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We should all have "I Did Not See That Coming" chiseled on our tombstones now and be done with it.
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Uninformed wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:38 am Having followed the news, particularly the last few weeks, I have been dismayed by the emerging evidence that businesses have been just as inept as the government in identifying and mitigating the consequences of this farce. :mad:
From my observation the businesses believed long into 2020 the promise of Boris Johnson that the UK would remain a part, an associate, of the common market. Especially the local businesses without own import/export activities with the EU, did not expect any ramifications of a Brexit. Now they expierience the downsream effects of the wholesalers stuck in the muck. And all the missing staff from the EU thanks to the fresh UK immigration policies and crazy work permit requirements.
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No turkeys for Christmas?
Food industry supply chain chaos result of Brexit, British poultry association says
The comments came after Nando's announced that 45 of its restaurants would temporarily shut due to supply chain disruptions and KFC said some of its products would not be available.

By Ed Clowes, Business reporter
Thursday 19 August 2021 07:01, UK

The boss of Britain's poultry industry body has called on the government to fast track workers as the sector faces severe disruptions that have forced restaurants including Nando's and KFC to adjust or cancel their service.

Richard Griffiths, chief executive of the British Poultry Council, also blamed worker shortages following Brexit for the issues the industry is currently facing.

Sky News understands that the group has contacted the Home Office about the issue, but has yet to receive a response.

A spokesperson for one of Britain's biggest poultry producers said that the company was not experiencing any inconvenience due to the so-called 'pingdemic'.

"When you don't have people, you have a problem - and this is something we are seeing across the whole supply chain. The labour crisis is a Brexit issue," Mr Griffiths said.

The problems had been widely reported across multiple sectors, he added.

The poultry industry is responsible for producing half of all the meat eaten in the UK. Currently, the sector is reporting vacancies of over 16%, Mr Griffiths said.

"The alarming number of gaps only continue to grow due to a government that continually acts against the best interests of British food producers," he said.


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The great quote I love to hear over and over

Donald Tusk, European Council President, February 2019

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‘Brexit or Covid – what’s worse?’: UK coastal towns in perfect employment storm
There are plenty of tourists, but UK hospitality firms are plagued by labour shortages this summer

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Sat 21 Aug 2021 09.00 BST

For Lynton, a small village perched on a picturesque hill overlooking the north Devon coast, this year’s summer tourist season has been exceptional. Holidaymakers from all over the UK have descended in huge numbers, arriving by coach, by car and on foot.

The scenes are perhaps unsurprising, given how many households have decided against international travel this year when faced with the expense and uncertainty of Covid rules. In July, the Resolution Foundation thinktank estimated that an extra £30.5bn and 300,000 jobs would be injected into British travel and hospitality sectors if tourists across Europe switched foreign holidays for domestic ones – with Devon one of the biggest recipients of this shift.

The experience of Ronnie Moughton, who runs a small Middle Eastern restaurant and coffee shop in Lynton with his wife, Daria, matches that prediction. He says it has been the busiest season in their 15 years of running the business. “Every day this summer, we’ve had to turn people away – some of them yearly return visitors, sadly.”

But there has been a catch – finding the staff to meet such soaring demand. A shortage of available labour has meant their 40-seater restaurant is now running at half capacity. “European workers who have permission to work in the UK are not coming because of the lengthy paperwork after Brexit. They’re also watching how the Covid situation evolves in England,” Moughton says.

These days, the couple’s friends often joke about them being “visibly stressed” by having to do everything themselves. Yet, they regard themselves as lucky after Moughton finally managed to hire a chef from Romania with pre-settled status, using an agency.

He paid for the recruit’s requisite PCR test on the second day of quarantine, but it took 72 hours for the result to eventually arrive. Moughton adds: “I don’t even know what to blame: Brexit or Covid – what is worse?”

There are about 200,000 vacancies in the sector, a vacancy rate of about 10%, according to the trade association UKHospitality. After being on furlough for months last year, many of these workers moved to other industries that have remained open and busy.



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Prisoners to plug worker shortage in meat industry
By Michael Race
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Abattoirs, butchers and meat processors are set to employ prisoners and ex-inmates to help plug labour shortages.

Meat industry leaders held talks with the government on Monday to discuss options of how businesses could link up with prisons to fill vacancies.

The Association of Independent Meat Suppliers told the BBC the industry had about 14,000 job vacancies currently.

It said Covid, Brexit and perceptions over career paths had caused a looming "recruitment crisis".

The industry body said businesses would seek to link up with prisons that contain prisoners who are part of the Release On Temporary Licence (ROTL) programme.

ROTL is a risk-assessed temporary release programme that inmates in open prisons use to gain work experience to help them in their transition back into the community.



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Restaurants are now recruiting PRISONERS to ease worker shortages caused by Brexit and pandemic
  • Shelves left empty in recent weeks due to lack of drivers, fruit pickers and more
    Businesses hope to fill gap in vacancies with prisoners via a placement scheme
    Situation likely to get worse when schools and offices re-open in September
By LAURENCE DOLLIMORE FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 02:18 BST, 22 August 2021 | UPDATED: 08:26 BST, 22 August 2021

A 'desperate' shortage of supply chain workers has forced food manufacturers and restaurants to try and recruit prisoners to fill the void.

Recent weeks have seen supermarket shelves across the country left empty as a double whammy of the so-called pingdemic and Brexit has seen a drastic drop in HGV drivers, fruit pickers and factory workers.

Businesses are now desperately attempting to fill the vacancies via a scheme which allows prisoners to undertake paid work on day release - with one lockup having run out of inmates to offer due to the surge in demand.

It comes after prisoners took part in 58,752 days of work-related release between October 2020 and March this year.




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UK food firms beg ministers to let them use prisoners to ease labour shortages
Meat processors and others say they must have more day release workers as they cannot find enough staff

Zoe Wood Consumer affairs correspondent
Mon 23 Aug 2021 06.00 BST

Desperate food manufacturers are pleading with the government to be able to call upon prisoners to solve a labour crisis blamed on the double blow of Brexit and Covid.

The Association of Independent Meat Suppliers, which represents butchers, abattoirs and processors, said it had a call set up with the Ministry of Justice on Monday that would explore how its members could recruit more current inmates and ex-offenders.

To fill vacancies companies are trying to draft in prisoners via a scheme that allows inmates to undertake paid work on day release. They are also contacting charities for ex-servicemen and women to try to drum up staff.

Tony Goodger of the meat suppliers’ association said some of its members already had inmates on the release on temporary licence programme working for them and found them to be an asset. It had also been in contact with the Career Transition Partnership, which helps former service personnel into work, and had been able to point some of them to members with job vacancies; however, the “numbers are low”, he said.

“Much of the food industry is facing a recruitment crisis,” said Goodger. “The advice we have received from the Home Office is that the UK’s domestic labour force should take priority. However hard we and many of the members have tried, staffing remains a challenge.”

Goodger said that last week he had contacted HMP Hollesley Bay in Suffolk, but the rehabilitation officer said there was such a big demand for inmates “we’ve reached our quota and we are not allowed to let any more out to go to work”.





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My take from taking in several sources is that the "pingdemic" is only a transitional event. Yes, it has deprived businesses accross the economies of workers, especially visible in the food industry not getting produce to the shelves. The pinging into isolation has had a nuissance effect so now many are not even participating with the observation app, shutting it off / disabled it / deinstalled it.

The real calamity that the UK government continues to ignore is the transport sector accross all supply chains. Even if there were sufficient truck drivers for the HGVs (heavy goods vehicle) there would not be sufficient trucks in the UK to move the goods. The former EU drivers did bring with them their own trucks and did in-country deliveries (cabbotage) in addition to the import and export cargo schedules.

On October 1 the first wave of customs enforcment on imported goods ought to begin. It is expected that the additional delays will deter EU drivers from transporting goods into the UK. And the associated costs will be paid by the UK consumer.

Fun fact: among those new rules to be enforced is a ban on importing frozen poultry and frozen minced meat, a direct retaliation to the EU rules set up at the Irish Sea between England and N.Ireland. Fun fact explained - he UK is not producing sufficient amount of these meat products within its own borders and is in need of the EU to supply the missing volume. British consumers may be wondering about the food shortages in the near future.
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NO! not for you!
EU lorry drivers should get special work visas to tackle supply chain shortages, trade group says
The Government rejected calls for EU lorry drivers to be brought in, insisting employers facing shortages ‘should invest in our domestic workforce instead of relying on labour from abroad’

By Zaina Alibhai
August 21, 2021 10:50 am(Updated 11:20 am)

EU lorry drivers should be granted temporary work visas to help prop up the supply chain across Britain, a trade association has said.

A freight industry body called on the Government to provide 10,000 visas in an attempt to lure drivers back into the job.

Analysis found that 14,000 EU lorry drivers left their jobs in the UK in one year due to Brexit and the Covid pandemic, with only 600 returning since.

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A government spokesperson rejected the call for EU workers to be brought in. They said: “The British people repeatedly voted to end free movement and take back control of our immigration system and employers should invest in our domestic workforce instead of relying on labour from abroad.

“We recently announced a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage, including plans to streamline the process for new drivers to gain their HGV licence and to increase the number of tests able to be conducted.

“We have also temporarily relaxed drivers’ hours rules to allow HGV drivers to make slightly longer journeys, but these must only be used where necessary and must not compromise driver safety.”


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"insisting employers facing shortages ‘should invest in our domestic workforce instead of relying on labour from abroad’"

That's very helpful considering that training a truck driver does not happen over night, my guess with the required hands-on training it will take like six months to get a driver ready for the exams. Then there is a backlog of tests (something like 30'000 due to covid). And those drivers are taking the place of people going into pension and to replace dropouts from the industry. No additional drivers in the pool. All reports indicate that pay is below average.
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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:15 pm "insisting employers facing shortages ‘should invest in our domestic workforce instead of relying on labour from abroad’"

That's very helpful considering that training a truck driver does not happen over night, my guess with the required hands-on training it will take like six months to get a driver ready for the exams. Then there is a backlog of tests (something like 30'000 due to covid). And those drivers are taking the place of people going into pension and to replace dropouts from the industry. No additional drivers in the pool. All reports indicate that pay is below average.
Thats EU training regimin. UK would be more efficient - probably more like 18 months.
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McDonald's runs out of milkshakes in England, Scotland and Wales

McDonald's has run out of milkshakes and some bottled drinks at restaurants in England, Scotland and Wales.

The fast-food chain said it was facing supply chain issues affecting the availability of shakes and bottled drinks at its 1,250 outlets.

An updated statement said it was "working hard" to limit the impact on deliveries and customers and had taken some items off its menus for now.

It confirmed the lorry driver shortage was one reason behind the disruption.

Its statement said: "As reported, a number of issues are impacting retailers in the UK at the moment, one of which is the nationwide shortage of HGV drivers."



https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58315152

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Government fails to recognise UKCA Mark problems
21 JUL 2021

UK: A lack of testing capacity has resulted in some manufacturers being advised that their products are unlikely to be approved to the new UKCA Mark by the government deadline.

As the law stands, any products that are not UKCA-Marked by January 1 next year will not meet contractual requirements and cannot be installed.

Following Brexit, the UK government has confirmed that construction products will move from CE marking to UKCA marking during 2021 so that from January 2022 only products approved and tested to UKCA may be placed onto the market in Great Britain. CE marking is recognised as indicating UK regulatory compliance during 2021, but this is planned to stop by 1 January 2022.

The Building Controls Industry Association (BCIA) has received reports from members that they had been advised that they are unlikely to have their products retested and approved by the government deadline, with the clear implication that such products will not meet contractual requirements and cannot be installed.

The BCIA is backing calls for an extension on the transition time for products to display the new UKCA Mark instead of the established EU CE Mark.

“The government seem to be reluctant to acknowledge the problems and issues facing businesses since Brexit and failing to respond to the topic,” said BCIA president Terry Sharp.

Actuate UK, of which the BCIA is a member, recently issued a warning about serious consequences for businesses, public and commercial projects as well as domestic customers in only six months if a major issue regarding product compliance and standard marking is not resolved. In some product categories, industry is estimating that 64 years’ worth of retesting will be required in the space of just a few months.

“The new system is rife with problems, with a lack of UK laboratory capacity and alleged contradictions in government guidance as to whether overseas accredited laboratories can or cannot be used to provide approved testing services for products,” said Terry Sharp.




https://www.coolingpost.com/uk-news/gov ... -problems/
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The UK government gave manufacturers an extra year to comply with post-Brexit product safety marking rules after pressure from business groups.

Manufacturers had faced a 1 January 2022 deadline to switch from Europe’s CE mark to the new UK conformity assessed (UKCA) standard for most products. However, recognising the impact of the pandemic on manufacturers, the UK Government will extend its deadline for compliance to 1 January 2023.

This comes as a welcomed reprieve to manufacturers present in both British and EU markets who face having to apply two distinct processes, given the UK standard will not apply on the continent.



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Why the heck would the UK move away from the existing CE certification. That has been an international quality assurance system recognized around the world for EVER. It predates the EU and has nothing to do with Brexit.

This is absolutely a case of poking out the eye to smite the face.

Its insane.

EDIT: I just looked it up. Apparently I am wrong. It is European centric. Never mind. HOWEVER, I am quite sure that is carries weight in Australia and the US. Maybe not officially though.
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One of the things Boris was always saying was that when FREE they could create their own superior standards and achieve competitiveness internationally.

So they have to make a pretense of actually bloody doing it now.
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It's total crazy the way to this new UKCA tag. The way Boris Johnson broke ties with the EU the hard way the UK government lost access to the CE certification database. As such they cannot just rewrite CE to UKCA formally (at the start UKCA is an exact copy of CE) to transfer them into the new system. They require a totally new set of tests and certificates submitted. Of course all at cost of the UK consumers, not to think of potential export customers. From several sources I take it that small companies within the EU will not bother with the extra cost for getting UKCA and stop exporting to the island, lowering the choice for UK consumers.

The real fun comes when suppliers have imported stock, "old" CE-only, in the warehouses and can no longer offer it to the public sector where UKCA will be mandatory. Like household appliances for public housing estates.

The real problem will be years down the timeline, where replacement parts will only be valid when UKCA certified. Like for cars and machinery. Producers world wide ought to re-certify good valid CE for the UK parts market. Likely not to happen very often. Again I have not yet seen anything mentioned what should happens with all the existing parts stock sitting in the UK waiting to be sold.
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Brexit news: Petty Macron vetoed EU decision to grant British company Channel patrols | Politics
August 23, 2021

According to Le Journal du Dimanche, France has vetoed a decision by the European border agency Frontex to contract a British company to manage migrant crossings in the Channel. The French newspaper claimed that DEA Aviation, based at Retford airport in Nottinghamshire, was to get the contract from Frontex, but Emmanuel Macron’s government reportedly blocked the decision due to Brexit.

They wrote: “In the context of Brexit, Paris does not want to hear about such an option.
“Unofficially, France has imposed a categorical refusal on Frontex. “
A senior Interior Ministry official said: “We are waiting for Frontex to put resources into action from within the European Union. “

The newspaper claimed that the French government was furious with Frontex’s decision to choose a British company over Dutch and Austrian competitors.

Frontex and the French Interior Ministry said discussions were continuing.

It comes as Britain has agreed to pay an additional £ 54million for the Channel security effort.

It is hoped that the additional funding will prevent further crossings in a year that has seen a record number of small boat crossings.
More than 11,000 migrants have attempted the dangerous crossing this year.
A record 592 people attempted to make the crossing in a single day last Thursday.

British border forces expect the total number of crossing attempts this year to exceed 22,000, nearly three times more than last year.



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UK Could Scrap Cookie Pop-ups And Some GDPR Restrictions
by James Hercher // Thursday, August 26th, 2021 – 2:09 pm
  • The British government is considering an alternative to the GDPR in the wake of the country’s split from the EU. Its plans call for fewer cookie notification pop-ups and less aggressive enforcement by regulators.
    The UK Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told The Daily Telegraph that the country should have a new data protection law that protects consumer privacy, “but does so in as light touch a way as possible.”
His remarks are, in part, politically expedient. In Europe, where site pop-ups are rampant, dumping the notifications could draw cheers. But the government is also bringing in a new Information Commissioner – the individual tasked with data privacy enforcement – so a true change in approach is not outside the realm of possibility.

Dowden doesn’t only cite cookie pop-ups. He pointed to the “pointless bureaucracy” that dampens innovation, not just ad targeting.

The GDPR has heavy compliance costs: hiring a data privacy officer, for instance, plus audits of first-party databases and partners or vendors. A recent academic study found that venture capital investment in Europe is down by more than a third compared to investments in American startups or the rest of the world (though European data privacy and security startups were a bright spot for VCs). The authors of the report concluded that increased privacy costs in the EU motivated the drop, not to mention the much higher risks of fines and lawsuits.

A new UK enforcement regime could have more far-reaching impacts for ad tech, too.

Earlier this year, Google said it would not deprecate third-party cookies in Chrome without approval from the ICO and CMA, the UK’s respective consumer privacy and antitrust regulatory agencies. If the UK takes a less restrictive line on the use of third-party cookies, or perhaps even British publishers and technology companies prevail on the government to allow more targeted advertising, those agencies could derail Chrome’s plans entirely. Many industry execs loudly committed to building the next age of identity and privacy on the internet would quietly breathe a sigh of relief.



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Pigs in blankets at Christmas could be hit by post-Brexit supply problems
Demand for pigs in blankets reaches about 40 million packets every year, but supply could be cut by a third

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Brexit-induced labour shortages may make it difficult for Brits to get their hands on pigs in blankets this winter, a retail industry boss has warned.

Demand for pigs in blankets - sausages wrapped in bacon - reaches about 40 million packets every year.

However, the British Meat Processors Association (BMPA) said that production of the Christmas dinner favourite could be cut by a third.

The shortage comes down to staffing challenges, particularly a shortfall in lorry drivers, BMPA chief executive Nick Allen said. On average BMPA members are around 12 per cent to 13 per cent short on staff, with one company missing about a fifth of its workforce.

He blamed the Government’s immigration policies for the widespread staffing challenges faced across numerous industries.

Mr Allen said: “Some of the pig processors are having to cut down on how many pigs they are processing a week so that’s starting to have an impact back on the farm.

“We are cutting back and prioritising lines and cutting out on things, so there just won’t be the totals of Christmas favourites like we are used to.”

He added that supplies of gammon could also be affected.



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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:15 pm "insisting employers facing shortages ‘should invest in our domestic workforce instead of relying on labour from abroad’"

That's very helpful considering that training a truck driver does not happen over night, my guess with the required hands-on training it will take like six months to get a driver ready for the exams. Then there is a backlog of tests (something like 30'000 due to covid). And those drivers are taking the place of people going into pension and to replace dropouts from the industry. No additional drivers in the pool. All reports indicate that pay is below average.
Looking at the training here in the EU, it's at least 10 weeks just to get the LGV/HGV license and the associated trailer license. And that's if you pass it all in one go.

However, it's all well and good to say you're going to train an extra 10,000 HGV drivers, but that requires instructors as well, and that'll be the next bottleneck.
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A vlogger mused that churning out large number of inexperienced drivers could lead to an increase in lorry accidents. Especially he pointed out that this will take said lorries out of service for an indetermined time to get repaired (sufficient UK mechanics for that?). Considering that the UK does not even have a big enough lorry pool this will increase the pressure.
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Just as I have no sympathy for spreadnecks and COVID deniers, I have little sympathy for my fellow countrypersons who foolishly decided that England needed to become a mighty empire again as they go it alone.

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