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Insane that Dr. Shiva will be there, he's the poster boy for lies and fraud. And apparently, he's been hired for the Wisconsin fraudit too also. Anyone giving him credibility shows they are an idiot.

Ben Ginsburg used to scare the hell out of us, he was the GOP's top DOOM lawyer. Remember being frightened even meeting him at parties in DC. :lol: Now that he's retired, he's showing that he was doing the job, but knew all along what bullsh*t the Republicans were peddling.

Here's a great thread by Jeremy Duda about a press call with Ben about the fraudit results. Link below is for an unroll. Up to chapter 30 on PERIL, listening to the insane craziness of Squidney, Rudy & Co while reading about the fraudit is really funny.




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In @ElectionInnov press call, longtime Republican campaign lawyer Ben Ginsberg says if audit team tomorrow says they can't definitively say who won Maricopa County, "that's a cop-out." He notes that @FannKfann has said audit team had everything it needed.

Ginsberg: “If the Cyber Ninjas report doesn’t produce solid, smoking gun, irrefutable evidence of a fraudulent election with evidence that stands up to scrutiny, that means Trump and his allies have failed.”

This was a "designer audit" by Trump allies that "bypassed all accepted standards," Ginsberg says. “This has to be a smoking gun report. If Trump and his supporters can’t prove it here with the process they designed, then they can’t prove it anywhere.”

Ginsberg also notes that audit was funded in a "peculiar way" for an allegedly objective audit. “That is a mark of credibility that would doom any other audit in any other context.”

.@ElectionInnov Executive Director @beckerdavidj: "This partisan effort in Arizona is ending, it appears to be ending as it begun," with "highly biased, incompetent individuals running the process."

Becker noted that the findings are being unveiled at 4pm EST. “Nobody has ever released what they think to be good news at 4 p.m. on a Friday afternoon in the history of the United States or any other place on earth. So it’s clear how they view the credibility of the report.”

I'll add that the actual report won't be released to the public until after tomorrow's presentation is over. So we'll have very little time on a Friday afternoon to fact check any of the actual findings.

Becker says any effort to use alleged procedural issues to cast doubt on election to exclusion of actual evidence of fraud or wrongdoing "is nothing more than sore loserism. Ginsberg said that would be "a huge swing and a miss.”

Ginsberg: AZ Senate "gave the Cyber Ninjas everything they wanted in terms of being able to set up a process that would, by all appearances, lead to a preordained result.”

If the audit team makes allegations about signatures on ballot envelopes, Ginsberg says they need to show specifics. “The burden of proof in this, if they call into question the validity of the results because of signatures, is to actually show the evidence.”

Becker warns that the constant messaging that the election was rigged could depress Republican turnout, says there's evidence this happened in Georgia special election, California recall. “The more people hear those messages, the less likely they are to vote.”

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Feel better orly!

Wendy's "decertify" opinion...
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, issues a legal opinion explaining how states can #Decertify their elections & counters the AZ Senate lawyer (Ken Behringer) who recently sent an opinion stating there is no mechanism to decertify. We must DECERTIFY!
Date: September 23, 2021
To: Sen. Wendy Rogers
From: Matt DePerno
Subject: Final Memo regarding Authority Over Elections and Electors

Can a State Legislature recall the state electors or decertify a national election upon proof of
fraud in the election? The Answer is "Yes."


On August 14, 2021, I presented a memo to Sen. Wendy Rogers titled "Preliminary Memo
regarding Authority Over Elections and Electors." That memo concluded that a State Legislature
has the authority to recall the state elector or decertify a national election upon proof of fraud in
the election. Importantly, this does not require proof of "all of the fraud."


On September 16, 2021, Ken Behringer prepared a memo to Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita that asked
the question "Is there a mechanism to decertify a presidential election?" (the "Behringer Memo")
The Behringer memo concluded there is no mechanism to decertify a presidential election outside
of 3 U.S.C. §§ 5 and 15.

This memo disagrees with the Behringer Memo for the following reasons: (1) Sec. 5 is limited to
the controversy of any appointment of electors and does not address decertification of an election;
(2) Sec. 15 is limited to the counting of electoral votes and objections on January 6 and does not
address decertification of an election based on fraud; (3) the Behringer Memo does not address
decertification of an election upon proof of fraud; and (4) the Behringer Memo relies on Trump v
Kemp, 511 F. Supp. 3d 1325 (N.D. Ga. 2021) which deals only with court authority to decertify
an election (and only in the context of Secs. 5 and 15) but which does not deal with the State
Legislature's authority to decertify an election.

In light of the Behringer Memo, we ask again whether a State Legislature can recall the state
electors or decertify a national election upon proof of fraud in the election? After again
considering the constitutional authority of the State Legislature, the Constitution itself, and
U.S. Supreme Court authority and precedent, the answer is definitively "Yes."
The rest: https://wendyrogers.org/wp-content/uplo ... 092321.pdf
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DePerno was an attorney for some of the 2020 failsuits about the election. And is seeking to be the Republican party's nomination to be AG of Michigan (but nice of him to have opinions about Arizona). In 2022. (The repeached Florida Man endorsed him.)

DePerno is long on the opinion that a state can decertify. But short on the inevitable, "And...?"

Say the Arizona legislature passes a resolution decertifying its 2020 election results. And? If it mails its "decertification" to the National Archivist, it'll be stamped "correspondence" and shoved in a box. If it goes to court to "enforce" its decertification, that case will get dismissed faster than you can "political question."

And Biden continues to be president.
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So, is this the "just because the Constitution says nothing about this doesn't mean we can't"?

Uh, doesn't there have to be a state law in place to decertify an election???
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LM K wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:23 pm So, is this the "just because the Constitution says nothing about this doesn't mean we can't"?
:fingerwag: : The 9th and 10th Amendments! :roll:
Uh, doesn't there have to be a state law in place to decertify an election???
The sore losers placed (and continue to place) great emphasis on how the U.S. Constitution specifies the role of the states' legislatures. They firmly believe a state legislature could pass a resolution; no governor's signature required.
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bob wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:32 pm
LM K wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:23 pm So, is this the "just because the Constitution says nothing about this doesn't mean we can't"?
:fingerwag: : The 9th and 10th Amendments! :roll:
Uh, doesn't there have to be a state law in place to decertify an election???
The sore losers placed (and continue to place) great emphasis on how the U.S. Constitution specifies the role of the states' legislatures. They firmly believe a state legislature could pass a resolution; no governor's signature required.
Thank you, Bob!

I tweeted what you wrote about the need for a resolution and the role of the national archives and how nothing changes.

I took credit for your brilliance. That's just how I roll. Cause ... Twitter. I hope you can forgive my intellectual theft!! :pray:

I don't think that the repubs will get the votes to pass such a resolution, but I'm curious about the process.

The repubs have a one seat majority in the AZ senate. 2 repubs have spoken out against this entire fiasco.

If there are fraudulent ballots (there isn't) that means the entire election is affected. State elections were decided in 2020. Does AZ really want to go this far? You can't say that only the presidential election was interfered with.

And how far is Fann willing to take this? She wanted out of this ages ago. Her stated reason for this audit ... " Well, some people suspect" and "this will help us make future elections better". How much further will she take this?
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And the crazy thing is, (well, one of them) is nobody's mind will be changed no matter what the report says. Fann can claim it's to help soothe frazzled nerves and election misconduct fears, but it won't. It will just put a target on the back of "RINOs" that don't continue screaming fraud.
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LM K wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:10 pm The repubs have a one seat majority in the AZ senate. 2 repubs have spoken out against this entire fiasco.
Two seat majority, a D resigned last month in disgrace after being arrested on allegations of child sexual abuse. So I think the current count is 16 R, 13 D. With the two defections though, the crazies are still outnumbered.
If there are fraudulent ballots (there isn't) that means the entire election is affected. State elections were decided in 2020. Does AZ really want to go this far? You can't say that only the presidential election was interfered with.
All they checked was president and US Senator, so... Apparently they can? Even though it's stupid.
And how far is Fann willing to take this? She wanted out of this ages ago. Her stated reason for this audit ... " Well, some people suspect" and "this will help us make future elections better". How much further will she take this?
Now that is the million hundred thousand dollar question, she has the power to put the brakes on. Officially, at least. Unofficially, they'll never give up.
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Are you enjoying your "salad days" in AZ, raison?
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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:04 pm Are you enjoying your "salad days" in AZ, raison?
I was here for the MLK debacle, Mecham impeachment, Keating Five, etc. so it just really feels like coming home in every way! Things have been messed up here a long time, this is just the latest! It's sure a doozy though.
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:30 pm
LM K wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:10 pm The repubs have a one seat majority in the AZ senate. 2 repubs have spoken out against this entire fiasco.
Two seat majority, a D resigned last month in disgrace after being arrested on allegations of child sexual abuse. So I think the current count is 16 R, 13 D. With the two defections though, the crazies are still outnumbered.
If there are fraudulent ballots (there isn't) that means the entire election is affected. State elections were decided in 2020. Does AZ really want to go this far? You can't say that only the presidential election was interfered with.
All they checked was president and US Senator, so... Apparently they can? Even though it's stupid.
And how far is Fann willing to take this? She wanted out of this ages ago. Her stated reason for this audit ... " Well, some people suspect" and "this will help us make future elections better". How much further will she take this?
Now that is the million hundred thousand dollar question, she has the power to put the brakes on. Officially, at least. Unofficially, they'll never give up.
Thank you for the correction!

I'm going to be seriously pissed if CN says dead people voted and the powers that be don't recognize that all votes on those non-existent ballots aren't affected.

But ... dead people only vote for Dems.
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LM K wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:40 pm I'm going to be seriously pissed if CN says dead people voted and the powers that be don't recognize that all votes on those non-existent ballots aren't affected.

But ... dead people only vote for Dems.
It's weird how that works, any fraudulent vote is automatically a Biden vote, even though ALL the handful of actual fraudulent votes I've seen across the country have been for tfg.
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When I'm dead I'm definitely still voting for Democrats. 8-)
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Foggy wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:42 pm When I'm dead I'm definitely still voting for Democrats. 8-)
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Of course, Foggy. You’ll be in the wrong place to vote for Republicans. 8-)
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What's the Frequency, Kenneth?
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Meanwhile, in Texas, which has done nothing about the electric grid… (gonna need a new thread)

The SOS wants the legislature (taxpayers) to cover this. And the lego will vote for it.

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I can't wait to read MCBOS response to all of this.

The overview of results.
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A big 'ol nothing burger.
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Hand count in audit affirms Biden beat Trump, as Maricopa County said in November
A monthslong hand recount of Maricopa County’s 2020 vote confirmed that President Joe Biden won and the election was not “stolen” from former President Donald Trump, according to early versions of a report prepared for the Arizona Senate.

The three-volume report by the Cyber Ninjas, the Senate’s lead contractor, includes results that show Trump lost by a wider margin than the county’s official election results. The data in the report also confirms that U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly won in the county.

The official results are set to be presented to the Senate at 1 p.m. Friday. Several versions of the draft report, titled “Maricopa County Forensic Audit” by Cyber Ninjas, circulated prematurely on Wednesday and Thursday. Multiple versions were obtained by The Arizona Republic.
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The draft reports reviewed by The Republic minimize the ballot counts and election results and instead focus on issues that raise questions about the election process and voter integrity.

Election analysts say those findings are misleading and built on faulty data.


The draft report shows there was less than a 1,000-vote difference between the county's certified ballot count and the Cyber Ninjas' hand count.

The hand count shows Trump received 45,469 fewer votes than Biden. The county results showed he lost by 45,109.

The draft audit report says, however, the election results are inconclusive. :rotflmao:
:snippity:

The draft report comes in three parts adding up to about 110 pages. It includes recommended changes to state elections law and suggestions for how the county should correct certain election processes, including how to keep voter information updated, ballot handling and voting machine security.

It recommends that a few concerns be investigated by the Arizona attorney general.

Tom Liddy, a deputy Maricopa County attorney, on Thursday, provided The Republic with a copy of a document the county received.

Liddy said he could not verify that the document he had was an official Cyber Ninjas document because the county did not get it from the Senate. He declined to say who provided it to the county but said that someone dropped it off Wednesday at the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office.
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White said the Senate is raising bogus concerns in a way that will shift focus from the fact that the audit found Trump lost the election by numbers that closely matched the county’s.

“I’m outraged at what the Senate has done, what it is doing here,” he said Thursday. “They have not involved any election officials in this audit. They have not involved any county officials."


White is part of a three-man team dubbed “The Audit Guys,” who have analyzed election and voting processes nationwide. He said that his team is preparing a rebuttal to the report that will demonstrate section by section how the Cyber Ninjas got it wrong.

“The Ninjas don’t understand Arizona’s voting laws,” he said. “They don’t understand the structure of voting systems.”


He called out the draft report's failure to provide specific breakdowns of the count in the report, including key voting elements such as boxes, batches and precinct information that would allow experts to burrow into the data.

“We’ve demonstrated in the past that if they produce those counts, we are going to destroy those reports,” he said.
“They have wasted $6-$7 million and months of people’s time on something that is just not credible.”

One of the most significant problems is the Cyber Ninjas’ reliance on a commercial database to verify voters. White said. He called the methodology sloppy and said experts who do this for a living instead would use data directly from the County Recorder’s Office, not data from a third party.

White disputes Senate President Karen Fann’s claim that she launched the audit to improve election integrity. He said the draft report went out of its way to ensure findings would raise doubts about the process when the counts didn’t show fraud.

“It was a conspiracy to keep Donald Trump in power by extraconstitutional means,” he said.
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Wendy is in full panic mode.









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LM K wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:01 am I can't wait to read MCBOS response to all of this.

The overview of results.

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A big 'ol nothing burger.
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The draft report shows that the hand recount found that President Joe Biden received 99 more votes than Maricopa County had reported after November's election, while former President Donald Trump received 261 fewer votes than the county reported.
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Greatgrey wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:34 pm Meanwhile, in Texas, which has done nothing about the electric grid… (gonna need a new thread)

The SOS wants the legislature (taxpayers) to cover this. And the lego will vote for it.

:snippity: :snippity:
Given that Texas currently doesn't have a SOS, I wonder on whose authority that call has been made?
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Patrick M Byrne, [23.09.21 23:55]
Tomorrow I will be live after the hearing on AmericaProject.com with Jovan, Col Phil Waldren, Seth Keshel and other leading election audit experts as we discuss the findings released to Arizona Senta for the audit report.

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Wendy Rogers is talking about this?? :lol:
Juju Girl, [23.09.21 23:22]
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I just talked to Doug Logan via phone. The leaked draft is simply a draft and is only a partial report. Tomorrow's hearing will render findings of great consequence. Then he said "God is in control". Please pray for our audit team tomorrow as they present their findings.Folded handsFolded handsFolded hands
Yes Wendy, God is in control. And He chose Joe Biden.

How pathetic is this? :lol:
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Twas the night before Maricopa when all through the house,

Not a BOS Was stirring not even the rat

The reports were completed by the ninjas with care

In hopes that decertification would soon be there

The Bidens were nestled all snug in their beds

While visions of Obama danced in their heads

And he whistled and shouted and called them by name .

Now! Jovan, Now! Logan , Now Cotton and Shiva

On! Harris, On! Solomon, On! Pitton and team

To the top of the fraud ! To the top of it all .

Now expose away! Expose away! Expose away all !

Happy Maricopa audit to all, and to all a good night

(I will post rest as soon as I finish . Lol ). Need some help with missing verses . Lol
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And this was vital to post in the AZAudit channel. It's as true as the fraudit, so there's that...


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Wendy got herself some ink electrons. This decertification grift has got to be among the most delusional of all.

AZ Sen. Wendy Rogers Indicates the Next Steps after the ‘Dramatic’, ‘Truthful’ Audit Report Is Released
Wendy Rogers
POSTED BY: JAMES NICHOLAS SEPTEMBER 23, 2021

“We expect it to be dramatic. It will be truthful,” Arizona state Senator Wendy Rogers (R) asserted while discussing the Maricopa County final audit report that is expected to be released to the public on Friday. “If criminal wrongdoing is found, then it will be referred to the Arizona Attorney General,” Sen. Rogers proclaimed in an interview with Ivory Hecker.

Appearing confident that the audit results, combined with the latest bombshell findings from an independent canvass will expose a large degree of corruption, Sen. Rogers suggested the next critical step will be for Arizona’s Republican lawmakers to unite in calling for the state’s electors to be decertified. “In January, every state turned in a certification of electors to the federal government. I, since July when the interim report came out from the Arizona audit, called to decertify what Arizona turned in in January. And now, I call on my colleagues, especially Friday after the full report comes out, to also join me to decertify.”

After mentioning the slim one-vote Republican majority in both the House and Senate in Arizona, Sen. Rogers said it will be “the order of the day for my fellow Republicans to join me to call to decertify. That’s the next step that needs to be taken.” She continued: “And these other states that are pivotal — Georgia, for example, and Pennsylvania — they also need to dig down, determine and decertify their electors and then we take the next step. So, one day at a time, step by step. What will the outcome be? I don’t know… We need to take one day at a time and seek the truth.”

“And then the other component is to pass legislation at every state legislature to fix the corruption and the procedures in election law and the mechanisms so that in 2022, we don’t have this happen again,” Rogers declared. Video Below
Video at link: https://www.thefreedomtimes.com/2021/09 ... -released/

Meanwhile, in the reality based world, Washington Post, OMG:

Draft report of GOP-backed ballot review in Arizona confirms Biden’s win
By Rosalind S. Helderman Today at 12:18 a.m. EDT

A Republican-commissioned review of nearly 2.1 million ballots cast last year in Arizona confirmed the accuracy of the official results and President Biden’s win in Maricopa County, according to a draft report prepared by private contractors who conducted the recount. The draft was obtained by The Washington Post late Thursday night in advance of a planned public release of a final version on Friday. The ultimate findings will cap a costly and drawn-out recount launched by the GOP-led Arizona Senate that had been championed by former president Donald Trump and kept alive false claims that fraud tainted the election in the state’s most populous county. The process was pilloried by election experts who warned that the methods used by the firm hired to run the review were sloppy and biased.

After nearly six months and almost $6 million — most of it given by groups that cast doubt on the election results — the draft report shows that the review concluded that 45,469 more ballots were cast for Biden in Maricopa County than for Trump, widening Biden’s margin by 360 more votes than certified results. The draft report found the count to have “no substantial differences” from the county’s certified tallies. If included in the final report, that finding would puncture unsubstantiated claims made by Trump and his allies that vote tabulating machines had miscounted paper ballots or been hacked to flip thousands of Trump votes to Biden. The draft report sought to undercut that conclusion by suggesting that some ballots could have been improperly accepted and counted by the county. But the document includes key notes of caution, saying only that further investigation is warranted. The report could still go through additional revisions before its public release, scheduled for Friday afternoon. The draft was provided to The Post by the Arizona secretary of state’s office, which had obtained a copy.

Randy Pullen, a spokesman for the ballot review, told an NPR affiliate in Phoenix that the draft version was “close” to the final report. He added, “Was there massive fraud or anything? It doesn’t look like it.” Later, in a text message to The Post, he cautioned there will be “updates in the final report.” Biden’s win in Maricopa County, home to Phoenix, helped him earn a narrow victory in Arizona and become the first Democrat to win the state since 1996. The state’s results were upheld by state and federal courts. The state Senate’s ballot review began in April over the objections of the Republican-led county leadership. Lawmakers used a subpoena to obtain Maricopa County’s ballots and tabulating machines, which were handed over to private contractors for review. State Senate President Karen Fann (R), who has led the effort, has said publicly that the goal is not to revisit Biden’s win but instead to look for ways to improve the state’s election laws. But Trump has repeatedly said he believes the investigation will vindicate his allegations about the election and show he was in fact the victor. On Thursday night, apparently unaware of the findings of the draft report, the former president said in a statement, “Everybody will be watching Arizona tomorrow to see what the highly respected auditors and Arizona State Senate found out regarding the so-called Election!”

The Florida-based firm that led the review, Cyber Ninjas, had never before been involved in administering an election or recount, and its chief executive, Doug Logan, publicly embraced Trump’s false claims of fraud before getting the job. After his firm was selected to conduct the review, Logan did not deny his potential bias but said that it is “the most skeptical person” who makes the best auditor, “not the person who thinks it is impossible to find anything.” Election experts criticized the process as opaque, insecure and frequently changing, and said the recount followed few best practices established over decades for conducting unbiased and accurate election audits. In May, all of Maricopa’s seven elected officials — including five Republicans — joined to demand the Senate put an end to the review, calling it a “con” and a “sham.” “Our democracy is imperiled,” they wrote in a letter to Fann. The Justice Department also warned in the spring that the recount risked violating federal law, which requires that ballots be securely maintained for 22 months following a federal election.

After the leak of the draft report late Thursday, Maricopa County Board of Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers (R) said in a statement that the findings mean “the tabulation equipment counted the ballots as they were designed to do, and the results reflect the will of the voters. That should be the end of the story. Everything else is just noise.” He added: “Board members told the truth in the face of angry phone calls and emails fueled by a coordinated campaign to shake Americans’ faith in the power of their vote. Will they accept the truth now?” A spokesman for Fann did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Trump allies tried to play down the conclusion in the draft report. GOP state Sen. Wendy Rogers wrote in a post on Twitter that she had just spoken to Logan by phone, who told her that the early version of the report that leaked was “simply a draft and is only a partial report.” “Tomorrow’s hearing will render findings of great consequence,” wrote Rogers, who has been calling for Biden’s win to be decertified. “Then he said ‘God is in control’. Please pray for our audit team tomorrow as they present their findings.”

Election experts said the Arizona experience should serve as a warning sign to other Republican legislators who have in recent weeks responded to pressure from Trump and agreed to embark on their own reviews of the 2020 election, including in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Texas. “Every time Trump and his supporters have been given a forum to make their case, they have swung and missed,” said Ben Ginsberg, a Republican election lawyer who has been critical of Trump’s false claims of fraud. He spoke to reporters in a call organized by the Center for Election Innovation & Research Thursday before the draft leaked. “If Trump and his supporters can’t prove it here — with the process they’ve designed — then they can’t prove it anywhere,” Ginsberg said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html





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