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Maybenaut wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:57 pm Those creases at the shoulders and elbows are the result of his petulance. He sits there with his arms folded across his chest when he pouts.
I remember being taught in the Army to never ever cross your arms across your uniform. To this day, I don't.
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Gregg wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:30 pm
Maybenaut wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:57 pm Those creases at the shoulders and elbows are the result of his petulance. He sits there with his arms folded across his chest when he pouts.
I remember being taught in the Army to never ever cross your arms across your uniform. To this day, I don't.
Yeah, but DFO seriously and repeatedly avoided the army, so he wasn’t able to learn that. Sad. :boxing:
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Even sadder is the fact that the things Trump never learned are legion.
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I learned long ago not to wear my belt above my navel. That just screams "geezer".
Out from under. :thumbsup:
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Foggy wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:43 am I learned long ago not to wear my belt above my navel. That just screams "geezer".
My mind immediately goes to Ed Grimley.
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Foggy wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:43 am I learned long ago not to wear my belt above my navel. That just screams "geezer".
I would have to get bigger pants (again?). Not doing it.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/1 ... ers-494559
‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry

The former president insists he has offers from two of the “most prestigious publishing houses.” None of the major five said they extended one.
He's been writing like crazy, all right. Only no self-respecting publisher wants to touch that fact-check nightmare.
t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”
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Trump Pressed Official to Wield Justice Dept. to Back Election Claims
The former president began pressuring his incoming acting attorney general even before announcing that his predecessor was stepping down, emails show.

By Katie Benner
June 15, 2021 Updated 8:02 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON — An hour before President Donald J. Trump announced in December that William P. Barr would step down as attorney general, the president began pressuring Mr. Barr’s eventual replacement to have the Justice Department take up his false claims of election fraud.

Mr. Trump sent an email via his assistant to Jeffrey A. Rosen, the incoming acting attorney general, that contained documents purporting to show evidence of election fraud in northern Michigan — the same claims that a federal judge had thrown out a week earlier in a lawsuit filed by one of Mr. Trump’s personal lawyers.

Another email from Mr. Trump to Mr. Rosen followed two weeks later, again via the president’s assistant, that included a draft of a brief that Mr. Trump wanted the Justice Department to file to the Supreme Court. It argued, among other things, that state officials had used the pandemic to weaken election security and pave the way for widespread election fraud.

The draft echoed claims in a lawsuit in Texas by the Trump-allied state attorney general that the justices had thrown out, and a lawyer who had helped on that effort later tried with increasing urgency to track down Mr. Rosen at the Justice Department, saying he had been dispatched by Mr. Trump to speak with him.

The emails, turned over by the Justice Department to investigators on the House Oversight Committee and obtained by The New York Times, show how Mr. Trump pressured Mr. Rosen to put the power of the Justice Department behind lawsuits that had already failed to try to prove his false claims that extensive voter fraud had affected the election results.

They are also the latest example of Mr. Trump’s frenzied drive to subvert the election results in the final weeks of his presidency, including ratcheting up pressure on the Justice Department. And they show that Mr. Trump flouted an established anticorruption norm that the Justice Department acts independently of the White House on criminal investigations or law enforcement actions, a gap that steadily eroded during Mr. Trump’s term.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/15/us/p ... ction.html
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:06 am https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/1 ... ers-494559
‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry

The former president insists he has offers from two of the “most prestigious publishing houses.” None of the major five said they extended one.
He's been writing like crazy, all right. Only no self-respecting publisher wants to touch that fact-check nightmare.
t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”

*GASP!* You mean Trump made it all up???

I find that hard to believe.

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I like some of the crazy bullshit they were trying to push as explained in this NPR article that mirrors the times article:

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/15/10065705 ... um=twitter
Meadows emailed Rosen a translation of a document that alleged there was a plot in which U.S. election data was altered in Italian facilities and loaded onto "military satellites" and that Trump was "clearly the winner."

After he sent Rosen a YouTube link on Jan. 1 detailing the conspiracy theory, Rosen forwarded the email to then-acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, who replied: "Pure insanity."

The cache of documents reveal that Meadows emailed Rosen multiple times to share unverified allegations of election fraud or ask him to take steps to change the election results.
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:rolleye: :rolleye: :rolleye:

Guess Rosen needs to be added to the subpoena list.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:06 am https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/1 ... ers-494559
‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry

The former president insists he has offers from two of the “most prestigious publishing houses.” None of the major five said they extended one.
He's been writing like crazy, all right. Only no self-respecting publisher wants to touch that fact-check nightmare.
t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”
Would Amazon Kindle touch this with a 10 foot pole?
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Good question. Maybe Portia knows?
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Didn't Junior self publish? W TFG follow suit?
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covfefe wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:56 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:06 am https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/1 ... ers-494559
‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry

The former president insists he has offers from two of the “most prestigious publishing houses.” None of the major five said they extended one.
He's been writing like crazy, all right. Only no self-respecting publisher wants to touch that fact-check nightmare.
t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”

*GASP!* You mean Trump made it all up???

I find that hard to believe.

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Who would he get to ghost-write it for him? I suppose that there are some hack writers who would be willing to listen to his lies and turn them into coherent sentences in return for a hefty fee. He certainly can't write it himself. Besides being beneath him, the man is functionally illiterate.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:06 am https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/1 ... ers-494559
‘He’s screwed over so many publishers’: Trump confronts a skeptical book industry

The former president insists he has offers from two of the “most prestigious publishing houses.” None of the major five said they extended one.
He's been writing like crazy, all right. Only no self-respecting publisher wants to touch that fact-check nightmare.
t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually,” said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. “That would be the problem. If he can’t even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?”


There would also be the title problem. Who really truly wants to publish a book that could only accurately be titled Whine Kampf?
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Whine Kampf.

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zekeb wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:40 am
Would Amazon Kindle touch this with a 10 foot pole?
Kindle--or KDP as it is now known, including both ebooks and print-on-demand print books--is a self-publishing platform. Fully automated. They don't read anyone's book, they don't edit it, they just produce it. It would be unusual for them to bar anyone from publishing, however many lies they told or countries they ruined.

Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
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Dr. Ken wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:02 am I like some of the crazy bullshit they were trying to push as explained in this NPR article that mirrors the times article:

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/15/10065705 ... um=twitter
Meadows emailed Rosen a translation of a document that alleged there was a plot in which U.S. election data was altered in Italian facilities and loaded onto "military satellites" and that Trump was "clearly the winner."

After he sent Rosen a YouTube link on Jan. 1 detailing the conspiracy theory, Rosen forwarded the email to then-acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue, who replied: "Pure insanity."

The cache of documents reveal that Meadows emailed Rosen multiple times to share unverified allegations of election fraud or ask him to take steps to change the election results.
This experience with Trump trying to steal the election is absolute proof that we need to make sure that elections NEVER come under the control of the federal government. It's bad enough that we have several states passing laws that allow the state legislature to step in and take over a local election if the legislature doesn't like the outcome. Just think what would have happened if the federal government had jurisdiction over all elections in 2020. The former guy would be president forever.
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p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:46 pm
zekeb wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:40 am
Would Amazon Kindle touch this with a 10 foot pole?
Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
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When the Kochs (for example) order a million books to put it on the best seller list, do the books actually get printed? Or do they just accept whatever has been printed and they take the rest "later"? Although I will be saddened but not surprised when the book has millions of genuine sales. The grift must flow.
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p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:46 pm Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
Trump has to have a hardcover book that everybody can see in bookstore windows (if they can find one). Digital online and the ability to not have others buy him into the bestseller list is treason. Everything about him has to be visual and tactile.

There's always WND Book. Looks like poor Farah has not published a new book since 2017.
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northland10 wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:22 pm
p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:46 pm Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
Trump has to have a hardcover book that everybody can see in bookstore windows (if they can find one). Digital online and the ability to not have others buy him into the bestseller list is treason. Everything about him has to be visual and tactile.

There's always WND Book. Looks like poor Farah has not published a new book since 2017.
Just to note that KDP does hardcover. The rest, agreed.
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PaulG wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:03 pm
p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:46 pm
zekeb wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:40 am
Would Amazon Kindle touch this with a 10 foot pole?
Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
Off Topic
When the Kochs (for example) order a million books to put it on the best seller list, do the books actually get printed? Or do they just accept whatever has been printed and they take the rest "later"? Although I will be saddened but not surprised when the book has millions of genuine sales. The grift must flow.
Yes, if they order the books, they will be printed and delivered.
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p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:44 pm
PaulG wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:03 pm
p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:46 pm

Too also, KDP is way too non-traditional for a book destined to be a best seller once the Kochs and Mercer's have bought a million copies of it. Print on demand means one book at a time is printed--it's a poor model for money making.

There are certainly publishers out there who would publish his shit: publishers who specialize in right-wing shit. Just not the big trade publishers. I'm sure the fear of getting sued into oblivion is also a deterrent. Maybe OANN can start up a publishing department. They'd be perfect.
Off Topic
When the Kochs (for example) order a million books to put it on the best seller list, do the books actually get printed? Or do they just accept whatever has been printed and they take the rest "later"? Although I will be saddened but not surprised when the book has millions of genuine sales. The grift must flow.
Yes, if they order the books, they will be printed and delivered.
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