to rein them in which means, oops, there goes freedom. Then, either due to the existing megalomaniac personally already existing in the leader or by desperation in keeping the community from falling apart, they have to grab even more power. And, as we descend into the world of power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, the community becomes a cult.

Their ideal blessed freedom has become eternal servitude.

I see the initial start up to so many of these efforts as being so awfully back breaking that success is dependent on sweat, not inspiration.

Even if the group gets lucky and finds a farm or commune for sale (thus saving a lot of building like that in Menard's plan) the work necessary make repairs, to put food on the table, heat the buildings and keep everyone healthy and safe is daunting.

In the scenario above I could see the conflict between the inhabitants heightened by utter fatigue, illness and malnutrition.

[arayder]

This from the Artist Valley Facebook page. It turns out my supposition that Souris is the "location" of the valley was correct.




Readers will note that Bobby offers no real details and is showing a picture of the land anyone could find on the internet.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 17 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far few details have been released.

[woodworker]

So approximately 19 acres of cleared arable land, no serious infrastructure, etc. -- I foresee a HUGE success. I mean, people will be lining up to come live in this new utopia and to help dig latrines and wells (hopefully not in the same spot) and to put up communal housing (separate for each sex of course and for the younglings), except for the palace for the head honcho and his concubines. Exciting to watch.

[arayder]

So approximately 19 acres of cleared arable land, no serious infrastructure, etc. -- I foresee a HUGE success. I mean, people will be lining up to come live in this new utopia and to help dig latrines and wells (hopefully not in the same spot) and to put up communal housing (separate for each sex of course and for the younglings), except for the palace for the head honcho and his concubines. Exciting to watch.

If you look at the Google Earth photo Bobby pasted on his make-believe Facebook page you see you see homes and businesses bordering on the property he pretends he is going to buy. One has to wonder what the folks owning these homes and businesses would say if a of gaggle of unskilled freeman wannabes showed up to act out Bobby's plan to pitch tents and build tiny houses and a bunch of community buildings while they befoul Norris Pond.

Doesn't make sense? It's not about artist valley.

Bobby's just concluded a series of disastrous interviews with Beth Martens, including a pathetic, drunken exchange during which he slurred out every bad idea he's had since the 2000"s.

So now he has to change the subject.

He's done this before. Years ago Moosehead Boy went on a tear challenging the cops and the courts to negotiate with him after a series of drunken, stoned Youtubes

See one slurfest at:



They didn't pay anymore attention than the zoning authorities in Souris have paid to Bobby's Moosehead soaked pipe dream

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Dope Clock II: It's been 17 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far few details have been released.

[johnpcapitalist]

This from the Artist Valley Facebook page. It turns out my supposition that Souris is the "location" of the valley was correct.



Readers will note that Bobby offers no real details and is showing a picture of the land anyone could find on the internet.

The 22 acre parcel referenced is for sale for C$500,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005226/

The pond itself is on a 19 acre parcel which is for sale for C$360,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005226/

There's another 18 acre parcel adjacent to the above two for C$380,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005223/. I'm not sure if this is the farm field to the east or the land to the west that he thinks the town is "hot" to have him develop.

The three parcels together are listed at $1,240,000 Canadian socialist "dollars," which converts to approximately $14,000 American freedom dollars.

Incidentally, Bobby kind of selectively edited the Google map pic because there's a potato processing facility on the southeast boundary of his little slice o' heaven, which ought to be a good source of truck noise and potentially of the fragrant smell of dried instant mashed potato mix being manufactured. And if that smell doesn't get to you, the aquaculture facility next to the potato plant probably will. So he's basically proposing to settle on the land next to two potentially fragrant industrial sites.

Not that Menard actually has C$1.25 million lying around, or even a down payment on that much.

It might be fun to contact Dr. Donald Netolitzky, who might read posts here and who certainly reads/posts at Quatloos, so he can use his position as the SovCit expert for the Alberta Supreme Court, to alert the relevant PEI authorities and let them know that they might be getting a visit from the dean of Canadian SovCits. There goes the neighborhood!

[TheNewSaint]

Beauty eh?

Take off, you hoser.

[arayder]

Nice post, johnpcapitalist. That's a lotta' money.

But Bobby's not going to start artist valley or buy the land. This is all show on his part. His MO is to do just enough to look good to the gullible and find a way to pocket some or all of the money contributed to the effort by witless freemen.

He'll have an excuse for the failure and he might even have get his marks to sign a waiver form removing any liability on his part should the project fail. He knows it will be hard to pin a fraud rap on him and any nitwit stupid enough give him money probably couldn't get it together so as to drag him into civil court.

It's this poney's only trick. He ran this gambit with freeman valley, 3 different ACCPs, the world freeman society and countless other smaller scams.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 18 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far few details have been released.

[northland10]

His "treed lot" is a flood plain. The west side of the river is a hill. There may be a reason why this has not been developed yet.

[RTH10260]

► Show Spoiler

This from the Artist Valley Facebook page. It turns out my supposition that Souris is the "location" of the valley was correct.



Readers will note that Bobby offers no real details and is showing a picture of the land anyone could find on the internet.

The 22 acre parcel referenced is for sale for C$500,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005226/

The pond itself is on a 19 acre parcel which is for sale for C$360,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005226/

There's another 18 acre parcel adjacent to the above two for C$380,000: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/ ... 202005223/. I'm not sure if this is the farm field to the east or the land to the west that he thinks the town is "hot" to have him develop.

The three parcels together are listed at $1,240,000 Canadian socialist "dollars," which converts to approximately $14,000 American freedom dollars.

► Show Spoiler

Incidentally, Bobby kind of selectively edited the Google map pic because there's a potato processing facility on the southeast boundary of his little slice o' heaven, which ought to be a good source of truck noise and potentially of the fragrant smell of dried instant mashed potato mix being manufactured. And if that smell doesn't get to you, the aquaculture facility next to the potato plant probably will. So he's basically proposing to settle on the land next to two potentially fragrant industrial sites.

Not that Menard actually has C$1.25 million lying around, or even a down payment on that much.

It might be fun to contact Dr. Donald Netolitzky, who might read posts here and who certainly reads/posts at Quatloos, so he can use his position as the SovCit expert for the Alberta Supreme Court, to alert the relevant PEI authorities and let them know that they might be getting a visit from the dean of Canadian SovCits. There goes the neighborhood!

Wouldn't that be nearer to 1'000'000 USD?

[northland10]

The three parcels together are listed at $1,240,000 Canadian socialist "dollars," which converts to approximately $14,000 American freedom dollars.

Wouldn't that be nearer to 1'000'000 USD?

Dan Aykroyd said 1,000 was 10 America so JPC got his rates correct minus a little difference because, well, Canadian Bacon was 25 years ago so there has been small slight changes in the exchange rate.

Don't diss Dan.

[RTH10260]

those denominations they have in N.America, it's confusing

[northland10]

As seen with the movie clip, the exchange rate from CAD to USD is long-lived running joke. It is probably a bit more fun for those of us in the north (I grew up in Michigan that has that US state next door called Canada) as we have more connection to those socialist commies to the north.

Oddly, when I lived near Traverse City, we still referred to Canada as our neighbors to the north even though Windsor was a 5-hour drive southeast (Michigan folks don't refer to miles, they refer to time).

[arayder]

His "treed lot" is a flood plain. The west side of the river is a hill. There may be a reason why this has not been developed yet.

Yeah, it looks like a spot that would be a challenge for an honest to God developer.

Hoping to convince the gullible that he's got the deal all tied up Menard says he has an agreement in principle on the land. The problem is that an agreement in principle can be a mutual acceptance of the general terms or conditions of a deal without having completed the deal. So Bobby calls up the realtors (if he's bothered to do that much) and they tell him what he has to do to purchase the property. He says, "Okay" and then turns around and plays some word games on his marks.

Classic Bobby.

Then he tells the gullible that they are going to pitch tents on the property with no utilities, no sewers and no water and start making tiny houses, shops and a community center. . .and a T.V. producer is going to pay big bucks to film it all happening? He has an agreement in principle with the production company. . .which, by the way, won't answer emails or take calls on the matter.

Classic Bobby.

We are supposed to believe that neighbors and the zoning authorities aren't going to say a word about the smell when this Moosehead soaked loser creates a sh*thole at the edge of town?

Classic Bobby.

You see, Bobby is a narcissist who down deep figures the gullible artists and freemen he's scamming are lessers who deserve what they get.

"What?" freeman lurkers say.

Ask Bobby straight up what members of the World Freeman Society got for their dues. What did they get after he walked away from the society like a slimy slum lord?

Ask Bobby what any of the subscribers to the three iterations of the ACCP got for their subscription fees and monthly dues. Was he still soaking them when it was clear the effort was a bust? Did he ever refund any money? Ask him!

Ask Bobby if there were any investors in his phony video game company? Did any of them get their money back when project folded after it was discovered he had stolen the name of the company from a German company?

Ask questions, freemen.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 18 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far few details have been released.

[arayder]

It turns out he realtor handling the property Lying Bobby Menard assures his marks he "will be using" says the property is not sold to anyone.

R******** <***********@royallepage.ca>
To:
arayder**********

Fri, Jul 9 at 5:43 PM

I am the listing agent for this property.

We are currently not under contract for this property!
Is there anything else I can help you with?
R******

A property is listed as “under contract” once a buyer has made an offer and the seller has accepted.

Bobby's caught in yet another lie!

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Dope Clock II: It's been 19 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

[arayder]

Over on his Facebook page Bobby Menard just re-posted a screed entitled "20 Things I've Learned (Or Had Confirmed) About Humanity During The 'Pandemic"

I considered not posting the self-serving screed. But, I think people need to see just how self-satisfied Loser Booby really is.

Jean-Guy Chauvin
1/ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.
2/ At least 20% of the population has strong authoritarian tendencies, which will emerge under the right conditions.
3/ Fear of death is only rivalled by the fear of social disapproval. The latter could be stronger.
4/ Propaganda is just as effective in the modern day as it was 100 years ago. Access to limitless information has not made the average person any wiser.
5/ Anything and everything can and will be politicised by the media, government, and those who trust them.
6/ Many politicians and large corporations will gladly sacrifice human lives if it is conducive to their political and financial aspirations.
7/ Most people believe the government acts in the best interests of the people. Even many who are vocal critics of the government.
8/ Once they have made up their mind, most people would rather to commit to being wrong, than admit they were wrong.
9/ Humans can be trained and conditioned quickly and relatively easily to significantly alter their behaviours - for better or worse.
10/ When sufficiently frightened, most people will not only accept authoritarianism, but demand it.
11/ People who are dismissed as 'conspiracy theorists' are often well researched and simply ahead of the mainstream narrative.
12/ Most people value safety and security more than freedom and liberty, even if said 'safety' is merely an illusion.
13/ Hedonic adaptation occurs in both directions, and once inertia sets in, it is difficult to get people back to 'normal'.
14/ A significant % of people thoroughly enjoy being subjugated.
15/ 'The Science' has evolved into a secular pseudo-religion for millions of people in the West. This religion has little to do with science itself.
16/ Most people care more about looking like they are doing the right thing, rather than actually doing the right thing.
17/ Politics, the media, science, and the healthcare industries are all corrupt, to varying degrees. Scientists and doctors can be bought as easily as politicians.
18/ If you make people comfortable enough, they will not revolt. You can keep millions docile as you strip their rights, by giving them money, food, and entertainment.
19/ Modern people are overly complacent and lack vigilance when it comes to defending their own freedoms from government overreach.
20/ It's easier to fool a person than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Bonus thought: 21/ Most people are fairly compassionate and have good intentions (this is good)
As a result, most people deeply struggle to understand that some people, including our 'leaders', CAN have malicious or perverse intentions (this is bad)."

Frankly, this self-deluding, haughty screed feigning moral and intellectual superiority is just the sort of hypocritical horse sh*t Bobby wallows in every day.

Bobby has no idea what's in the hearts of hard working, caring Canadians. He doesn't even understand himself. If he did he'd do something about his narcissistic personality disorder, stop drinking and quit scamming everyone he meets. He doesn't realize that the bag of bitterness that is his soul is still trying to please his old man by telling childish success stories.

Bobby does know how to manipulate gullible wannabe freemen, as we see in in his newly minted Artist Valley scam. The "go-to move" in all Bobby's scams come in convincing hapless freemen into believing they are superior to "the sheeple". . .and that he, Bobby, can show them the way.

Hardly. Bobby Menard is a 56 year-old loser who, in the advanced stages of a Moosehead soaked life, can't do anything but repeat the scams he came up with decades ago, back when he brain wasn't quite so wet.

Don't like what I say, Menard? Well, make Artist Valley work and then shove it down my throat.

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Dope Clock II: It's been 23 days since Bobby Menard announced plans to create "Artists Valley". So far all he has done is lie through his teeth!

[TheNewSaint]

Frankly, this self-deluding, haughty screed feigning moral and intellectual superiority is just the sort of hypocritical horse sh*t Bobby wallows in every day.

Oh, calm down. It's just a piece of internet effluvia that's been circulating in the poot-o-sphere: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Acce ... e&ie=UTF-8

[jemcanada2]

As seen with the movie clip, the exchange rate from CAD to USD is long-lived running joke. It is probably a bit more fun for those of us in the north (I grew up in Michigan that has that US state next door called Canada) as we have more connection to those socialist commies to the north.

Oddly, when I lived near Traverse City, we still referred to Canada as our neighbors to the north even though Windsor was a 5-hour drive southeast (Michigan folks don't refer to miles, they refer to time).

Please write this post in French as well! Don’t make Dan pay you a visit!