9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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Time to impeach Donald?

Yes
35
85%
No
0
No votes
Not Yet
2
5%
Other
4
10%
 
Total votes: 41

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9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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Now with the Ukraine matter, 7 new national security experienced Congresspeople have joined the group looking to Impeachment as the remedy for Donald's actions. Speaker Pelosi has a private meeting tomorrow. Is this the time? Do Fogbowzers think it's time to impeach?
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Seven freshman Democrats: These allegations are a threat to all we have sworn to protect
By Gil Cisneros, Jason Crow, Chrissy Houlahan, Elaine Luria, Mikie Sherrill, Elissa Slotkin and Abigail Spanberger
September 23, 2019 at 9:00 p.m. EDT

Reps. Gil Cisneros of California, Jason Crow of Colorado, Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Elaine Luria of Virginia, Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey, Elissa Slotkin of Michigan and Abigail Spanberger of Virginia are all freshman Democrats.

Our lives have been defined by national service. We are not career politicians. We are veterans of the military and of the nation’s defense and intelligence agencies. Our service is rooted in the defense of our country on the front lines of national security.

We have devoted our lives to the service and security of our country, and throughout our careers, we have sworn oaths to defend the Constitution of the United States many times over. Now, we join as a unified group to uphold that oath as we enter uncharted waters and face unprecedented allegations against President Trump.

The president of the United States may have used his position to pressure a foreign country into investigating a political opponent, and he sought to use U.S. taxpayer dollars as leverage to do it. He allegedly sought to use the very security assistance dollars appropriated by Congress to create stability in the world, to help root out corruption and to protect our national security interests, for his own personal gain. These allegations are stunning, both in the national security threat they pose and the potential corruption they represent. We also know that on Sept. 9, the inspector general for the intelligence community notified Congress of a “credible” and “urgent” whistleblower complaint related to national security and potentially involving these allegations. Despite federal law requiring the disclosure of this complaint to Congress, the administration has blocked its release to Congress.

This flagrant disregard for the law cannot stand. To uphold and defend our Constitution, Congress must determine whether the president was indeed willing to use his power and withhold security assistance funds to persuade a foreign country to assist him in an upcoming election.

If these allegations are true, we believe these actions represent an impeachable offense. We do not arrive at this conclusion lightly, and we call on our colleagues in Congress to consider the use of all congressional authorities available to us, including the power of “inherent contempt” and impeachment hearings, to address these new allegations, find the truth and protect our national security.

As members of Congress, we have prioritized delivering for our constituents — remaining steadfast in our focus on health care, infrastructure, economic policy and our communities’ priorities. Yet everything we do harks back to our oaths to defend the country. These new allegations are a threat to all we have sworn to protect. We must preserve the checks and balances envisioned by the Founders and restore the trust of the American people in our government. And that is what we intend to do.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... n-protect/
Trump ordered hold on military aid days before calling Ukrainian president, officials say
President Trump told acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, center, to delay military aid to Ukraine this summer, administration officials
By Karoun Demirjian, Josh Dawsey, Ellen Nakashima and Carol D. Leonnig
September 23, 2019 at 10:40 p.m. EDT

President Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate the son of former vice president Joe Biden, according to three senior administration officials.

Officials at the Office of Management and Budget relayed Trump’s order to the State Department and the Pentagon during an interagency meeting in mid-July, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. They explained that the president had “concerns” and wanted to analyze whether the money needed to be spent.

Administration officials were instructed to tell lawmakers that the delays were part of an “interagency process” but to give them no additional information — a pattern that continued for nearly two months, until the White House released the funds on the night of Sept. 11.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
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Re: 9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
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Re: 9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 am
I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
Yes. Impeachment is long overdue.

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Clairez wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:40 am
TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 am
I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
Yes. Impeachment is long overdue.
I don't know. Until now, it has been about obstruction of justice and stuff that happened before he took office. Now is different. It happened while he was in office and is, more or less, the same damn thing. He isn't just a criminal, he's a recidivist. Two weeks ago, we didn't know that.

If Nancy's strategy was to wait and give Donald enough rope to hang himself, then it has worked beautifully and she should take credit, and drop the hammer on him. If she was just being gutless, she should say that was her plan, take credit, and drop the hammer on him.

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TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 am
I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
Me too. It is way past time to impeach ol' pink eyes.

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TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 am
I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
This is how I feel too, but I thought the reason to delay was that it will go nowhere in the Senate? Lots of grandstanding and cries of "Poor Donald". What has changed?

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I vote yes because

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I voted yes because it will be in the press daily until the election.
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Re: 9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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Are any of those freshmen in vulnerable seats next year. Thats the real test.

I dont know, honestly. A failed impeachment will be extraordinarily dangerous, and Nancy can count votes. If Vulnerable Dems are going for yes, she will jump.
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Re: 9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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I chose "other" because there wasn't an option for "What the fuck have you been waiting for, you gutless thumb-suckers?"
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I'd change it to that Vox but it would reset the poll :P
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Re: 9-23-19 Poll: Is It Time To Impeach Donald?

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Dan1100 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:54 am
Clairez wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:40 am
TexasFilly wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:37 am
I voted "other" as this should've happened early this year.
Yes. Impeachment is long overdue.
I don't know. Until now, it has been about obstruction of justice and stuff that happened before he took office. Now is different. It happened while he was in office and is, more or less, the same damn thing. He isn't just a criminal, he's a recidivist. Two weeks ago, we didn't know that.

If Nancy's strategy was to wait and give Donald enough rope to hang himself, then it has worked beautifully and she should take credit, and drop the hammer on him. If she was just being gutless, she should say that was her plan, take credit, and drop the hammer on him.
Actually, the obstruction of justice all happened while he sat in the Oval Office.

I agree with your last paragraph.
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