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anyone that kills a beautiful elephant can kiss my ass and I hope someone shoots them and cuts off their "tail"


assholes :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Fuck them all.
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Get in line - behind the elephants
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I have tried and failed to find one redeeming factor in performing these acts of murder. :mad:
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Uninformed wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:55 pm I have tried and failed to find one redeeming factor in performing these acts of murder. :mad:
There are none.
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pipistrelle wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:12 pm
Uninformed wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:55 pm I have tried and failed to find one redeeming factor in performing these acts of murder. :mad:
There are none.
Yup.
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Uninformed wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:14 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:12 pm
Uninformed wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:55 pm I have tried and failed to find one redeeming factor in performing these acts of murder. :mad:
There are none.
Yup.
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:yeahthat:
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Killing for sport is uniquely nauseating. These people are dead inside.
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RVInit wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:55 am Killing for sport is uniquely nauseating. These people are dead inside.
Its not sport. Sport implies an honest competition.

You want sport? Go bear hunting with a Bowie knife.
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I have no problem hunting for food as long as the animal population is sufficient for that purpose (rabbit, squirrel, deer).

Big game hunting is NOT hunting for food. In fact, I think a bigger challenge would be to actually photograph those animals in their native environments. I'd rather have photos I had taken of big game adorning my walls rather than trophies of a slain animal hanging on a wall. What, exactly, do you do with an elephant's tail? (Rhetorical. I really don't want to know.)
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:34 am I have no problem hunting for food as long as the animal population is sufficient for that purpose (rabbit, squirrel, deer).

Big game hunting is NOT hunting for food. In fact, I think a bigger challenge would be to actually photograph those animals in their native environments. I'd rather have photos I had taken of big game adorning my walls rather than trophies of a slain animal hanging on a wall. What, exactly, do you do with an elephant's tail? (Rhetorical. I really don't want to know.)
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I agree about hunting for food.

I'm an amateur photographer and an animal lover. I've always thought that, if I won the lottery, I would like to go on a photo safari, armed with nothing more than a telephoto lens.
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noblepa wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:47 am
MN-Skeptic wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:34 am I have no problem hunting for food as long as the animal population is sufficient for that purpose (rabbit, squirrel, deer).

Big game hunting is NOT hunting for food. In fact, I think a bigger challenge would be to actually photograph those animals in their native environments. I'd rather have photos I had taken of big game adorning my walls rather than trophies of a slain animal hanging on a wall. What, exactly, do you do with an elephant's tail? (Rhetorical. I really don't want to know.)
:yeahthat:

I agree about hunting for food.

I'm an amateur photographer and an animal lover. I've always thought that, if I won the lottery, I would like to go on a photo safari, armed with nothing more than a telephoto lens.
And a camera body. :P
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noblepa wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:47 am
MN-Skeptic wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:34 am I have no problem hunting for food as long as the animal population is sufficient for that purpose (rabbit, squirrel, deer).

Big game hunting is NOT hunting for food. In fact, I think a bigger challenge would be to actually photograph those animals in their native environments. I'd rather have photos I had taken of big game adorning my walls rather than trophies of a slain animal hanging on a wall. What, exactly, do you do with an elephant's tail? (Rhetorical. I really don't want to know.)
:yeahthat:

I agree about hunting for food.

I'm an amateur photographer and an animal lover. I've always thought that, if I won the lottery, I would like to go on a photo safari, armed with nothing more than a telephoto lens.
Even though I lived in the northland, I did not hunt nor do I want to shoot a deer (I did get a doe on opening day but that was with my truck). However, I do not have an issue with it and understand it is basically necessary right now in order to keep the population in check due to fewer predators (safety of others and avoid disease). Venison is quite good too. I do heavily dislike those who shoot deer and others just to shoot them. If you are not going to do it for the meat and other purposes, than it is just killing for fun.

It was a bit amusing to watch the reaction of some fudgies (tourists) and other newbies who would be up north the week of November 15. The whole deer pole thing was a bit much for some of them.
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ABC [AP]: Judge dismisses NRA bankruptcy case in blow to gun group:
A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed the National Rifle Association's bankruptcy case, leaving the powerful gun-rights group to face a New York state lawsuit accusing the NRA of financial abuses and that aims to put it out of business.

The case was over whether the NRA should be allowed to incorporate in Texas instead of New York, where the state is suing in an effort to disband the group. Though headquartered in Virginia, the NRA was chartered as a nonprofit in New York in 1871 and is incorporated in the state.

Judge Harlin Hale said he was dismissing the case because he found the bankruptcy was not filed in good faith.

His decision followed 11 days of testimony and arguments. Lawyers for New York and the NRA's former advertising agency grilled the group's embattled top executive, Wayne LaPierre, who acknowledged putting the NRA into Chapter 11 bankruptcy without the knowledge or assent of most of its board and other top officers.
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Good!
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The judge double dared them to refile it.

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Nice work Judge!

Lift that straight to the headlines.. :)
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I mean, this was about the clearest example of a bad faith bankruptcy petition as one is likely to see. If the judge hadn't dismissed, it would have set a horrible precedent that bankruptcy courts are willing to let themselves become a vehicle for escaping regulatory problems.

Something tells me that Wayne LaPierre would sooner hang himself than put a trustee or a receiver in charge of the NRA.
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fierceredpanda wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:50 pm
Something tells me that Wayne LaPierre would sooner hang himself than put a trustee or a receiver in charge of the NRA.
I could live with that ;)

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Why didn't LaPierre just bribe the judge? :smoking:
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If the NY AG follows through on her threat to dissolve the NY non-profit corporation that is the NRA, what happens to their assets? They're a non-profit, so they have no stockholders to receive the assets.

Does the state of NY confiscate them?

What would stop LaPierre from starting, say, The American Rifle Association, in Texas? Then, if/when NY dissolves the NRA, could he somehow transfer the NRA's assets to the new group (one non-profit making a donation to another)?
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From the Complaint:

“PRAYER FOR RELIEF
WHEREFORE, the Attorney General requests judgment against the defendants for the following relief:
A. Dissolving the NRA and directing that its remaining assets and any future assets be
applied to charitable uses consistent with the mission set forth in the NRA's certificate of incorporation pursuant to N-PCL §§ 112(a)(1), 112(a)(5), 112(a)(7), 1101(a)(2), 1102(a)(2)(D) and 1109.”

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/s ... aint_1.pdf
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noblepa wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 9:32 am If the NY AG follows through on her threat to dissolve the NY non-profit corporation that is the NRA, what happens to their assets? They're a non-profit, so they have no stockholders to receive the assets.
Another related ponderance.. what happens to the insurance deals? One of the things that make the NRA so powerful and ubiquitous is that it is difficult to run a range without NRA associated insurance policies.
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I would like to see them split the NRA Foundation off so they can continue the education and safety programs (they may need to attach a non-charity non-profit org for certain aspects of this). This would basically return part of the organization back to their original focus which was lost when the board was taken over by the gun worship crowd in the 70s.
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