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Rudy's neighbor Michele Herbert
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Suranis wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:14 pm I am totally ashamed :oopsy: :cry:
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https://time.com/6020207/rudy-giuliani- ... witnesses/
By the time federal investigators searched the Manhattan home of Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday, they had amassed a trove of evidence from his associates in Ukraine, focusing most intently on Giuliani’s ties to Ukrainian oligarchs, three witnesses in the case told TIME.

The witnesses, who spoke on condition of anonymity, described lengthy interviews with investigators in Europe, Manhattan and Washington, starting in the fall of 2019 and continuing through February. The calls and meetings with investigators grew more frequent and “intense” after Joe Biden’s victory in last fall’s presidential election, says one of the witnesses. Two of the witnesses say they were working with Giuliani while cooperating with federal investigators.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office in Manhattan declined to comment on the case. Giuliani did not respond to a request for comment about his former associates in Ukraine assisting federal prosecutors. In a statement released Wednesday, the former Mayor of New York City and personal lawyer for President Donald Trump called the investigation against him an “unjustified and unethical attack,” and said he “can demonstrate that his conduct as a lawyer and a citizen was absolutely legal and ethical.”

The investigation of Giuliani grew out of a federal probe into two of his associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who were arrested in Oct. 2019 and charged with violating campaign finance law. Both men have denied the charges and are awaiting trial.
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The exploding irony meters were visible from Mars.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:00 pm
Maybenaut wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:50 pm
AndyinPA wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:46 pm Biden's going to leave things to the Justice Department.
I think that’s likely true. But I seem to recall him saying he wasn’t looking to prosecute Trump.
I'm sure Biden is fine with leaving Trump to the Justice Department.

That said, I am also positive that Biden wants to destroy Trump, but I'm talking politically. I'm sure Biden wants to destroy all of Trump's abhorrent policies. As much as possible, Biden wants to un-do the damage done to this country by Trump and his sycophants. It serves the dual purpose of making America stronger and pissing off Trump.
President Biden may want to destroy Trump, either politically or financially, but he (Biden) is smart enough to know that it is more important to destroy Trump-ism. If he seems too personally involved in investigating and prosecuting Trump, his family or his minions, the RWNJ's and the working class Trump supporter will see it as Biden and the Democrats practicing the same slash and burn politics that Trump does.

No, Biden must show the country that he/we are better than that. That doesn't mean giving Trump a pass. It means doing it the proper way, and laying out all the provable evidence, and not relying on midnight tweets and outright lies.

There are many on the right who will never be convinced of Trump's perfidy, but the mass of people in the middle must be shown that politics doesn't have to be a blood sport.
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Roodles is crying that the mean old Biden FBI didn't want his Hunter Biden laptop! But in his statement released by Costello, he specifically says the DOJ/FBI has had that laptop information for over a year. That means it was the TRUMP FBI under William Barr. Must be a rough day when he misses something so easily obvious. Roodles has deleted a few tweets, looks like a scramble.








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Gregg wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:14 pm
Dr. Ken wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm

The exploding irony meters were visible from Mars.

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Was surprised more wasn't made about how much Dersh has made off the GOP, this is just part of it:

Dersh was bought by the GOP. "RNC shouldered some of the legal expenses for Trump because he was the sitting president and the party leader. Those costs included a $196,000 payment to Alan Dershowitz, who served as part of Trump's defense team."

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Rudy Colludy was told 18 months ago that Russia was setting him up to accept faked kompromat to help trump win reelection and now he's is crying that the FBI won't accept the hard drive they told him contains faked kompromat?

Do I have that right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
FBI warned Giuliani, key Trump ally in Senate of Russian disinformation campaign targeting Biden
Adding the WaPo link because I can't remember if I saw it here or on twitter.
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Dr. Ken wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:11 pm Rudy's neighbor Michele Herbert
He seemed like a normal guy, very quiet and never bothered anyone. :crazy:
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I am not a fan of Chris Hayes, but this is a brilliant interview. If you want to know the truth about Rudy, watch Michael Daly (longtime NY Daily News reporter):
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I also am not a huge fan of Hayes, but his summary of Giuliani's career as a prosecutor as "a swaggering, press-hungry, santimonious, imperious US Attorney for the Southern District of New York" is spot on.

Rudy had this coming for a long time.
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MSNBC says Rudy is making some sort of statement any time now :popcorn:
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Warrant for Giuliani’s computers, phones seeks communications with over a dozen
U.S. investigators are seeking to review Rudy Giuliani's phones and computers for communications with more than a dozen people, including a high-ranking prosecutor in Ukraine, according to a warrant executed at his apartment this week.

They also are searching for communications with any U.S. government official or employee relating to Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine who was ousted by the Trump administration in 2019, the warrant says.

Agents seized more than 10 cell phones and computers from Giuliani's Manhattan apartment and office in raids on Wednesday, according to his lawyer, Bob Costello, who read the search warrant to a Reuters reporter.

According to the warrant, investigators are looking for evidence that Giuliani acted as an unregistered foreign agent, a violation of lobbying laws.

Giuliani said in a statement following the raids that his "conduct as a lawyer and a citizen was absolutely legal and ethical." A spokesman for the Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office declined to comment.

The list of the people identified in the warrant includes:

LEV PARNAS AND IGOR FRUMAN

Ukrainian-born Parnas and Belarus-born Fruman are two Florida-based businessmen who helped Giuliani dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter before the 2020 presidential election and push to remove Yovanovitch.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan have accused Parnas and Fruman of using a shell company to make an illegal $325,000 donation to a committee supporting Trump's re-election. The men have pleaded not guilty to violating campaign finance laws and other charges. A trial is scheduled for October.

A lawyer for Fruman declined to comment. A lawyer for Parnas did not respond to a request for comment.

PETRO POROSHENKO

A confectionary magnate and one of Ukraine's richest men, Poroshenko took power in 2014 and served as the country's president until 2019. At Giuliani's direction, Parnas and Fruman met Poroshenko in February 2019, while he was still in office, and pressed him to announce investigations into Hunter Biden and purported Ukrainian interference in the 2016 presidential election in exchange for a state visit, the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post reported.

Poroshenko's office told Reuters on Friday that he held two meetings with Giuliani in his capacity as President Donald Trump's "special envoy" during which they discussed Russian aggression, fighting disinformation and how to strengthen the alliance between Kyiv and Washington.

GYUNDUZ MAMEDOV

Mamedov, who currently serves as a high-ranking prosecutor in Ukraine, was a key intermediary in Giuliani's efforts to press Ukraine to open investigations that would tarnish Biden, according to NBC News.

He played a role in setting up a meeting between Giuliani and Ukrainian officials, NBC reported. A spokesperson for Mamedov had no immediate comment on investigators looking at communications with Giuliani.

VIKTOR SHOKIN

Shokin became Ukraine's general prosecutor in February 2015 and led an investigation into the energy company Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company where Biden's son Hunter was a board member from 2014 to 2019.

Shokin was removed from his job in 2016 following accusations of corruption by Western diplomats.

Giuliani told Reuters he met with Shokin over Skype in late 2018.

Shokin could not be reached for comment on Friday, according to his lawyer.

YURIY LUTSENKO

Lutsenko succeeded Shokin as general prosecutor. In 2019, Lutsenko told John Solomon, a U.S. columnist, that he had evidence related to the Bidens and Burisma. Later that year Lutsenko told Reuters he found no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Biden’s son in his relationship with the energy firm.

Giuliani told Reuters in 2019 that he met with Lutsenko twice early that year.

"I didn't correspond with Giuliani. I didn't even have his phone (number)," Lutsenko told Reuters on Friday. "We didn't communicate in any regular way."

KOSTIANTYN KULYK

Kulyk, a former Ukrainian prosecutor, also worked on the country's investigations into Burisma. Giuliani told Reuters he met with Kulyk in Paris in 2019. Kulyk did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Friday.

GLIB ZAGORIY

A Ukrainian businessman and former lawmaker, Zagoriy attended a meeting between Giuliani and Lutsenko in January 2019, according to documents released by the U.S. State Department. Zagoriy could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday.

DAVID CORREIA

Correia, another Florida businessman, pleaded guilty last year to making false statements to the Federal Election Commission, and duping investors in Fraud Guarantee, a company he founded with Parnas that paid Giuliani $500,000. A lawyer for Correia did not respond to a request for comment on Friday.

VICTORIA TOENSING AND JOE DIGENOVA

Toensing and diGenova are married Washington lawyers who helped Giuliani represent Trump in his post-election lawsuits. They represented Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash, who is fighting extradition from Vienna on U.S. bribery and racketeering charges. FBI agents raided the couple's home earlier this week and seized a cellphone used by Toensing.

Toensing and diGenova did not respond to a request for comment on Friday.

JOHN SOLOMON

Solomon worked for The Hill, a Washington newspaper and website covering Congress, when he wrote a series of pieces that Yovanovitch testified to Congress were part of a smear campaign against her that Giuliani appeared to be behind. The Hill later said Solomon failed to identify important details about key Ukrainian sources, including the fact that they had been indicted or were under investigation.

Solomon did not respond to requests for comment.
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Strange how the common thread from the Ukranians now is "Rudy, who is this Rudy of whom you speak? We know no Rudy."
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Rudy Giuliani is the clown who thought he'd get a pardon from the former guy. The former guy didn't pay him so the least he could do was pardon America's MayorTM.

Nope.
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Michael Cohen was on Velshi this morning. He said Rudy and the former guy had no long-term relationship. Rudy latched onto him after the former guy became president. Before that, they pretty much didn't know each other well and didn't like each other. If that's true, Rudy never had a prayer of a pardon, but I guess hope springs eternal. I doubt the former guy thinks he owes Rudy anything. Of course, he mostly doesn't think he owes anyone anything. He's the smartest, bestest guy in the world, you know.
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Somebody may have to break it to America's MayorTM that the former guy can no longer pardon him.
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sterngard friegen wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 9:30 pm Somebody may have to break it to America's MayorTM that the former guy can no longer pardon him.
Wait, whaaaat? I thought the Ciberninga dudes were going to prove fraud and re-install Trump to his proper title as President. :smoking: That's not happening? :?
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Any chance Rudy received a secret pardon or pre-emptive pardon?
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LM K wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 10:00 pm Any chance Rudy received a secret pardon or pre-emptive pardon?
And if Rudy did receive such a pardon, is there any chance that the courts would hold the pardon to be lawful?
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much ado wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 10:16 pm
LM K wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 10:00 pm Any chance Rudy received a secret pardon or pre-emptive pardon?
And if Rudy did receive such a pardon, is there any chance that the courts would hold the pardon to be lawful?
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