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Dr. Ken wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:11 pm Looks like the top two twitter accounts for the fraudit got suspended by twitter
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:clap: They were nasty, especially when they started tweeting the dead dog stuff, that was horrible. Probably not what got them suspended though.

Just checked, they suspended the state by state ones too! :clap:
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AuditWarRoom was revealed as the Gateway House of Boys' Hunky Jordan "Spunk Log" Conradson. "Spunk Log" is how he described "Splunk Log" in one of his totally unbiased GP articles.
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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:16 pm I guess the county will also balk on a request to view sensitive logs, the subpoena does not detail what selection the ninjas have in mind.
I am trying to picture what kind of nightmarish abomination one would hand over if asked for a massive pile of splunk logs by themselves. Terabytes of csv or sql files, that they would then have to reimport into their own system and then make sense of?

Hrm.. actually,.. that sounds kinda fun.
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W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:54 am
Dave from down under wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:50 am Is there no state constitutional remedy to such abuse of power?
The ballot box
And the courts. I don't know the specific tactics, but essentially the "witness" can not comply, which will (in some manner or other) raise the stakes. If the subpoena isn't dropped or otherwise resolved, one side eventually will ask a judge to control the other side.
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bob wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:39 pm And the courts. I don't know the specific tactics, but essentially the "witness" can not comply, which will (in some manner or other) raise the stakes. If the subpoena isn't dropped or otherwise resolved, one side eventually will ask a judge to control the other side.
From what I understand, their current plan is to try and end run around the courts by enforcing the subpoenas at the AZ Senate level, then have the Sergeant at Arms arrest anyone that they decide isn't complying properly. :bored:

But yeah, seems like MCBOS and Dominion would take that to a real court.
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raison de arizona wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:00 pm From what I understand, their current plan is to try and end run around the courts by enforcing the subpoenas at the AZ Senate level, then have the Sergeant at Arms arrest anyone that they decide isn't complying properly. :bored:

But yeah, seems like MCBOS and Dominion would take that to a real court.
Exactly: an arrest by the Senate would be in court faster than you can say, "habeas corpus."
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neeneko wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:38 pm
RTH10260 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:16 pm I guess the county will also balk on a request to view sensitive logs, the subpoena does not detail what selection the ninjas have in mind.
I am trying to picture what kind of nightmarish abomination one would hand over if asked for a massive pile of splunk logs by themselves. Terabytes of csv or sql files, that they would then have to reimport into their own system and then make sense of?

Hrm.. actually,.. that sounds kinda fun.
One could have fun with following their exact wording: splunk logs - in my interpretation are logs created by the splunk package itself. On the other hand I now understand that Splunk is also an analysis tool that can look at data emanating from various kinds of non-splunk log files. I guess that following the exact wording not much remains to be available to the brainy ninjas. I hope the AZ Congress car park access control does keep a spunk log - barrier opens - barrier closes - barrier...
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Just to be clear, Randy Pullen is a Republican Party activist who is a former Chairman of the Arizona Republican Party. Hardly an impartial auditor.
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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:04 pm One could have fun with following their exact wording: splunk logs - in my interpretation are logs created by the splunk package itself.
Ha! I never even considered that interpretation. Yeah, splunk itself has its own log, which would be terribly funny to supply them.

I guess one thing I never really thought about is how much splunk goes out an access data sources while leaving the data in place vs ingesting the data and putting it in its own store. I have never actually set up an instance, only used it.
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raison de arizona wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:26 pm Image
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Just to be clear, Randy Pullen is a Republican Party activist who is a former Chairman of the Arizona Republican Party. Hardly an impartial auditor.
Sigh. Karen, MCBOS gave you every damn thing they were ordered to provide!!!!!!

MCBOS is trying to "control the narrative"? Oh, good lord. They've simply answered the allegations against them and given the facts. How dare they explain on the process (and embarrass you and CN!)! But, wait. I thought you wanted answers and transparency? Be careful what you wish for, Karen.
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I found a video of Karen and Logan along with a chorus of RW noise machines.

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BREAKING: County Supervisors To Hold Special Meeting Wednesday To Discuss Response To Senate's "Audit" Subpoena (READ Subpoena)
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors will hold a special meeting tomorrow to discuss their response to the latest election audit-related subpoena from some Republican Senators.

At the 9am executive session, the Republican-dominated Supervisors will get legal advice from the (Republican) County Attorney's Office on several related matters: (1) compliance with the subpoena (below), (2) election administration and equipment, (3) "election-related public records requests", and (4) "election-related litigation". The two currently-active lawsuits related to public records requests do not involve Maricopa County, so the last two topics would appear to be forward-looking and/or requests that are not yet in the public sphere.

The new subpoena issued yesterday repeats some of the demands made in the previous one. Maricopa County turned over ballots, machines, voter registration records and more then, and that led to the recount/"audit" which began in April. The County did not turn over some items then, and the Senate has not tried to enforce compliance.

The new subpoena, signed by Senate President Karen Fann and Judiciary Committee Chair Warren Peterson, demands compliance by next Monday (August 2).
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/20 ... -hold.html
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Maricopa County weights subpoena response, unlikely to turn over routers
[url=https://ktar.com/story/4594636/maricopa ... uters/amp/]Maricopa County officials[url] are weighing their response to a new subpoena from Arizona Senate Republican leaders over items related to the 2020 election, but it appears they will resist handing over network routers.

“We just received this late yesterday,” Supervisor Bill Gates, one of four Republicans on the five-member board that governs the county, told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s Arizona’s Morning News in his first of two Tuesday morning interviews with the station.

“So we’ll convene as a body, will meet with our attorneys, go over this. If there are reasonable requests in here, of course we will turn those over.”
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“We will respond in some way,” Gates told KTAR News’ The Mike Broomhead Show.

Senate President Karen Fann and Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen issued the subpoena, listing envelopes from all mail-in ballots or images of them, network routers and traffic logs, detailed voter registration records with change histories, and records related to security breaches of election systems.

Citing security concerns, the county has denied previous requests for the routers, which are used by multiple agencies, including the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

Gates said he hasn’t changed his stance on the devices.

“If there’s a determination that turning over these routers is going to threaten the safety of law enforcement, and it would be turning over personal information, as one supervisor, that’s where I draw the line,” he told Broomhead.

“If they go back to court — I would never try and guess what a judge is going to rule — but I imagine the judge would say … ‘The ball’s in your court, you’ve got to determine how to get these documents and other materials from the board of supervisors,’” Gates told Broomhead.

Before the judge ruled in the Senate’s favor in February, the Senate failed in an effort to hold the county supervisors in contempt over their lack of compliance, which could have landed them behind bars.

Sen. Paul Boyer was the sole Republican to vote against the contempt resolution, joining the Senate’s 14 Democrats and creating a 15-15 tie.

Another contempt effort seems unlikely to succeed because not only is the Legislature out of session, but at least one other GOP senator, Michele Ugenti-Rita, has joined Boyer in publicly denouncing the audit proceedings.

“Sadly, it’s now become clear that the audit has been botched,” Ugenti-Rita, a 2022 candidate for Arizona secretary of state, tweeted over the weekend. “The total lack of competence by @FannKfann over the last 5 months has deprived the voters of Arizona a comprehensive accounting of the 2020 election.”
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Fann demands records on audit from Hobbs
In a sign the Senate audit, which was supposed to be only about the 2020 election results, is now expanding in scope, Senate President Karen Fann now wants documents from Secretary of State Katie Hobbs.

In a public records request, the Prescott Republican is demanding any communications Hobbs has had with anyone about the audit and the litigation it has produced. And Fann is casting a wide net, seeking not just messages with federal, state and local officials but also political parties, volunteers, consultants, vendors, formal or informal advisors, fundraisers and the media.

“I can’t disclose what we’re looking for at this time,” Fann told Capitol Media Services, including how any of what she wants fits into the Senate’s need to investigate the election conduct and results as part of its duties to review existing laws and craft new ones.


The move comes as Hobbs, a Democrat, has publicly accused the auditors of “making it up as they go along,” and saying she has no confidence in whatever is produced by Cyber Ninjas, the firm Fann hired to conduct the review.

For the moment, Hobbs aide Murphy Hebert said her boss, is reviewing the request.

"At this point it appears to be the kind of nebulous fishing expedition that we’ve come to expect from the Senate president,” she said. And Hebert called it “ironic” that this comes even as Fann has hired outside counsel to fight requests for public records about the audit, “including who’s actually funding the partisan ballot review.”

The development comes as former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, who was Fann’s initial choice as her liaison with Cyber Ninjas, said he has been locked out of the Veterans Memorial Coliseum over a dispute about information he provided to outsiders.

Meanwhile, Randy Pullen, whom Fann also tapped to work with the auditors, said the final counting of the ballots was completed Tuesday. He said they are being packed up for return to Maricopa County.

Pullen said a report on the audit could be prepared by the middle of August. :rotflmao:

But all that depends on what new information is obtained from the county. And that goes to Fann’s separate decision to now issue new — and long expected — subpoenas to the county supervisors for items that Cyber Ninjas contends is necessary for it to complete its work.
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The subpoena also wants up-to-date voter records along with notations of any changes made. That goes to allegations by Cyber Ninjas that there is evidence some people were permitted to vote who had not registered by the deadline.
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All this could pave the way for a new round of litigation about the extent of the ability of Fann to demand whatever she says is necessary for the Senate to investigate the 2020 election.
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LMK, your updates on this have been priceless and hilarious!

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northland10 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:45 pm I found a video of Karen and Logan along with a chorus of RW noise machines.

A slightly more blunt version by Ice Cube. Always know who yer effing with.
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My last big project before I retired (sort of) was a new claims system for a very large insurance company. It was a complex system that used a number of different technologies and had it's own server farm. Splunk pulled in logs from several other sources to monitor performance, failed processes and even generate alerts when certain conditions were met. In the right hands, it's a great tool but if you don't know exactly what you're looking at it'll mostly be meaningless.

As for providing an outside entity access to detailed information about my network topology and network logs....over my dead body. These idiots will post it online trying to prove some point about something they don't understand and there goes my network security. Third party vendors only get the relevant details of my system that are absolutely required to complete their work, and they only get that after they sign an NDA.
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Based on the to-ing and fro-ing, squealing and whining, it would appear that Splunk was being used as a SIEM (Security Incident and Event Management) solution.

Nothing wrong with that but much like a GRC system like Archer, buying it and using it are two very very different things. Splunk is a beast that must be fed well, properly and expertly or it rapidly devolves into uselessness and GIGO(Garbage In Garbage Out).

It is also more than a tad expensive and needs trained high priests/esses to maintain and tune the beast.

Which is one set of reasons why many organizations don't have the tin and bodies in house but use Splunk as a Service with the service in the cloud, such as AWS and specialists from a managed security service run and feed it.

One wonders if Maricopa County has gone down this route..?

Nevertheless, when you are talking about high Gigabytes possibly low Terabytes of ingestion from hundreds or even thousands of sources, servers, switches, routers, microservices, web servers, email, SharePoint etc etc squealing that you want "The Splunk logs" is pretty insane.

You have syslog servers, Splunk forwarders, heavy forwarders, Splunk indexers, dedicated network backbones, caching servers, policy engine, data store, search engine and so on. Are you storing the logs, are you pruning them, do you keep nn days then flush, do the originating systems keep the logs locally for nn days as well.......The permutations go on.....

Hell, I'm not even going to start on evanescent virtual machines, service, indexing and log deployment or the fun of inventory management.

All the noise is doing is demonstrating just how far out of their depths the "ninja's" are.
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Shizzle Popped wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:02 am These idiots will post it online trying to prove some point about something they don't understand and there goes my network security.
I picture them announcing something like 'we found logs for packets from 10.x.y.z addresses, and happend to know this OTHER network also uses 10.x.y.z address, so the two are clearly communicating! There must a VPN tunnel they are not disclosing, otherwise why would we be asking for it?'
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Shhhh. I'ma 10.x.y.z. You're gonna break my cover. I've been trying to keep a low profile by being a 192.x.y.z and a 76.x.y.z at the same time. But if you ask, I may be a 2600:1702:lots of numbers and letters.
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Well I hope they don't find IP 192.168.0.1 on the logs, as we all know that's the IP of the Chinese.

What do you mean "Chinese what?" It's the IP of the Chinese dammit.
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If I had to prepare that kind of dump, I would be so tempted make sure the format used the string u8.u8.u8.u8 notation and throw in some '666' addresses just to screw with them. Any good ingestion should throw an error since it isn't a valid value, which would bring it to their attention, and maybe get their apocalyptic followers riled up.
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[clutching pearls]Let's hope it's 169.254.x.x. Definitely cause for alarm. We all know who and what lurks behind those addys. [/clutching pearls]
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This thread gives "the numbers rackets" a whole new meaning. 8-)
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