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bill_g wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:08 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:54 am
bill_g wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:14 am Pro-tip: Make a donation to just about any Catholic charity, and you'll get on Epoch Time's mailing list with an endless supply of "free issues" for bird cage liners.
What is the connection with Catholic charities? I, and most of my family and friends, have made donations to various Catholic charities and have never received a copy of it.
I "encode" my donations with misspellings of my name so I can track who sells my contact info. Some very nice nuns in Illinois that need their sanctuary foundation fixed gives out info to the Epoch Times, America Needs Fatima, and scads of others.
Some Catholic Charities are likely not as aware of what happens with their data, especially if they are small and have the assistance of outside fundraisers (and do not understand the need to follow-up on the vendors to ensure donor privacy). The reason why some are coming from the Epoch Times is that Epoch Times is looking to buy lists of donors who they know contribute to a type of organization. It is Epoch times that is identifying a certain segment, not necessarily the original organization. Their analytics probably have told them that they get a better response with those who have certain affinities as shown in their giving habits.
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sugar magnolia wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:54 am
bill_g wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:14 am Pro-tip: Make a donation to just about any Catholic charity, and you'll get on Epoch Time's mailing list with an endless supply of "free issues" for bird cage liners.
What is the connection with Catholic charities? I, and most of my family and friends, have made donations to various Catholic charities and have never received a copy of it.
I'd guess it's an overlap with certain cross sections and not the catholic church as a whole. Many family I have that are what would be described as evangelicals are also RWNJs which are the prime soft targets of the Epoch Times and without fail get free issues. I'm sure the catholics who bristle at the inclusionary attitude of Pope Francis have many similarly susceptible individuals. Frankly it never ceases to amaze me how these people claim their faith is so integral to their being yet completely disregard any meaningful tenets of the same.
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somerset wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:50 pm
Suranis wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:41 pm Honestly I've never heard of anything like that, and I don't' think there's any love lost between the CC and Falun Gong. I did a search for that online and All I could find was an article about Charities exchanging mailing lists, from 2004, that said a lot of charities did it at that time

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index. ... w&cpid=244

So I'm calling questionable on that.
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As an aside, the Catholic Church operates within China. It's low-key, but there. For example, there are two Catholic Churches in Shenzhen. The oldest one is in Nanshan, which used to be the only place where foreigners were allowed to live and the newer (and much larger) one is in the Futian district.

I don't see the church jeopardizing their presence in China by cozying up to the Falun Gong or Epoch Times
It could be a secondary hand off too. My tracking method says the nuns started it.
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Baidn wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:19 pm Frankly it never ceases to amaze me how these people claim their faith is so integral to their being yet completely disregard any meaningful tenets of the same.
Amen to that. I've been criticized for helping the homeless, feeding the poor, et al. Water off my back. If they ever need me, I'll be there.
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northland10 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:13 pm Some Catholic Charities are likely not as aware of what happens with their data, especially if they are small and have the assistance of outside fundraisers (and do not understand the need to follow-up on the vendors to ensure donor privacy). The reason why some are coming from the Epoch Times is that Epoch Times is looking to buy lists of donors who they know contribute to a type of organization. It is Epoch times that is identifying a certain segment, not necessarily the original organization. Their analytics probably have told them that they get a better response with those who have certain affinities as shown in their giving habits.
I imagine that is true. It is certainly true for small charities that use professional fund raisers.

In fact, I know it's true for church groups because I recently received appeals from two groups from different locations in the US, but very similar materials, to be returned to a different PO boxes in the same city. Pretty much a cut-n-paste job. Coulda been a total scam.They got round filed.
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I certainly could see certain hard-right elements of the Catholic Church cozying up with Falun Gong on the basis of shared ideology, especially anti-Communism. I'm thinking of Opus Dei or the sedevacantist groups (like Marcel Lefebvre's whackadoo Holocaust denial cult, the Society of Saint Pius X) that think the Papacy is actually vacant since Vatican II because that's when the Church "lost its way" or whatever. SSPX is notable because it had been excommunicated, but had relations with the Holy See somewhat normalized under Benedict XVI. Shocking, I know, that a former member of the Hitler Youth would take sympathy upon his fellow fascists.

A lot of those right-wing elements fall into the Jeane Kirkpatrick category of being able to support anyone or justify anything, no matter how horrid, in the name of opposing Communism.
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fierceredpanda wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:08 pm Benedict XVI. Shocking, I know, that a former member of the Hitler Youth would take sympathy upon his fellow fascists.
He was also Grand Inquisitor...
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Well nice to see the good old Anti-catholic Bigotry bubbling up.

IN fact Opus Dei does not have a particularly anti- communist ethos. In fact the 2 most prominent politicians associated with Opus Dei as of 2006 were center left politicians, and women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei_and_politics
Although accused of favoring a right-wing and anti-woman agenda, two of the most visible politicians connected to Opus Dei (Rt. Hon. Ruth Kelly MP. and Paola Binetti of Italy) are members of center-left parties and are women, reported Allen in 2006.
Outside of a Dan Brown Novel, Opus Dei is a conservative catholic organization but not the world controlling hell organization people make it out to be. I've met a few of them and they are morally rigid but otherwise nice people.
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fierceredpanda wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:08 pm
A lot of those right-wing elements fall into the Jeane Kirkpatrick category of being able to support anyone or justify anything, no matter how horrid, in the name of opposing Communism.
Which is another wonderful irony in that (1) they pretty much to a man have no idea what communism even is they just go "communism bad!" and (2) Jesus is very much a socialist if you are being honest about the teachings
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Suranis wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:59 pm Well nice to see the good old Anti-catholic Bigotry bubbling up.

IN fact Opus Dei does not have a particularly anti- communist ethos. In fact the 2 most prominent politicians associated with Opus Dei as of 2006 were center left politicians, and women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei_and_politics
Although accused of favoring a right-wing and anti-woman agenda, two of the most visible politicians connected to Opus Dei (Rt. Hon. Ruth Kelly MP. and Paola Binetti of Italy) are members of center-left parties and are women, reported Allen in 2006.
Outside of a Dan Brown Novel, Opus Dei is a conservative catholic organization but not the world controlling hell organization people make it out to be. I've met a few of them and they are morally rigid but otherwise nice people.
I said nothing about Dan Brown. Opus Dei's connections with anti-Communist elements are well-documented, most prominently in the case of FBI agent Robert Hanssen, who joined specifically because of his fervent anti-Communism. Which is ironic, when you consider that Hanssen later turned traitor to sell secrets to the Russians. (I'll also throw in this link from Mother Jones, because if you can use that Wikipedia page, most of which is sourced to Catholic apologist and historian John Allen, then I will not entertain an argument that my selection of sources is biased.)

Accordingly to you, saying unpleasant truths about the Roman Catholic Church is "anti-Catholic bigotry." It's more than a little similar to certain folks for whom any criticism of the policies of Israel is ipso facto anti-Semitic.
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And your insistence on conspiratorial connections when presented with contrary evidence is exactly like those who insist that forest fires are caused my Jewish space lasers, the world is run by the Jesuits, and also run by an organization of Jewish pedo vampires. It's actually in Opus Dei's charter to be apolitical, and individuals can take whatever position they want. So ya individuals can be anti-communist and can be Left wing as well.

No, there is no connection between Opus Dei and Falun Gong and saying there has to be just because "it's something that THOSE PEOPLE would do," is bigoted. If you look online you can read how Opus Dei controls Washington, controls the Vatican Bank, WILLIAM BARR IS A MEMBER, AAAGH it controls your butthole!

Note I have no idea if Barr is a member or not, I just saw hos name mentioned in a quick search, but I'm sure keyboards will be worn down with people saying "AHA PROFF OPUS DIE IS EVIL AND EATS BABYS like all Catlicks!"

A few years ago Opus Dei got sick of being lumped with every stupid conspiracy known to man and opened up to reporters to see what it was all about. and ya it was some weird diet stuff and wearing weird stuff under their clothing, and that's about it.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/sto ... Id=5029154
Vatican reporter John Allen's new book is Opus Dei: An Objective Look Behind the Myths and Reality of the Most Controversial Force in the Catholic Church. The book is being billed as the first serious journalistic investigation of the highly secretive organization. Allen writes for the National Catholic Reporter; he is also a Vatican analyst for CNN and NPR.

Read an excerpt from Opus Dei:
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/librar ... ryone-1400
Opus Dei Opens Its Doors to Everyone

Interview With the Vicar General of the Personal Prelature
So, ya, Dan Brown makes Opus Dei a villain and suddenly everyone is lumping every ill of Humanity into it. And anyone that says "hey wait a minute" is sneered at as unwilling to face the truth. Spoken like the Qtards Go figure.
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At the risk of annoying both parties can you agree to a cease fire before this thread is completely hijacked? I'm sure we can all agree on three facts: that there are individuals with self serving agendas somewhere in every organization from the church to the your local HOA; not everyone in these groups is a bad actor; and lastly that charters and bylaws etc are just ideas if no members choose to enforce them when they are betrayed by members. To bring the last point back to something relevant: when the GOP had control of the legislature they refused to act as a balance on the executive by holding one of their own accountable, the same possibility exist universally. Failing the ability to agree to just drop the issue as a difference of opinion in which neither party is likely to be swayed I'd suggest you continue your debate in private messages.
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Baidn wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:50 am At the risk of annoying both parties can you agree to a cease fire before this thread is completely hijacked? I'm sure we can all agree on three facts: that there are individuals with self serving agendas somewhere in every organization from the church to the your local HOA; not everyone in these groups is a bad actor; and lastly that charters and bylaws etc are just ideas if no members choose to enforce them when they are betrayed by members. To bring the last point back to something relevant: when the GOP had control of the legislature they refused to act as a balance on the executive by holding one of their own accountable, the same possibility exist universally. Failing the ability to agree to just drop the issue as a difference of opinion in which neither party is likely to be swayed I'd suggest you continue your debate in private messages.
I don't even know what this means, nor do I think my comments even implied such universal "all X are Y" categorizations. All I said was, "yes, there are extreme elements in the Catholic Church that might be open to an alliance of convenience with Falun Gong." For this, I was attacked as a bigot.

But I will respect the Rooster-in-Chief and cease fire.
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Has anyone noticed that the biggest allies of trump have started using various "we're not worth your time" defenses? The kraken lady is now saying that she was an obvious grifter and liar and no sane person could have possibly believed she was telling the truth about voter fraud; the defense team of the oath keepers is pointing out that they're all far too sad, pathetic and impotent to be a real threat to anyone (if I recall correctly they described one of their "elite" members as "a morbidly obese man with a bad back reliant on a mobility scooter and oxygen who has already had multiple heart attacks") I guess they've finally realized that old donny boy doesn't give two shots about anyone else outside of what he can squeeze from their limited incomes. The optimist in me is hoping this will lead to more of the keyboard warriors waking up to the fact they've been duped and slinking back to a more productive life with their tail between their legs. I doubt the world at large is that lucky but at least it's entertaining in the meantime to see them forced to try the "we are but wooooooorms!" defense
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Totally Baidn, they didn't know what they were doing, they're just misunderstood. #LockThemUp.

And these dumb losers will try anything... these donations should certainly help prosecutors see that DL2XIT was a vital part of the insurrection, they were giving him money.
Capitol riot suspects ramped up donations to Trump after his election defeat
An NBC News analysis of Federal Election Commission filings found that people alleged to be rioters upped their contributions after Election Day.
March 24, 2021, 8:02 AM UTC By Allan Smith

After President Donald Trump lost his re-election campaign, he immediately began asking his supporters for money, a plea that he insisted was necessary to bankroll his fight built on the false claim that the election was stolen through rampant fraud. James Uptmore, like hundreds of other people, opened his wallet. Weeks later, he was among those who stormed the U.S. Capitol, federal prosecutors say. An NBC News analysis of campaign finance filings found that in the five weeks after the election, those charged in the Capitol riot increased their political donations by about 75 percent compared to the five weeks leading up to the election. Many had made very few or no donations at all in previous years, but they began escalating their numbers of contributions as Trump was trying to overturn Joe Biden's victory. Trump and his aligned groups, including the Republican National Committee, raised $207.5 million in the 19 days after the election. Uptmore, 63, of San Antonio, made just a single $250 donation to a Trump PAC between Trump's first run for president and the 2020 election, according to the Federal Election Commission. That all changed in the weeks after the Nov. 3 election.

On Nov. 15, the day Trump wrote on Twitter that he would not concede, Uptmore made five contributions to the president and his aligned groups. Three days later, when Trump tweeted, "I WON THE ELECTION. VOTER FRAUD ALL OVER THE COUNTRY," Uptmore made four more donations. The next day, Uptmore made four more donations as Trump's attorneys held a news conference spreading wild conspiracies about the vote. And on Dec. 18 — when Trump tweeted at Republican senators to "FIGHT FOR IT. Don't let them take it away!" — Uptmore made six such contributions. In total, Uptmore would make nearly 40 donations to Trump, the RNC and aligned groups after Trump's loss. And on Jan. 6, federal prosecutors allege, he and his son, Chance, were among the crowd that illegally breached the Capitol. "I think, quite simply, it shows the effectiveness of Trump's messaging in the weeks leading up to the election and then how much his stolen election lie resonated with his base after the election," said Kurt Braddock, an assistant professor of public communication at American University and a fellow at its Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab. "Trump sold the idea to his followers that not only was the election stolen, but also that it was up to his constituents to help make things 'right.'"

John Horgan, who runs the Violent Extremism Research Group at Georgia State University, said he found the increase in contributions to be "unsurprising," partly because Trump had primed supporters for months. "Trump successfully convinced many of his followers that unless they acted, and acted fast, their very way of life was about to come to an end," Horgan said. "He presented a catastrophic scenario whereby if the election was — for him — lost, his followers would suffer as a result. He made action not just imperative, but urgent, convincing his followers that they needed to do everything they could now, rather than later, to prevent the 'enemy' from claiming victory." Among the first 311 people who face federal charges after the Jan. 6 riot, about 90 have histories of making political contributions. And the overwhelming majority of them were made to Trump or his aligned groups and within the past year. The donations shed light on the political activities and leanings of the people accused in the riot — and on the effectiveness of Trump's post-election messaging, which has netted him hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions, many from small-dollar donors like those accused of storming the Capitol.

Elizabeth Neumann, who was assistant secretary of homeland security for counterterrorism and threat prevention before she left the Trump administration and endorsed Biden, said the donor findings reveal "a useful proof point to the argument that there were monetary drivers behind the Big Lie." "It's also a useful quantitative metric for demonstrating the increased level of grievance of Trump supporters post-election," she said. Neumann said she believes a donor's history could be useful to the Justice Department should it seek to make "a seditious conspiracy or incitement-to-violence case." "It shows a direct tie between the lies that the election was stolen and people's deepening passion for Trump — they were seeing the money roll in and knew that the messaging was working," she said. Some of those charged in connection with the riot made their first political contributions after the election, donating to Trump, the RNC or groups like the Trump Make America Great Again Committee. Several more made their first donations to political causes and candidates during the 2020 campaign cycle. "I think the thing that's clear is that the people who took over the Capitol are not interested in the political process," Eric Wilson, a Republican political technologist, said in an interview, pointing to analysis that showed that some people accused in the riot did not vote in the election. "They donated to campaigns after the votes had already been cast," revealing that "they are only interested in the chaos, not the process," he said.

More than 50 politicians, political action committees and other groups and causes received donations from those charged in the riot. They include Republicans like former Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler of Georgia; House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California; Sens. Steve Daines of Montana, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Susan Collins of Maine; Reps. Burgess Owens of Utah and Elise Stefanik of New York; failed candidates like Kim Klacik, a House candidate in Maryland, Joe Collins, a House candidate in California, and Kris Kobach, a Senate candidate in Kansas; the National Republican Senatorial Committee; and the National Republican Congressional Committee. The bulk of the donations went to Trump and his aligned groups — about 75 percent of the more than 900 such donations funneled there. "Part of this, there's this very cynical view that this was just a total cash cow for people to fundraise off of vulnerable folks," Thomas Zeitzoff, an associate professor of political science at American University who studies political violence, said in an interview. Yet a number of Republicans have claimed that the riot was not the product of a pro-Trump mob. They say it was driven by left-wing groups trying to damage Trump — which a majority of Trump voters believe, according to a Suffolk University/USA Today poll last month.

Some Democrats also got donations from people alleged to have been rioters, including a handful of years-old contributions to former President Barack Obama and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., and more recent contributions to Democratic presidential candidates Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard, who had followings on the political right. A man charged in the riot, Brian McCreary, who was photographed inside the Capitol alongside the "QAnon Shaman," Jacob Chansley, made 34 donations to Yang from 2018 through 2020. Wilson, the Republican digital strategist, chalked up the riot to people who were gullible. "I don't know that there's a bigger story to tell other than there are a lot of dumb people in the world," he said. "And a lot of them stormed the Capitol on January 6th."
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Over $178,000 raised from the marks but it's not enough.
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Hopeium is a hell of a drug....
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Those DL2XIT supporters are totally wound up, they haven't had time to process their loss of the House, Senate and White House and continue being filled with blind rage. This afternoon, posted a fairly innocuous comment about migration in reply to a snarky comment by dopey Charlie Spiering:
Charlie Spiering @charliespiering 7h
Full quote from Harris spokesperson Symone Sanders:

"I will just reiterate that the @VP is not doing the border. The president asked the vice president to take on the diplomatic efforts with Mexico and countries of the North Triangle to address the root causes of migration."

OrlyLicious @Orly_licious 6h

That's terrific, thanks for the update. It's wonderful the Biden Administration is getting back to the root causes of the migration issue; when people in their home countries have hope, it's proven they prefer staying. It was a dark 4 years, but America is moving forward again.
And like I care, they went absolutely bonkers! They were so excited to "ratio" the tweet, post vile silly memes and factually incorrect replies. Just nutz. Took the opportunity to give them some facts... while the DL2XIT supporters couldn't/wouldn't understand, got some nice compliments.














Even Catturd got in on it :lol:





Thanked them and reminded them to pace themselves, 1,395 more days at least of President Biden. All in all, enjoyable. And over 14,000 impressions :thumbsup: Think they are a little touchy? :lol:

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You're a happy warrior, my friend. Loved reading those. :lovestruck:
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Orlylicious, I am jealous of your ability to patiently engage with these people who deliberately maintain their own ignorance. I especially got a kick out of the one who complained that we care about assisting other countries in solving their problems (which become our problems) and then complain that it's America last. So, he wants us to exacerbate the problems in other countries, which causes people to flood to the southern US border, which he (or she) complains about. And then when told that we are helping other countries help themselves so their citizens aren't flooding to our border, and (s)he doesn't approve of that either. Sounds like a typical chronic complainer. No matter how many solutions are offered, there is still a perpetual problem. I have no patience with those people. Your patience is admirable.
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Re: DL2XIT Supporters Lost Their Minds - Insurrection! #StopTheSteal Ali Alexander Brandon Straka

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Thanks RV, didn't plan that comment to really be controversial, they blew it up out of proportion. And since DL2XIT has been banished, don't care what they say, what they think or how they say it, they are dead-end losers. But try to keep it civil, no point in rolling in the gutter with them. It's a laugh to reply to them in a way that will piss them off but isn't anywhere near the hostile, nasty way they talk... try to figure out how to do it and that's amusing to me, it's like a little game. For folks who call Democrats snowflakes, they are the thinnest skin, Twitter-blocking group of crybabies ever. And it's delicious. 8-)

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Meanwhile... Kate's friend in Beverly Hills :lol: Long story from the Beverly Hills Courier:
Beverly Hills Salon Owner Recounts Her Actions in D.C. Riot
“I was caught up, I was scared, I was excited,” Bisignano told the Courier.
BY SAM BRASLOW JANUARY 14, 2021

Beverly Hills Salon Owner Recounts Her Actions in D.C. Riot


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Gina Bisignano (left) in Washington D.C.

Videos and images have surfaced showing a local Beverly Hills business owner at the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. A video posted on social media shows Gina Bisignano, owner of Gina’s Eyelashes and Skincare and a regular at the Beverly Hills Freedom Rally, exiting the Capitol building through a broken window and apparently encouraging people to enter the building. The events of the day left five people dead, including a member of law enforcement, and left a host of questions in its wake, including: How did a Beverly Hills esthetician with celebrity clients end up at a violent incurson of the nation’s Capitol?

After more than two hours of interviews with Bisignano this week, the Courier has tried to piece together the answers. “Be there, will be wild!” President Donald Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, urging his followers to come to the nation’s capital on Jan. 6. Bisignano, like thousands of the President’s most devoted supporters, heard the call. She grappled with whether to go before pulling the trigger two weeks before the day, ponying up $1,000 on airfare and a hotel. She said she felt called upon by Trump to travel to D.C. to change the outcome of the election, which she believes was stolen. “Trump said, patriots, go to D.C.,” she told the Courier. “If enough patriots got together to rightfully assemble and put pressure, chant and cheer like we do, they would think, ‘Okay, we the people—we the people are speaking.’”

Before the last few months, Bisignano was best known for her meticulous brow work and voluminous, natural-appearing eyelash extensions.* Her Yelp reviews, devoted clientele, and busy schedule attest to a deft touch cultivated over decades in the beauty trade. “Gina is not only a sweetheart and your friend, but she is an expert!” one reviewer wrote in 2015. But since 2016, Bisignano became increasingly concerned with things she saw on the internet—allegations of a nefarious, global web of child molesters and pedophiles in the highest echelons of government and elite society. The claims struck close to one of her greatest concerns, abortion, a practice she abhors as a Christian. As election season progressed and the country became ensnared in COVID-19, Bisignano would join fellow Trump supporters in the streets of Beverly Hills nearly every Saturday to call for an end to pandemic related restrictions, the reelection of President Trump, and the exposure of the Deep State that opposed him.

She experienced a new form of notoriety in December after a “reopen L.A.” protest at the home of County Department of Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer. There, a neighbor captured her repeatedly using a homophobic slur in a video that subsequently went viral, getting picked up by TMZ and other outlets. She later apologized for the language, but by that point, people had discovered her Yelp page and labeled her a “Karen.” Finding support among the community of self-described fellow patriots, many of whom had connected and bonded at the Freedom Rally, she continued to demonstrate for Trump and then against the election results. So, along with at least one other regular from the Freedom Rally, Bisignano went to Washington.

In D.C. on Jan. 6, Bisignano woke up at 7 a.m., put on her Chanel boots and a Louis Vuitton sweater, and left to hear speeches from some of her favorite political figures—the nouveau célèbre brought in by Trump’s anti-establishment wave. Before the headline speaker, the President himself, she got separated from her group, who told her they planned to “storm the Capitol.” “I said, ‘Don’t you want to do Trump’s speech?’ And they go, ‘No, we’re going to the Capitol now.’ So, I separated and went to Trump’s speech,” she said. “And I’m like, I didn’t know we were storming the Capitol. I should have dressed different.”
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After people began commenting on Bisignano’s Yelp page with photos of her in D.C. and even a link to submit tips to the FBI, she decided to call the FBI proactively. “She couldn’t do my lashes last week because she was too busy being a white supremacist terrorist at the insurrection attempt on 1/6/21,” one recent comment reads. “I was being portrayed on Yelp as a terrorist,” she said. “I wanted to clear my name. Everyone in Beverly Hills knows I’m not—I am a Christian.” Bisignano said she called the FBI on the morning of Jan. 12, but was placed on hold and had to go to work before she spoke with anyone. She has grown increasingly worried about legal ramifications and personal danger, at first insisting she had nothing to worry about because “I didn’t do anything,” to worrying that she could serve time. Already, Bisignano said that she is receiving threatening phone calls. “My life is over, I’m going to jail,” she said in tears. “I’m going to lose my son.”
Lots, lots more at https://beverlyhillscourier.com/2021/01 ... -d-c-riot/

* Kate, did your friend Gina do work on Orly Taitz? :P


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Suranis wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:24 pm
Baidn wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:14 am It's personally amusing to me to think of Rush Limbaugh and other RWNJ con artist finding out God is nonbinary just before being flushed down to hell.
God does not have a Gender because God is not Human. You might as well talk about Light having a Gender. In fact many Christian Mystics talk about their sense of God's Presence changing from male to female and back.
Are you referring to the Trinity consisting of the Parent, Child and Holy Spirit? Somehow a genderless Trinity doesn't make it for me. And I'm an atheist.
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sterngard friegen wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:09 pm
Suranis wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:24 pm
Baidn wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:14 am It's personally amusing to me to think of Rush Limbaugh and other RWNJ con artist finding out God is nonbinary just before being flushed down to hell.
God does not have a Gender because God is not Human. You might as well talk about Light having a Gender. In fact many Christian Mystics talk about their sense of God's Presence changing from male to female and back.
Are you referring to the Trinity consisting of the Parent, Child and Holy Spirit? Somehow a genderless Trinity doesn't make it for me. And I'm an atheist.
I thought man was made in God's image. Is that not quite correct?
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The founder of the group that co-sponsored the rally, Virginia Women for Trump, told CNN that she hasn't been interviewed by the FBI. An employee at Women for America First, a separate organization that held the rally near the White House with Trump one day later, told CNN that nobody at the organization had been interviewed by the FBI either.

Through their right-wing organization, Taylor and Hostetter secured speaking slots at the rally, and used their speeches to spew violent, battle-ready rhetoric.Weeks earlier, they reached out to Virginia Women for Trump, which was planning an event at the Supreme Court on January 5, one day before Congress would tally the electoral votes and put the final nail in the coffin of Trump's effort to overturn his loss.

Alice Butler-Short, founder of Virginia Women for Trump, said she primarily organized the rally and invited the speakers, but Taylor and Hostetter helped pay for the logistics and security. "They kind of found me on Facebook," Butler-Short said in an interview with CNN.

The lineup of speakers also included the far-right conspiracy theorist Ali Alexander, who ran a "Stop the Steal" group, and Trump ally Roger Stone, who supports the Proud Boys extremist group. They pushed the debunked conspiracy theory that the election was stolen from Trump. Though Stone said, "We renounce violence," Hostetter ratcheted things up is his speech.
https://www.abc57.com/news/fbi-raids-ho ... tol-attack


Here's Alice and Squidney:






According to Jack Posobiec and others, Alice Butler-Short is dead. At least she doesn't have to panic about immigration any more.





Corey Stewart tells a heartwarming story of how Alice fell down a flight of concrete stairs at the RNC 2016*.





Wikipedia:
Alice Butler-Short (née Butler, born 1943[1], died 30 March 2021) was born in Cahir, County Tipperary, Ireland.[2] She lived in Lorton, Virginia and was a U.S. citizen.[3] She described herself as "a product of a great Catholic family and a great Irish education".[4] Butler-Short moved to London when she was 18 and met her first husband there. He was Chinese, and they moved to Hong Kong, living together for 13 years. The family had to leave Hong Kong for political reasons and moved to Canada. She met her current spouse, a U.S. Army colonel, in Canada following her husband's death. They moved to the U.S. in 1983, and she accompanied him overseas before returning to the U.S. in 1993.[1]

Butler-Short said she became politically active as soon as she was able to vote, and always voted Republican since the days of President George H.W. Bush. She believed that the United States is currently on the verge of downfall because of the Democrats, who she believed "want to move our great country to socialism", and that she was a Republican activist because she believed it would lead to a better future for her children.[1] Butler-Short was a "passionate" supporter of Trump since February 2015, when she saw him at the Conservative Political Action Conference. She founded Virginia Women for Trump in October 2015 "to debunk the myth that women did not like Trump".[5] She also helped other states set up their own Women for Trump chapters.[6]
* And in a wheelchair the next day, was holding a Trump sign.
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