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Coronavirus One Year, And More, Later

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Student loan repayment pause has been extended.
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Big news: The Biden Admin just extended the student loan repayment pause through January 31, 2022.

This is the *final* extension, White House says.

People will not have to pay their students loan principal, interest or collections on gov’t education loans until Feb. 2022.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/unvaccinat ... 1628276064
Unvaccinated people are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with Covid-19 than people who are fully vaccinated, a new study suggests, underscoring the importance of vaccines in containing the pandemic.

The study, published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, looked at nearly 250 patients in Kentucky who had Covid-19 in 2020 and tested positive again between May and June 2021. The authors compared the vaccination status of those patients with those of nearly 500 similar people who also had an infection in 2020 but hadn’t been reinfected through June 2021.

People who were unvaccinated were 2.34 times more likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated, the researchers found.

“If you decide you’re just going to trust that natural immunity is going to protect you, you’re more than twice as likely to get infected as those people who decide to get vaccinated,” said Daniel Griffin, chief of infectious disease at healthcare provider network ProHealth New York, who wasn’t involved in the study.



Tweaked the title a little.
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Republicans treated Covid like a bioweapon. Then it turned against them
Rebecca Solnit

Some of the most powerful conservatives in the United States have, since the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, chosen to sow disinformation along with mockery and distrust of proven methods of combating the disease, from masks to vaccines to social distancing. Their actions have afflicted the nation as a whole with more disease and death and economic crisis than good leadership aligned with science might have, and, in spite of hundreds of thousands of well-documented deaths and a new surge, they continue. Their malice has become so normal that its real nature is rarely addressed. Call it biological warfare by propaganda.

Call Jared Kushner the spiritual heir of the army besieging the city of Caffa on the Black Sea in 1346, which, according to a contemporaneous account, catapulted plague-infected corpses over the city walls. This is sometimes said to be how the Black Death came to Europe, where it would kill tens of millions of people – a third of the European population – over the next 15 years. A Business Insider article from a year ago noted: “Kushner’s coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors.” An administration more committed to saving lives than scoring points could have contained the pandemic rather than made the US the worst-hit nation in the world. Illnesses and casualties could have been far lower, and we could have been better protected against the Delta variant.

At the outset of the pandemic, as Seattle and New York City became hard hit, Republicans apparently imagined that the pandemic would strike Democratic states and cities first, and certainly in 2020 Black, Latinx and indigenous people were disproportionately affected. To put it clearly, Republicans enabled a campaign of mass death and disablement, thinking it would be primarily mean death and illness for those they regarded as opponents.

Nevertheless, Democratic governors, Native nations and people with moderate-to-leftwing views have done a better job of protecting against this scourge. The worst-hit areas in the country are now Republican-led states and regions. At one point recently, Florida under raging science denier Governor Ron DeSantis, with about 7.5% of the US population, accounted for 20% of all new Covid cases. The governors of Florida and Texas have banned mask mandates, making attempts to protect public health, including that of children, acts of defiance by cities and school districts. DeSantis’s supporters are peddling “Don’t Fauci My Florida” T-shirts and drink coolers with the text “How the hell am I going to drink a beer with a mask on?” On 27 July, as Delta infections proliferated, House minority leader Kevin McCarthy tweeted, “Make no mistake – The threat of bringing masks back is not a decision based on science, but a decision conjured up by liberal government officials who want to continue to live in a perpetual pandemic state.”
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It’s frustrating and infuriating to realize how different things would be if we had had a POTUS who wasn’t so concerned about his ‘image’. By DFO’s worrying that he might not look presidential if he wore a mask and conveying that repeatedly, he managed to convince a yuuuuge number of people to not wear one as well.

He WAS vaccinated however, and I’ve yet to hear an understandable explanation as to why that message didn’t resonate with his cult. The whole thing is maddening! :smokeears:
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Sunrise wrote: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:02 pm It’s frustrating and infuriating to realize how different things would be if we had had a POTUS who wasn’t so concerned about his ‘image’. By DFO’s worrying that he might not look presidential if he wore a mask and conveying that repeatedly, he managed to convince a yuuuuge number of people to not wear one as well.

He WAS vaccinated however, and I’ve yet to hear an understandable explanation as to why that message didn’t resonate with his cult. The whole thing is maddening! :smokeears:
One explanation circling on the right is that he only said he got vaccinated to fool the left into taking more vaccines, because he knew it would kill them, but his supporters knew were in on the plot, so they were smart and didn't get vaccinated.

I kid you not.

I suspect many others simply think TFG "had to say that" but since it's obvious by all the rest of his actions and words that he didn't mean it, they just ignore it. TFG's lies have always been accepted by the RW.
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Things are getting bad in Texas.
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A new hope?
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These are the 1st two Tweets of a long thread listing recent pediatric Covid cases and deaths.

I greatly fear what's coming as the schools open.
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Volkonski wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:23 am https:// twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1424370084248760320?s=19

A new hope?
FDA authorizes Covid antibody treatment as preventive after exposure
The unvaccinated or people with weak immune systems at high risk of severe disease can receive an injection if exposed to an infected person.

Aug. 2, 2021, 10:23 PM CEST / Updated Aug. 3, 2021, 3:40 PM CEST
By Benjamin Ryan

People at considerable risk of developing severe Covid-19, including millions of Americans with compromised immune systems, now have the option of receiving a preventive monoclonal antibody treatment if they have been or are at risk of being exposed to the coronavirus.

The Food and Drug Administration’s action on Friday brings hope to the estimated 3 percent of Americans who are immunocompromised, including those with autoimmune diseases, HIV patients, cancer patients and organ transplant recipients, who may still be vulnerable to Covid even after being fully vaccinated.

This is the first time an injectable coronavirus antibody treatment has been approved for use as a prevention of Covid after someone has been exposed to the virus.

Dr. Myron Cohen, a leading coronavirus antibody researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and one of the investigators behind the study of REGEN-COV as prevention, said that monoclonal antibodies protect against severe illness by overwhelming the coronavirus infection while it is still mostly in the nose and throat.

“It’s a race between your ability to make an antibody to protect your lungs and the rest of your body and the virus,” he said. “And if you’re likely to lose the race, you’re the person for whom these antibody drugs are appropriate.”

However, the FDA said in its statement issuing the emergency expanded authorization that monoclonal antibodies should not be considered a vaccination substitute. The agency urged all who are eligible to get vaccinated.
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Things not so great in Oklahoma.
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We’re able to do field surgery in wartime. We should be able to come up with more mobile COVID wards, yes?
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Volkonski wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:30 pm https:// twitter.com/ChrisKPolansky/status/1424405290636677124
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Our CNO came in and worked like a beehive to get us FOUR ICU beds at competitor's hospitals. This took some pressure off; we had 17 ICU holds in the ED at the time. Ambulance holds stacked in the back hallway. I'm nearly out of ventilators. Get everyone you know vaccinated.
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Things not so great in Oklahoma.
... and remember it takes anout four to five days to get the initial effect from the jab and it takes about two weeks to get significant protection.
... and remember you may need a second jab four weeks after the first to get the promised full protection with its own continued buildup.
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Volkonski wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:34 pm
Not quite the same, but there are also a lot of small businesses around Sturgis that rely on a once a year event to stay afloat.
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somerset wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:41 pm
Volkonski wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 3:34 pm
Not quite the same, but there are also a lot of small businesses around Sturgis that rely on a once a year event to stay afloat.
Not sure what Sturgis has to do with NOLA, but I doubt the entire state of SD is depending on the 20 million visitors and $10 billion in visitor spending. I have no idea what the point of the original tweet was, either. All of the NOLA festivals are being cancelled, not just JF.
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So we fucked around and are now finding out.
Second verse, same as the first.

I gotta wonder what the vax stats are at Sturgis. I'm pretty sure asking the attendees won't give a reliable result.
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My point was only that many of these big once-a-year events have an economic ecosystem around them that suffers greatly when the event gets shut down. I remember last year when Gilby Clarke* posted that he was going to attend Sturgis, wearing a mask, because so many of the local businesses depended on it to survive and he's something of a celebrity to that event. My comment wasn't intended to justify the gathering of the stupid at Sturgis, but to agree with Morgan Chesky about the collateral damage local to local businesses.


*He and I used to work together at a rock club, so I keep up with him a little bit
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somerset wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:22 pm My point was only that many of these big once-a-year events have an economic ecosystem around them that suffers greatly when the event gets shut down. I remember last year when Gilby Clarke* posted that he was going to attend Sturgis, wearing a mask, because so many of the local businesses depended on it to survive and he's something of a celebrity to that event. My comment wasn't intended to justify the gathering of the stupid at Sturgis, but to agree with Morgan Chesky about the collateral damage local to local businesses.


*He and I used to work together at a rock club, so I keep up with him a little bit
Ah, the original tweet makes more sense now. In NOLA, it's not exactly a "once a year big event" but more like a big event every weekend that draws tens of thousands to the city on a constant basis. Voodoo, JF, Essence, FGF and a hundred others are canceled, with more to come.
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