Brexit

[PaulG]

The bunch of liars never intended to honour the agreement they signed; always intending to use the political issues around a Eire / NI border to pressure the EU. I believe the EU will approach this with great caution but they know full well what is being done and won’t forgive or forget. I suspect the UK will find this will impact other areas yet to be agreed, to our long-term detriment.

Worse, I don't see anything where the EU really has to care what happens between Eire and the UK. Sure it's tough on one EU member, but there are a lot of EU members. They might help out Ireland if it isn't too much trouble but the EU won't want to sacrifice much.

[Chilidog]

That makes sense, though, doesn't it? Why stay in a lower paying job when you've been urged all along to move up to a better station in life, and now you have the perfect opportunity.

Certainly. Especially as Britain has a large shortage of HGV drivers.

Long haul trucking is going robotic.

I'm thinking 10-15 years and robot trucks woll be commonplace.

[Reality Check]

Worse, I don't see anything where the EU really has to care what happens between Eire and the UK. Sure it's tough on one EU member, but there are a lot of EU members. They might help out Ireland if it isn't too much trouble but the EU won't want to sacrifice much.

I have not seen any indication that the EU will not stand in solidarity with its member state Ireland. Every statement made by the EU confirms this. The EU is also committed to the Good Friday agreement and a soft border with Northern Ireland. Eventually the EU's patience with the lying Brexiteers will run out and they wield the big stick, not the UK.

[Uninformed]

Confusingly I agree with both PaulG and Reality Check. The “balance” the EU must maintain dealing with the Irish border/ Good Friday Agreement is a tricky needle to thread. The EU seems to want to be seen as a “power” in the world but is also a group of 27 countries that have their own priorities / agendas. The possible/probable disagreements between the EU countries on the issue will only antagonise EU - UK relations.

[RTH10260]

That makes sense, though, doesn't it? Why stay in a lower paying job when you've been urged all along to move up to a better station in life, and now you have the perfect opportunity.

Certainly. Especially as Britain has a large shortage of HGV drivers.

Long haul trucking is going robotic.

I'm thinking 10-15 years and robot trucks woll be commonplace.

Those robots will have some special artificial intelligence training to handle those narrow country lanes, they need to recognize the stone walls they have in England, not white stripes on the road.

[RTH10260]

just did see a remark on a vlog - the UK will in the near future lose 20% of businesses in collapse and bankruptcy, that means they will need no any extra drivers


ETA. variation - due the great Australian deal with free of tax imports from down under the farmers of live stock will close, means all those farmers can drive lorries, small difference from a tractor ...

[Volkonski]

[RTH10260]

UK government lowers standards on sewage water discharge

Due to shortages of treatment chemicals produced in the EU and Brexit supply chain failings.

Normally, you need a permit under the Environmental Permitting (England and Wales) Regulations 2016 to discharge treated effluent from a waste water treatment works (WwTW) to surface water or groundwater. Permits contain conditions that control the quality of the effluent you can discharge.

You may not be able to comply with your permit if you cannot get the chemicals you use to treat the effluent you discharge because of:

the UK’s new relationship with the EU
coronavirus (COVID-19)
other unavoidable supply chain failures, for example the failure of a treatment chemical supplier
If you follow the conditions in this regulatory position statement (RPS) you can discharge effluent without meeting the conditions in your permit.

You must get written agreement from your Environment Agency water company account manager before you use this RPS.

from https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... lure-rps-b

[Azastan]

UK government lowers standards on sewage water discharge

Due to shortages of treatment chemicals produced in the EU and Brexit supply chain failings.

Normally, you need a permit under the Environmental Permitting (England and Wales) Regulations 2016 to discharge treated effluent from a waste water treatment works (WwTW) to surface water or groundwater. Permits contain conditions that control the quality of the effluent you can discharge.

You may not be able to comply with your permit if you cannot get the chemicals you use to treat the effluent you discharge because of:

the UK’s new relationship with the EU
coronavirus (COVID-19)
other unavoidable supply chain failures, for example the failure of a treatment chemical supplier
If you follow the conditions in this regulatory position statement (RPS) you can discharge effluent without meeting the conditions in your permit.

You must get written agreement from your Environment Agency water company account manager before you use this RPS.

from https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... lure-rps-b

Wonderful.

[RTH10260]

Consider that they already have bad costal waters and can no longer ship shellfish to the EU. Prior to Brexit they at least had the possibility to ship the critters for treatment to France and Spain for a bath in clean spring water before consumption.

[keith]

just did see a remark on a vlog - the UK will in the near future lose 20% of businesses in collapse and bankruptcy, that means they will need no any extra drivers


ETA. variation - due the great Australian deal with free of tax imports from down under the farmers of live stock will close, means all those farmers can drive lorries, small difference from a tractor ...

Nobody can figure out what exactly the UK actually gets from the deal, but they had to abandon the carbon reduction goals in order to get it.

Australia sweeps the table in the UK trade deal

UK criticised for ‘dropping Paris climate goals in trade deal with Australia’

[RTH10260]

just did see a remark on a vlog - the UK will in the near future lose 20% of businesses in collapse and bankruptcy, that means they will need no any extra drivers


ETA. variation - due the great Australian deal with free of tax imports from down under the farmers of live stock will close, means all those farmers can drive lorries, small difference from a tractor ...

Nobody can figure out what exactly the UK actually gets from the deal, but they had to abandon the carbon reduction goals in order to get it.

Australia sweeps the table in the UK trade deal

UK criticised for ‘dropping Paris climate goals in trade deal with Australia’

What the UK will be getting out of this, you ask? I tell you its an upcoming desaster for food exporters to the EU. In everything I have read and watched, nobody has yet spoken of this side effect: i predict the EU will block food (fresh frozen or processed) that is currently accetpable from the UK cause the EU will no longer trust any UK Certification Of Origin that the produce is wholly UK made. They will assume it's tainted with "bad" Australian meat (or perhaps those chlorined US chickens to come).

[Azastan]

What the UK will be getting out of this, you ask? I tell you its an upcoming desaster for food exporters to the EU. In everything I have read and watched, nobody has yet spoken of this side effect: i predict the EU will block food (fresh frozen or processed) that is currently accetpable from the UK cause the EU will no longer trust any UK Certification Of Origin that the produce is wholly UK made. They will assume it's tainted with "bad" Australian meat (or perhaps those chlorined US chickens to come).

Unforeseen consequences of actions poorly thought through, eh?

[Uninformed]

Being of a suspicious bent, whilst pondering the “Brexit endgame” I have repeatedly arrived at the only (seemingly) logical conclusion that the old Etonian etc dominated government has decided that a sovereign UK must be as self-sufficient as possible and that to achieve this the plebs must work longer and harder for less. I realise deals such as that with Australia do not fit this picture but assume they have some delusional plan for the reborn Great BrItain (not being really interested in Northern Ireland, Scotland, or Wales).

[RTH10260]

Brexit Is Causing A Crisis In UK Veterinary!

Maximilien Robespierre 9 Sept 2021

A lady called Julie was kind enough to let me share her story. She received this letter from her local veterinary clinic which used to provide treatment for large animals, like horses. Now due to Brexit he are unable to find the staff be it mixed vets or specialists. This means a bigger headache for those who have large animals as many vets were either from aboard or had trained in the UK, Brexit has put a stop to that.

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[RTH10260]

CBI warns skills shortage ‘could last for two years’
The director-general of the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) has warned that labour supply problems could last for up to two years.

BY CAROLINE WADHAM
6 SEPTEMBER 2021

Tony Danker said the end of the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme at the end of the month will not do enough to plug the skills gap.

The CBI said that while the HGV driver shortage continues to be an issue, there are skills deficits across other professions.

Danker said "standing firm and waiting for shortages to solve themselves is not the way to run an economy. We need to simultaneously address short-term economic needs and long-term economic reform."

He has also urged businesses continue to invest in training, automation and digital transformation, and to do more to attract and retain staff.

Danker said: “Labour shortages are biting right across the economy. While the CBI and other economists still predict growth returning to pre-pandemic levels later this year, furlough ending is not the panacea some people think will magically fill labour supply gaps. These shortages are already affecting business operations and will have a negative impact on the UK’s economic recovery.

“Building a more innovative economy – coupled with better training and education – can sustainably improve business performance, wages and living standards. But transformation on this scale requires planning and takes time. The government’s ambition that the UK economy should become more high skilled and productive is right. But implying that this can be achieved overnight is simply wrong. And a refusal to deploy temporary and targeted interventions to enable economic recovery is self-defeating.”



https://www.drapersonline.com/news/cbi- ... -two-years

[RTH10260]

no drivers no business

Warning as number of haulage firms going out of business accelerates
Experts have warned of an acceleration in the number of haulage companies going out of business as Brexit and driver shortages bite.

By Scott Reid
Friday, 10th September 2021, 12:30 pm

June saw 31 haulage firm insolvencies, the highest in a single month since January 2019, according to Mazars, the international audit, tax and advisory firm.

The fall in shipments between the UK and EU and between Great Britain and Northern Ireland since Brexit has seen revenues fall for some logistics businesses that relied on cross-border trade, the firm noted.

Hauliers have also suffered amid the additional red tape and costs of doing business with the EU.

Rebecca Dacre, partner at Mazars, said: “Brexit has hit the logistics industry very hard. Combined with the effects of the pandemic, we’re starting to see an acceleration in haulage companies going out of business.

[RTH10260]

M&S may close some French stores due to supply chain delays caused by Brexit
High street retailer says border controls are leading to gaps on the shelves and tons of food being spoiled

Zoe Wood
Sun 12 Sep 2021 18.53 BST

Marks & Spencer could close some of its French stores after new Brexit border controls left it struggling to keep the shelves full.

The high street retailer has been vocal about the big supply chain problems it has encountered since the UK left the trading bloc, with lengthy delays leading to tonnes of food being spoiled and gaps on shelves.

In the summer, the M&S chairman, Archie Norman, complained that “byzantine” regulations meant only two-thirds of sandwiches were getting to stores. Most of them only have a shelf life of 48 hours, so even short delays can make them unsaleable.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -by-brexit

[Volkonski]

[Uninformed]

So there is an up-side to Brexit after all.

[AndyinPA]

[MisterC]

Absolute insanity HGV driving tests to be relaxed to help lorry driver shortages ahead of Christmas

The changes are:

• From 20 September, car drivers will not be able to take a test to tow a trailer or caravan to allow about 30,000 more HGV driving tests to be taken this year

• Tests will be made shorter, with the reversing exercise element removed and the uncoupling and recoupling exercise for trailer tests removed - and they will not have to be tested separately by a third party

• Articulated vehicle drivers will no longer have to get a licence for a smaller vehicle first. The government says this will allow about 20,000 more HGV tests each year and means drivers can gain licences and enter the industry more quickly.

Especially the second bit is nonsense. Most innercity delivery runs will undoubtly involve some form of reversing, and uncoupling and recoupling is such an integral part of driving with a trailer (not to mention, it's dangerous - a colleague of mine lost a finger when it got caught during a coupling excercise) that it's akin to just skipping over the reversal part of a regular driving exam.

[MisterC]

Don't like the agreement you just negotiated and signed? Just threaten to suspend it and argue you should be allowed to renegotiate it once again...

UK government threatens to suspend Northern Ireland protocol

Brexit minister Lord Frost tells House of Lords that the European Commission must take renegotiation proposals seriously

The row over Brexit and Northern Ireland has escalated after the UK government issued a new warning to the EU that it will not shy away from unilaterally suspending the Northern Ireland protocol agreed by Boris Johnson last year.

Lord Frost, the Brexit minister, told the House of Lords on Monday night that the EU should take the UK’s proposals to renegotiate part of the protocol “seriously” if it wanted to avoid the protocol collapsing.

He said his July command paper had set out the tests the UK would apply to trigger article 16 of the protocol, which allows either side to suspend the protocol if it is deemed as having a significant impact on everyday life.

[RTH10260]

Absolute insanity HGV driving tests to be relaxed to help lorry driver shortages ahead of Christmas

The changes are:

• From 20 September, car drivers will not be able to take a test to tow a trailer or caravan to allow about 30,000 more HGV driving tests to be taken this year

• Tests will be made shorter, with the reversing exercise element removed and the uncoupling and recoupling exercise for trailer tests removed - and they will not have to be tested separately by a third party

• Articulated vehicle drivers will no longer have to get a licence for a smaller vehicle first. The government says this will allow about 20,000 more HGV tests each year and means drivers can gain licences and enter the industry more quickly.

Especially the second bit is nonsense. Most innercity delivery runs will undoubtly involve some form of reversing, and uncoupling and recoupling is such an integral part of driving with a trailer (not to mention, it's dangerous - a colleague of mine lost a finger when it got caught during a coupling excercise) that it's akin to just skipping over the reversal part of a regular driving exam.

One vlogger ("remoaner" ) discussed this proposal. He believes this will not help cause companies are looking for fully qualified drivers. If the government will no longer certify such qualifications as correctly handling of the vehicles or the ability to reverse out of a tight spot then some private companies would need to provide those missing certifications. Of course at extra cost to whoever pays for the drivers education. The insurance companies will also jump in and adjust their policies, they don't want to cover damages caused by the lesser qualified.

[RTH10260]

after insisting up until only a few days ago that the paperwork "red tape" will go live on October 1

now

UK delays post-Brexit border checks on EU imports amid fears of Christmas food shortages
Paper checks delayed from October to January while physical checks are pushed back to July 2022.

By Arj Singh Deputy Political Editor
September 14, 2021 10:01 am(Updated 10:31 am)

The UK will again delay the introduction of post-Brexit border checks on imports from the EU, Cabinet Office Minister Penny Mordaunt has announced.

Paper checks that were due to be introduced on some goods from October will be pushed back to January.

Full physical checks on agri-food and plant products will meanwhile be pushed back from January to July 2022.

Ms Mordaunt blamed Covid and increased freight costs for causing pressure on global supply chains, which has sparked fears of Christmas food shortages.

It comes after the chief executive of the Food and Drink Federation, Ian Wright, warned that food shortages in UK supermarkets could be permanent due to labour shortages in the supply chain – claims that were rejected by Downing Street.

Ms Mordaunt insisted the Government’s preparations “in terms of systems, infrastructure and resourcing, remain on track” to meet the previous timetable.

“However, the pandemic has had longer-lasting impacts on businesses, both in the UK and in the European Union, than many observers expected in March.

“There are also pressures on global supply chains, caused by a wide range of factors including the pandemic and the increased costs of global freight transport.

“These pressures are being especially felt in the agrifood sector.

“In these circumstances, the Government has decided to delay further some elements of the new controls, especially those relating to sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) goods.”


https://inews.co.uk/news/uk-delays-post ... es-1198006