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The number of Covid-19 patients in TX hospitals today is the 3rd highest since the epidemic began. An article in today's Houston Chronicle told of continued difficulties in getting PPE. For PPE Texas remains heavily dependent on China.
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Our casinos reopened Monday. First reported positive case of an employee today.

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Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:31 pm
Our casinos reopened Monday. First reported positive case of an employee today.
Our local casino opened Friday. By Sunday night, the State Health Department was putting out an urgent message that someone positive with COVID had been there from 2-5 that day. Then he went about 45 minutes away and went to a bar and grille for dinner and then to a local bar.

I was talking to a NP at the local clinic and theorized that since that was a quick time period and over a weekend, the person might have already tested positive and went out for a "last hurrah." She confirmed that was correct, and the clinic has now been mobbed by patrons who were at the casino, asking for tests.

You won't find us at a casino (or restaurant) for a very, very long time.
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Took our first Uber rides in 2 months this week. Had to wait 15 minutes each time. (In the Before Times it was 5 minutes.) We chatted with one for a while. He says that total demand is down, but most drivers have stopped driving so each remaining driver has as much business as they want. He’s making his best money ever. As things open, it’s getting busier but drivers aren’t coming back as fast.

Many drivers are part-time and getting unemployment plus from their regular jobs, so no need to drive. Some are retired and don’t want to risk getting the virus. This guy was a full-time driver, young and indestructible, and Very happy.
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I was wondering how Uber drivers were faring tonight. Uber sent me an email today, supporting BLM, donating to the Equal Justice Initiative and Center for Policing Equity, and "Uber Eats to promote Black-owned restaurants while making it easier for you to support them, with no delivery fees for the remainder of the year. And in the coming weeks, we will offer discounted rides to Black-owned small businesses, who have been hit hard by COVID-19, to help in their recovery."

"We do not tolerate discrimination, harrassment or racism on our platform, as outlined in our Community Guidelines. We will hold everyone who uses Uber accountable to these standards of basic respect and human decency."

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We go to green today. I'm looking forward to going out to a restaurant, but would only do so at a place at an off time. There has been no noticeable uptick in cases here since we went to yellow several weeks ago. I hope it stays that way. There are still lots of rules in place, and the governor has said he won't hesitate to put us back into a different stage if things don't go well. Masks are still required, and the few times I've been out I've seen anywhere from 98-100 percent compliance. I hope that holds.
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Update to the casino story. Received an email yesterday where they announced they were giving free drive through tests to anyone, no doctor note required, results would be given through the State Health Department. So I guess this is what's going to happen with re-opening: since our business exposed customers to COVID, free tests!

I guess that's better than "you're on your own" but nah. Just nah.
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:roll:

Texas anti-vaxxers say COVID-19 contact tracing is government surveillance

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/h ... =headlines
The Texas group that lobbies against vaccine mandates is now launching a campaign against COVID-19 contact tracing, the public health measure used for decades around the world to contain disease spread.

Texans for Vaccine Choice this week called on its members to contact Gov. Greg Abbott and let him know they “do not wish to be monitored or surveilled for any reason” in response to a new state program hiring and training workers to identify people who’ve come into close contact with those who recently tested positive for the novel coronavirus. Such people are then asked to quarantine until testing shows they don’t have the disease.

“The government should stop thinking its job is to keep everyone healthy and instead focus on protecting our rights,” says a post on the organization’s website. “We here at TFVC will remain vigilant as our government expands greatly and the threats to our members grow.”

The campaign drew an immediate rebuke from Dr. Peter Hotez, the Baylor College of Medicine infectious disease specialist who has led public health’s fight against the anti-vaccine movement, which he holds responsible for the resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles and whooping cough.
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“The government should stop thinking its job is to keep everyone healthy ALIVEand instead focus on protecting our rights,” says a post on the organization’s website.
FIFT.

Is this sentiment any different than the people who promote their Second Amendment rights over the rights of others to live?
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Texas hospitalizations almost up to previous high. :(
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Houston Texas Medical Center's trends started getting worse about the time of the Phase 2 reopening.
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“We’ve seen a more rapid increase.” These charts show increasing numbers on TMC #COVID hospitalizations and ICU beds. Doctors say we're in the "warning" zone. Which means.. NOW is the time, more than ever, to keep your guard up. Wash hands, wear masks, keep your distance.
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We had a hunch this would happen. So we escaped, at some risk, but one week out we are fine!
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Volkonski wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:56 pm
Houston Texas Medical Center's trends started getting worse about the time of the Phase 2 reopening.
Janelle Bludau
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“We’ve seen a more rapid increase.” These charts show increasing numbers on TMC #COVID hospitalizations and ICU beds. Doctors say we're in the "warning" zone. Which means.. NOW is the time, more than ever, to keep your guard up. Wash hands, wear masks, keep your distance.
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Looking at the upper graph it seems that the increase starts nicely with the wellknown incubation delay of 14 days after the first opening. Would mean that the chart crashes the skies exponentially in the coming days

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Number of COVID-19 hospitalizations up 30 percent this week in Texas Medical Center, Methodist CEO says
Doctors suspect they're seeing the result of crowds without masks ignoring social distancing practices on Memorial Day Weekend.


https://www.khou.com/article/news/healt ... 56edc1faa0
For the past week, the number of people hospitalized with Coronavirus has been increasing about 30 percent across the Texas Medical Center.

“Over the last few days, we’ve seen a more rapid increase," President & CEO of Houston Methodist Dr. Marc Boom said.

Boom says we’re in the warning zone, and the most likely reason is Memorial Day.

“We saw lots of those pictures and images of people packed together, not being careful, so I think we’re paying the price for that a little bit right now," Boom said.
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TexasFilly wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:39 am
“The government should stop thinking its job is to keep everyone healthy ALIVEand instead focus on protecting our rights,” says a post on the organization’s website.
FIFT.

Is this sentiment any different than the people who promote their Second Amendment rights over the rights of others to live?
I am attempting to avoid using a whole load of bad language over that group's statement. By their reasoning, I should be able to walk out onto the street and just open up with an automatic rifle in all directions. If people are injured or killed, well that's too bad because of my rights.
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CDC director says protesters should consider getting tested for coronavirus

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June 5, 2020 at 1:00 a.m. GMT+2

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told a House panel Thursday that demonstrators protesting racial injustice need to get tested for the coronavirus and that crowds at a Missouri tourist hot spot and the SpaceX launch showed that public health messages on masks and social distancing are not resonating with the public.

Referring to mass protests against police violence that have taken place throughout the country, CDC Director Robert R. Redfield said demonstrators in regions that have not yet controlled the outbreak should “highly consider” getting tested. He noted that Minneapolis and the District are two metropolitan areas where significant transmission of the virus is still taking place. The protests were sparked by the death of George Floyd, a Minneapolis man whose neck was pinned to the ground by a police officer.

“I do think there is a potential, unfortunately, for this to be a seeding event,” Redfield said. “And the way to minimize it is to have each individual to recognize it’s to the advantage of them to protect their loved ones, to [say]: ‘Hey, I was out. I need to go get tested.’ You know, in three, five, seven days, go get tested. Make sure you’re not infected.”

Redfield was testifying at a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing on his agency’s response to covid-19, the disease caused by the novel virus. Health experts are concerned about any large gatherings in a close space that can make it easier to spread the coronavirus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... d-covid-19
Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) said he was concerned the use of chemical agents, which law enforcement officials have deployed against protesters in several cities, including the District, could cause people to cough and spread the virus.

“Definitely, coughing can spread respiratory viruses, including covid-19,” Redfield said.

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Students in masks? Sick kids staying home? Teachers aren’t convinced plans will keep them safe.

Perry Stein and Joe Heim
June 5, 2020 at 3:52 p.m. GMT+2

Christian Herr is only 35, but he has been on medication ever since he suffered a heart attack in his classroom nine years ago. His cardiologist is clear: Herr’s condition puts him at risk of dangerous complications if he contracts the novel coronavirus.

So two months after his school closed, and with next school year on the horizon, Herr, a sixth-grade science teacher in the District, wonders: Can he go back when classrooms reopen? Will he be safe? How will he know?

School districts across the country are sharing rough drafts of what the fall could look like. They are under increasing pressure, from parents and politicians, for those plans to include at least some in-person learning.

But teachers, especially ones who are older or medically compromised, worry those plans do to little to protect them.

The plans are also just unrealistic, teachers say. They can’t envision students maintaining social distance, keeping masks on, or walking in the same directions in hallways, all things health officials are recommending. Even before the pandemic, teachers said, their schools struggled to keep ample soap and water running in the bathrooms.


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Newsweek: Florida Sets New Single-Day Record for Coronavirus Cases Since Reopening Economy, Over 4,000 in Three Days

On Friday, Florida's Department of Health reported a new single day record for coronavirus cases since the state began reopening.

According to the department, there were at least 1,495 new cases reported as of Friday, which brings Florida's total number to over 61,000. There were also at least 53 new deaths reported, increasing the state's total number to at least 2,660.

The number of cases reported on Friday marked a new single-day high number of cases since Florida implemented phase one of its reopening plan on May 18. The previous single-day high was on April 17, when the department reported at least 1,416 new cases.

In addition to hitting a single-day record, Florida has also seen a spike in the number of cases over the past three days. According to the state's department of health, there have been at least 4,231 new cases in the past three days, with 1,317 on Wednesday; 1,419 on Thursday; and now 1,495 on Friday.

Across Florida, a majority of the cases have stemmed from Miami-Dade County, Palm Beach County and Broward County. According to the health department, there are currently at least 19,056 cases in Miami-Dade; 7,572 in Broward; and 6,859 in Palm Beach.
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Also CA and TX.
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The Guardian: Teargas and pepper spray will accelerate spread of Covid-19, doctors warn

Doctors, nurses and disease experts have warned that dousing crowds with teargas and pepper spray will accelerate the spread of coronavirus as mass demonstrations against police brutality rage on, raising concerns that police tactics could worsen a pandemic that has already taken a disproportionate toll on black and brown Americans.

Nearly 1,300 medical providers and public health experts have signed a petition this week calling for police to stop using the chemical agents, amid scenes of law enforcement officers launching plumes of chemical irritants and smoke to subdue demonstrators in Minneapolis, Philadelphia, New York and many other American cities.

Because coronavirus spreads through droplets of mucus and spit that people launch into the air when they cough, sneeze, breathe and talk, teargas and other irritants that cause people to choke, hack and rip off their face masks will help the virus proliferate, according to Dr Peter Chin-Hong, an infectious disease physician who helped draft the petition.

Gas and pepper sprays also cause tears, saliva and mucus to stream from demonstrators’ eyes and noses, said Chin-Hong. “And it’ll cause people to shout and scream, propelling droplets of these fluids – which could be carrying coronavirus – and giving them superpowers, to spread much farther than six feet.”
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It might seem minor, but after a few weeks of zero to 3 cases daily, for the past two days it was 9 cases each day on Oahu.

Still no real plan for mainland flights, but the inter-island quarantine ends on 6/16. I'm on a flight to Oahu 6/19. Not nervous about it, except I hope I don't suddenly have a fever and get barred from returning.

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BLM protests will be blamed for rising rates of the disease, but many states reopened while their caseload was increasing, and still is.
With states beginning to allow varying degrees of economic reopening, large protests against police brutality being held in dozens of cities and warmer weather inviting people outside, forecasters tracking the Covid-19 pandemic in the United States are approaching a difficult juncture.

While the portrait of the country overall has improved significantly in recent weeks, epidemiologists have cautioned that different states are likely to experience very different challenges now in measuring and controlling the virus’s spread.

According to data compiled by The New York Times, more than a third of states are still seeing new infections increasing. But as many of them move ahead with reopening plans, their outcomes may depend on factors like how stressed their health care systems have been and how far they are along the curve.
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Getting worse. :(
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CBS3 Philly: 11 New Coronavirus Cases In Pennsylvania Linked To Jersey Shore Beach House Gatherings

DOYLESTOWN, Pa. (CBS) — Bucks County health officials say 11 new coronavirus cases have been traced to Jersey Shore gatherings. Officials say one-third of the 33 COVID-19 cases reported Saturday came in contact with a New Jersey resident who attended multiple beach house gatherings in the past two weeks.

Officials say there will likely be an increase in cases among the family members of the new infections but did not release the dates or the locations of the shore gatherings.

“This is exactly why we can’t let our guard down now, even if it feels ‘safe’ to be at the beach. One unlucky exposure can lead to a large cascade of cases down the line. We want everyone to enjoy the warmer weather and have fun, but let’s keep in mind that COVID is still circulating in the community at baseline levels,” Dr. David Damsker, director of the Bucks County Health Department, said.

Southeastern Pennsylvania moved into the “yellow” phase of the state’s reopening plan on Friday.
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WaPo: Shutdowns prevented 60 million coronavirus infections in the U.S., study finds

Shutdown orders prevented about 60 million novel coronavirus infections in the United States and 285 million in China, according to a research study published Monday that examined how stay-at-home orders and other restrictions limited the spread of the contagion.

A separate study from epidemiologists at Imperial College London estimated the shutdowns saved about 3.1 million lives in 11 European countries, including 500,000 in the United Kingdom, and dropped infection rates by an average of 82 percent, sufficient to drive the contagion well below epidemic levels.

The two reports, published Monday in the journal Nature, provide fresh evidence that aggressive and unprecedented shutdowns, which caused massive economic disruptions and job losses, were necessary to halt the exponential spread of the novel coronavirus.

But the overwhelming majority of people remain susceptible to the virus. Only about 3 percent to 4 percent of people in the countries being studied have been infected to date, said Samir Bhatt, senior author of the Imperial College London study.

“This is just the beginning of the epidemic: we’re very far from herd immunity,” Bhatt said Monday in an email. “The risk of a second wave happening if all interventions and precautions are abandoned is very real.”
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